BolterKing
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You are a raging tool. If you want a website keeping up with the "modern" Air Force and armed forces, scurry on over to Pinterest.If you want "to get this straight," then read what my response was for. People try to depict Rainman as some kind of model of officership, and I pointed out how he would not even exist in today's AF.
Yes, that was only three years ago. Three years ago, and that thread is full of comments from gearpig, ClearedHot, M2, and a bunch of others either piling on or condoning Rainman's comments, and y'all successfully eliminated a cadet from the forums. Nice job! I doubt those mods would make the same comments today, out of political correctness. That's how fast this stuff is changing.
Is BODN not designed for officer aircrew? Sure, we also have Steve Davis and Scoobs and BQZip's mom and random journalists lurking on here, all the more reason to have some standards of decency. BODN is not keeping up with the AF, not even close, yet if this is supposed to be a forum for Air Force Officer aircrew (and others), and if your intent is to provide some mentorship, maybe, just maybe you guys need to make some attempt at reflecting good officership.
Another problem you have is that the BODN "squadron bar" is not a squadron bar. A squadron bar is a very limited number of like-minded individuals without recording devices. BODN "squadron bar" is an open internet forum for all the world to see (not even a login required to view) and some of the postings are even more disgusting than what you see in your neighborhood fighter squadron bar.
BODN need to have a meeting and get on the same page because you guys clearly are not. You have mods contradicting each other and deleting each other's posts.
I'll say this, Rainman did have one good piece of advice: Never talk to the media. Guess what you dingleberries are doing with every single post on BODN? Showing your ass is what you're doing, and it aint pretty. Recommend either eliminating the sexist NSFW drivel from BODN or making it login-required. You're not doing yourselves any favors by fighting for a Tailhook website. Too many of the mods are stuck in some glorified, olden days AF, which most of them never even experienced. Too many BODN members fight to maintain the status quo or to even move things in a direction the public and government will never return to. Not a whole lot of leadership in that...
"Modern" in this sense is not a good thing. Those prior generations you denigrate are the same ones that stomped the guts out of the Axis, won the Cold War, plowed through Iraq in 100 days, etc. Today I need a quorum of lawyers to commune for 60 minutes before going kinetic on a TIC, but only after I've done 900 suicide awareness briefs, signed a page 13 promising not to beat my wife, and given up all vices.
Mission succes and support of the troops be damned, being (and more importantly looking) PC has become priority number one, and a great cost. Nice work.
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In two sentences you contradict yourself. So do you go to Hooters for the high quality food, or to drink beer and stare at hot chicks in tight shirts?I agree. Here's a great article on the decline of chivalry and over-sexualization of society in general. BL: Women can't ask for men to be chivalrous and then flaunt their sexuality at the same time.
In this particular instance, I don't think the fact that she's a cheerleader makes it safe to assume that she wants to be objectified. I choose to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Congrats to the dude, but he made a public spectacle of getting engaged to his hot, scantily clad, mildly-public figure g/f. Pretty sure this forum is chock full of pictures of chicks and guys "objectifying women". Is it only off limits this time because you have a big brother complex or because he's a fellow Airman? Where is your protest in the 80+ page NSFW thread?
I have no dog in this hunt, but there is a shit load of hipocracy flowing in this thread, and a lot of guys with hurt feelings for her.... when I'd be willing to bet she's got thicker skin than any of you and could probably give a damn less about what a bunch of internet forum puds think about her.
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Glad to see all OK, good group of dudes.
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Count me in.
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The real tragedy here is another guy getting married. If he played his cards right he could've been banging 24 year olds for the next 20 years.
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Brass, lead, gold and shelf stable calories.
What what are we talking about?
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She sucks, but does she suck as much as current elected "leadership?"
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Her husband has taken to defending her from the internets. Hilarity ensues
Link link for the love of God LINK!
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If ever there was a culture in the Navy known for eating their young it's Surface Warfare.
That's kinda the reason for the back stabbing, it's viewed as the only way to get ahead and it's a fair game because everybody else's is playing it so you don't want to be the one honest guy left out.
It's also a very tough community to advance in. If you have career aspirations, there are no FITREP points for being a good dude. If you're not willing to climb over your friends, you're pretty much done before you start.
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WTF. Are people this stupid?
You asking this question, answers it.
/sarcasm
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I've worked mainly flyers (mostly P-3 pilots and EA-6 NFOs) and SWOs.
See you could've stopped right there. Most SWOs are back stabbers, and most P-3 pilots/NFOs are just SWOs with wings.
That said, I know some epic dudes from the P-3 community, and very few of them stayed past O-3, on active duty anyway. That definitely is a very different community from the rest of Naval Aviation.
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Couple things I'd like to point out here.
Lots of words.
Shack.
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Communities of said back stabbers?
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Not sure if the root cause is the FITREP system or something else, but in my experience Navy officers tend to be backstabbers. Chiefs, however, tend to be solid dudes.
Your experience? Which is what exactly?
Not even close to accurate.
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Oh great...more OPR "code words" and people trying interpret the meaning. That is precisely what is wrong with the AF today. We get a bunch of O-6s on a board trying to decide what someone really meant by the phraseology they put in an OPR because apparently we don't put what we really mean in an OPR. If the guy is a dirtbag and his career should be ended, then just say so. What ends this guy's career won't be anything to do with what he did by talking to the media, but how poorly worded (intended or not) his OPR was written. I think with all the buffoonery going on with the AF today, the media issue won't hurt the guy...if anything, it will help him.
This will never work, you may hurt someone's feelings.
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Exactly, and what his chain of command did at best was derelict, at worst criminal. The dude had orders from a doc to not fly with the charcoal filter which started this whole thing. Would you have confidence in you COC under those circumstances? If they can't back you up for something this small, when your health is in question, what are they going to do down range? The lawyers make it hard enough to do the job, zero top cover from an image worried front office would make it impossible.And their cranks got chopped, as it were.
Unfortunately, as you or any flyer knows, "just doing your job" in the flying community isn't as simple as just being let back in the office. It also requires the trust of your chain of command. I applaud these guys for what they did--I think that it made a difference. But if they no longer have the trust of their commanders, then not flying isn't actually punitive, no matter how much you want to fly.
Kind of like you can't get disciplined as a result of a safety investigation, but a commander directed Q3 isn't punitive, and often follows safety investigations.
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One guy died, countless others had waivering faith in the OBOGS system (the Hornet/Superhornet OBOGS has a HAZREP sheet a mile long, and it doesn't operate at 60k+). The USAF was keeping quiet and even blamed the AK crash on the pilot.In any civilian company, taking an issue straight to the media would be grounds for termination. This guy just gets to wither in VA ANG staff limbo.
I miss Rainman... Never talk to the media.
These guys were whistle blowers. While the heavies were playing politics with a jet they felt might kill them, this was their only way to bring it to light.
Normally I would agree, never talk to the media... But these two were willing to put their crank on the chopping block for the betterment of others. Says a lot more about the USAF than the judgement of these two.
This isn't done yet, and I have a feeling the IG is going to be destroying some careers, and not of the guys on 60 minutes.
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You can bang out an ATP in a weekend. If you think you want to fly after you get out, shell out the cash and get it done now.
Do not waste your money on a 737 type.
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Got it.
That's not a problem with the system, that's a problem with being around a bunch of douchebags. I've never been anywhere where guys turned into dickheads for a strat or DP.
Only seen it once. Douche rocket was universally shunned by his peers but was such a suck up leadership looked out for him. He's progressing last I heard, but he's very lonely doing it.
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Another pitfall of the system is that the rating officer only has so many of each category to give out. So say in a group of 8 officers, only one can get an EP, two or three will get an MP and the rest P (early promote, must promote, promotable).
Where this becomes a total fallacy is if the rating officer knows a guy is getting out. He'll give the "quitter" a P so as not to "waste" an EP. Thus you get guys getting top tier ratings, that otherwise wouldn't have. Then the quitter leaves having a stellar track record then showing his last FITREP as all of a sudden becoming a shitbag. That follows him/her into a reserve career. It's so common that promotion boards will try and overlook it, but can be a deal breaker for promotion or selection if the board needs a tie breaker. I recently saw an entire group of great dudes all get P's on their way out, and the second to last performer scores an EP.
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Oh look, the Navy fired another senior officer. This is my shocked face.
The best anyone can do anymore is break even. It turns great leaders into terrified yes men, and the ones that do really lead with a warrior mind set usually leave the Navy if they survive their command tour (we don't promote bold warriors). There are exceptions to the rule, but they wonder why junior officers are bailing left and right and why morale is in the toilet.
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The pilots is a good friend, was glad to have him back with his wife and girls.
There were a lot of mistakes made, and too many senior leaders sticking their fingers in the pie. Even without a mx det in Khar, most guys would have taken a divert. The Admiral is a great guy, and he didn't want a blue water situation either when he called for them to divert (against the air wing wanting them back at the boat). Admiral is a great pilot too. Admittedly the crew could have put their foot down and just taken a course of action, but as we all know that can be easier said than done. It's even harder in a deployed carrier environment where it may be days or weeks to fetch a hurt bird/crew.
The FADEC on Superhornet engines is a double edge sword. It's great when it works, but if you need to limp and trash an engine to save the plane... It won't let you. This emergency was also compounded by a very subtle, and until now almost completely unknown quirk of the Superhornet.... When the probe is out fuel will only gravity feed from the wings once the LO FUEL warning trips open all valves. Until then you have trapped gas in the wings. Even once it starts to gravity feed, it's at too slow a rate or keep the fires lit. Almost no one knew this, and only a few sentences buried in NATOPS make mention of it.
Classic Swiss cheese event, compounded by leadership micromanagement and failures, in a complicated environment. I'm just glad they got out.
I can't speak for boat ops, but I can tell you the Navy values rank over experience. A specific example that comes to mind is SAR. During most flight briefs, when the topic of On Scene Commander comes up, there's usually a 1-2 minute discussion on who the highest ranking member in the flight is regardless of flight position. I was in a mass red air brief at Fallon where an aircraft was designated as the overall SAR on scene commander because a shoe clerk Admiral was highest ranking as the passenger in the back seat of a Super Hornet.
100% accurate. Seen it happen with FAC(A) crews in the flight.
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"I'm out meow"?
Spellcheck really does hate us.
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I'm sure neither the AF nor the Navy cares...after all, they are trying to get rid of a bunch of officers, right?
I'm out meow, but from talking to buds the Bureau is doing some pretty underhanded shady shit to keep guys in longer. Apparently now going back to the RAG (RTU) to get current counts as a major training event and warrants a 2 year commitment. Getting rehacked, to do your ing job, so that you can deploy.... Requires another two years. And the Navy wonders why guys are running for the exits.
Apparently if you refuse that commitment, no more flying for you.... And enjoy the shittiest desk job in we can find for you. Leadership at its finest. Punishing the "quitters" of a volunteer force.
Decline of Baseops.net (aka The Wrath of PYB/Mods gone wild)
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Kinetic WASN'T difficult when supporting the guys on the ground was priority one, then in 2007 things changed. In 2008-9 it was difficult, in 2011 the turn around was averaging 30-60 minutes. On more than one occasion I watched guys on the ground suffer because chariot denied requests for fire.
Retired guys can do what they want, that's the beauty of being retired.
That gear handle pays a buttload now and keeps me home with the family 15 days a month... but haters gonna hate.