Medical Disqualifiers, pre-UCSOT

[JBird]

(please bear with the lingo and "perspective"...ROTC cadets like myself are more than an amateur in the processes and lingo of active duty)

Current status:

- ROTC cadet (3rd year, approaching senior year) with a rated categorization, specifically CSO 12XXX

- In process of getting my flight physical scheduled...filling out the self reported inventory of what's "wrong with me"

- have a current knee injury (or so i believe an injury) waiting for official doctor diagnosis of whats wrong with it, MRI has been done, waiting for results

Problem:

- I do not want to lose my CSO slot for something as minor as a knee injury.

- possibility of going on MRS when I return for fall semester if the injury does not improve over summer

Worst case scenario:

- knee is injured, requires surgery and this occurs in the process of getting the goddamn flight physical.

- they take note of the injury on the flight physical, and reject me as qualified to fly because that stupid shit. I brought the injury to my chain of command's attention (i don't want to shoot myself in the foot!) (or did I already?)

best case scenario:

- knee just needs some time to heal (no physical training for a while, rehabilitate before semester starts up in the fall again. )

- keep CSO slot, hopefully nothing else can possibly DQ me.

Questions:

- is MRS something to fear while obtaining this flight physical. To my understanding, you can't fly while on MRS, which would mean you can't obtain a flying physical either?

- with regard only to my knee (not any other possible DQs like eye problems and shit like that) how do I eliminate the risk of losing my CSO slot due to my own reporting of this god damn knee injury. you can probably sense the frustration...it's because this was caused by something so stupid, and I would be pretty frustrated if I lost such a great job opportunity for this.

Thanks for the help.

[deaddebate]

2 things and I'll check this in greater detail tomorrow.

1. MRS? I don't know that acronym. Medically Restricted Status? Do you mean DNIF/Mobility Restricted? Or Missus/Mistress?

2. Get the results of the MRI. Everything will hinge on that.

Edited April 20, 2015 by deaddebate

[discus]

From the CAF perspective - Dr's only purpose in life is to make you not able to fly/do your job. We have a LtCol pilot in Afghanistan right now with a broken wrist. His fix? A wrist guard from the BX. Maybe a bit extreme, but now you understand the mentality. Does said knee injury prevent you from running/jumping/walking? If so, Dr. is needed. If you can tough it out, no Dr. needed.

[JBird]

2 things and I'll check this in greater detail tomorrow.

1. MRS? I don't know that acronym. Medically Restricted Status? Do you mean DNIF/Mobility Restricted? Or Missus/Mistress?

2. Get the results of the MRI. Everything will hinge on that.

Answers to your two questions:

1. Medical Re-check Status. (per my SSgt who works at our detachment) I beleived it was Medical Reject Status until he told me I wasn't hearing him correctly and that it was re-check, not reject.

2. Trying my best to get the results ASAP. Local doctors office is not cooperating too well...

Question in regards to #2: If the MRI yields an injury of some sort, does that mean I'm screwed? I looked at the file link you posted (the Air Force Waiver guide) Did a Ctrl + F (Find) for the word knee...didn't see much that pertained to me as far as I know.

From the CAF perspective - Dr's only purpose in life is to make you not able to fly/do your job. We have a LtCol pilot in Afghanistan right now with a broken wrist. His fix? A wrist guard from the BX. Maybe a bit extreme, but now you understand the mentality. Does said knee injury prevent you from running/jumping/walking? If so, Dr. is needed. If you can tough it out, no Dr. needed.

CAF = Combat Air Forces?

because of no definitive medical results yet, the doc has only gone off my own assessment of pain. Yes, I can push through to a certain extent. I ran my PFA, an 11:45 for the run. My best was a 8:53..... Granted I was taking it easy on purpose, but my ultimate goal is to not have to run with chronic knee pain or do my duty with chronic knee pain /sustained injury. I know the difference between pushing through the normal aches and pains of physical training, but this knee thing isn't like what I've had before. never even had knee problems my whole life up until this one.

If there's a defined medical problem with it, what are my chances to keeping my spot and not losing it?

[deaddebate]

First, your question is too vague. Could you answer a question like, "My car is making a funny noise, but I really need to drive from New York to Pennsylvania and I don't have money for a mechanic. Will my car break down or will it make it?"

The MRI / Ortho notes will dictate how everything progresses.

I've never heard of MRS before, but the capability does exist in the MSD (Medical Standards Directory) and DODI 6130.03, which essentially allows the doc to temp DQ you for any condition until it resolves. How it specifically is applied to your situation would be better answered by a recruiter.

Lastly, searching "knee" won't help you because so much is determined by your functional capability, the MRI, and the specialists recommendation. The knee a complicated and finicky thing. Creating a waiver guide entry for ever possible knee condition /derangement and stage of recovery would be impossible.

I could post more but it's late. Get your MRI results, the most important sections are usually titled "Impressions" and "Findings." Transcribe them here if you want and some folks here could probably help interpret and educate you on your likelihood of approval/waiver.

Edited April 21, 2015 by deaddebate

[jsaintmarie]

I am new to the forms and I am looking for any information or guidance on how to apply for a medical waiver or to be seen by a military medical doctor to discuss my options. I applied for the officer candidate school in the Navy and I am looking to obtain a pilot slot. I got medically disqualified for not being “physically fit for services.” I have partial ornithine transcarbamylase deficiency and have had no medical issues since I was diagnosed. I have such a mild case that they did not even know I had it when I was born and it wasn't even discovered until I was almost 3 years old.  I have been cleared by the FAA, obtained a first class medical license, and started flying in college. 

Are there any military medical doctors that I can see? 

Can I reapply to OCS?

What is age limit for a pilot slot in the navy? 

[matmacwc]

Improve your Google there snap.

 

https://www.med.navy.mil/sites/nmotc/nami/arwg/Pages/AeromedicalReferenceandWaiverGuide.aspx

 

 

Edited September 3, 2015 by matmacwc