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  1. The Guard gets one T-38 transition per year. If you didn’t fly T-38s in UPT and get hired by a fighter unit, that means you won the lottery and the T-38 slot is likely yours. Requires lots of precoord with NGB, but can be done.
  2. Huh? I’ve heard this misnomer a number of times. Who has to pay for what? If you get hired by a fighter unit and are not qualified in their jet, that means they like you and are willing to request/use a IQ/TX resource to get you qualified. There is no “pay for you.” The only “pay” is the use of an allocated IQ/TX resource that the unit projected they would need in the previous 1 or 2 FYs. Sometimes the Guard gets more resources that they need, sometimes not enough. Timing is everything and there is no justice. But, no. A unit doesn’t “pay” to send someone to IQ/TX training. Although, it does pay to be nice to CR.
  3. WTF is this scroll? I jumped to the Guard 8 years ago and all my AD commanders warned me about getting “scrolled.” Is it like the “9th hole at 9?” Nobody, FSS, recruiting, nobody on my base knows what “the scroll” is. Please educate me.
  4. No factor. Be ready to talk about the lessons you learned from the experience (we all suffer setbacks, it’s important to get back up and keep working towards your goals, empathy to people going through difficult times, etc.). It’s not about your flying performance, it’s about how you handled the aftermath. If you’re doing well in your current jet, you’ll be fine with respect to getting hired at a major... in two or more years.
  5. I always thought the two girls were twins. That was the irony of the picture. These are clearly not the same people that are in the original photo.
  6. Wait. Are you talking about airline pilot forums or Air Force pilot forums? Baseops. APC Forums. Same same. Pilots sport bitching about pay, unfair treatment, and how leadership/management doesn’t know how to run an organization.
  7. http://www.fox4news.com/news/son-brings-vietnam-war-fighter-pilots-lost-remains-home-to-texas
  8. I may be a little older than the rest here, but airing tragic video is nothing new. Kennedy assassination, Reagan attempted assassination (as a young kid, I remember watching the initial “NBC News Special Report” as it happened), that politician that blew his head off on live TV, Challenger explosion, United 232, Columbia disaster, 9/11 attacks... all of those victims had loved ones too. And America was glued to the TV for all of those tragedies; most aired live as they happened. As disrespectful as airing accident video might be to surviving family members, it’s nothing new and spans back decades. Condolences to the victims, families, friends and squadron mates of yesterday’s mishap.
  9. The airline business model is completely different than in previous downturns (then: market share, today: revenue generation). Future downturns will have less severe impact on the airlines, as efficiencies today (and profits) and retirements tomorrow will pad a softer landing (more likely to slow hiring than produce furloughs).
  10. Go Guard. Foster professional agility. Advance in parallel careers (civ and ANG) through your 20s, 30s, and 40s. Fly mil and begin progressing in the civilian sector simultaneously. Don’t get caught in the trap of having to start fresh in the civ world 10-20 years behind your peers. One day you’ll hang up your mil wings and rely on your civilian accomplishments to continue building wealth and living to your full potential. Better to have 20 years of civ accomplishments/progression at 45 years old than being the FNG as a middle-aged man. The active duty path includes a point in the journey where you return to “Go,” and essentially professionally start from scratch (typically the transition to civ life at mil retirement). That’s why airline pilot is such a popular follow on (especially now, as the hiring/retirement/profitability stars have aligned)... institutionally, it’s a lot like being a mil pilot. I took the active duty route. Enlisted, USAFA, pilot, Guard. If I could do it again, I would have enlisted in the Guard, gone to college, and applied everywhere to become a pilot, meanwhile pursuing a career in law. The satisfaction of a mil career far out shines the flaws of the organization. I have a civ job, but am currently on long term mil orders. Pure flying is (has become) a job (I sometimes wonder if I still enjoy flying). The mission, leadership opportunities, and commaraderie set this job apart from the rest. And you can find just as much of that (or more) in the Guard, as compared to active duty. The guys living the “best” life, IMO, are the part-timers who found the balance early in their mil careers and have squeezed the most out of both... and not all are airline guys. Good luck!
  11. 2- Hardly. It's a good fall back until I/in case I don't find that dream job. Pay/time off/bennies are great, but I don't find satisfaction in the work. 3- Not sure what you mean here. If we can only get the general experiences of the non-airline folks, void of salary, specific details of duties, sector/company name, strategies to get hired, I'm not sure how useful this thread will end up being. That said, there have been a few posts that provided tangible info useful in pursuing other opportunities. Thanks to those contributors.
  12. I understand what you're saying with regard to sharing corporate information/salary data, but simply stating "I make good money, this job has its pluses and minuses, shoot for the stars," really isn't tangible, meaningful information. It's fun to read about people finding success outside of military, but most of the information shared thus far is anecdotal and provides little context. Old Crow, thanks for contributing the information above... helpful for those of us still mulling a career change after going to the airlines.
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