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10 hours ago, Boomer6 said:
Gents, stop feeding the trolls. The individuals you’re trying to engage with have shown time and again they’re not interested in having a good faith argument. They find spouting some drivel about Christianity they picked up on reddit as their form of “owning the conservatives.” They’re just as intolerant as the caricatures of religious bigotry that they rail against.
Not a troll and I'm happy to have good faith debate to the extent that I have limited time to live my life on the baseops forums. Anyone familiar with my comment history knows I bash on the radical left as much as the radical right. It's almost like I have a thing against radicals of all types! Weird..
I think we all need some devils advocate (pun intended) from time to time to prevent this place from turning into a breitbart comments section, and I'm happy to provide it.
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9 hours ago, FourFans said:
For example: Please defend your central theme of "The Bible is every bit as brutal as the Quran".
Exodus 32 verses 19-35. You know that little part about Moses and the people who chose the side of the lord slaughtering 3,000 of their friends and family.
Numbers 15, a man is found working on the sabbath. God orders him to be killed and he is stoned.
God orders Moses to "Harass the midianites, and smite them", and to again count "all that are able to go forth to war in Israel" (Numbers 25–26).The Israelites go to war, and "slew every male". They take captive the women and children, and take all cattle, flocks and goods as loot, and burn all cities and camps. When they return to Moses, he is angered, and commands "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves"
Just a few examples. I can go on quite literally all day quoting wildly messed up passages of the Bible justifying violence against non-believers, idolaters, people who just are different from the Israelites etc.. But I'm sure you guys have a bunch of public mental jiujitsu forthcoming about how the New Testament makes all this stuff magically okay now and it's all about forgiveness.
9 hours ago, FourFans said:lease define "LU fundamentalists". You started by comparing Liberty University to Muslim extremists, then shifted to "LU fundamentalists". You introduced a new term and presumably a different people group. Define it.
I'll just refer you to the "liberty way" code they force all students to sign which dictates students conduct themselves according to fundamentalist/literalist Bible interpretations in their personal lives or risk expulsion/punishment. Homosexual students literally have to keep their relationships secret.. much like homosexuals do in certain fundamentalist middle eastern cultures.
11 hours ago, HeloDude said:I wonder, do you tell your Christian friends (if you have any of them?) that you believe they’re same as Muslim extremists? If so, why not? Also, why would ever have any type of relationship with someone you believe is the same as a Muslim extremist?
Additionally, why should Christians want to be friends with you if you think they’re the same as Muslim extremists?
I don't have any fundamentalist Christian friends and I doubt they'd want to be friends with me. After all I drink, take the lords name in vain, had a bunch of pre-marital sex, and generally strive to violate most of the liberty way.
But to answer your question, no I wouldn't say anything. Primarily because gay, straight, trans, or bigoted religious zealot, as long as you aren't actively hurting anyone I don't really care what you think. Thinking extreme things and violently acting on those extreme thoughts are different.
But my point here is the root of the intolerant thoughts is the same. The idea that your religion knows best and others living differently should be judged holds across almost all religions across the world. Whether you act on those crap ideas is mainly a product of your environment and how much your surrounding culture normalizes violence.
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1 hour ago, HeloDude said:
You think Liberty University is the same as Muslim extremists—got it.
Honestly.. kinda yeah. If you live in a western 1st world country and your views are 60-90% as regressive as Islamic extremists in the third world.. you might have a problem. Born in a slightly different time/place LU fundamentalists are exactly the type of people who would have conducted jihads/crusades over their religious dogma.
Christians throughout history have leveraged intolerance to justify violence, just like Islamic extremists do. The Bible is every bit as brutal as the Quran. Only recently after centuries of moderation due mainly to renaissance humanists, have Christians in the western 1st world figured out that bigoted violence isn't okay. Just in time for them to get on their high horse about it.
But the intolerance never went away, the violence was just moderated.. from mostly external sources. Religious extremism is the same intolerant mentality whether you find it in Afghanistan or rural Virginia. It just presents differently when it's filtered through local cultural norms.
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7 hours ago, FLEA said:
This kid also gets the award for absolute dumbest reason to mishandle classified.
Not because you're going to whistle blow a perceived ethical violation, not because you're a no shit spy (which is shitty but at least you have a motivation, money, power, whatever...) Not because you're a fast burner and thought you could get some work done on the weekend.... Like hell..... even Trump clearly had an agenda to drop some bomb shell leaks right into the election......
No..... you literally leaked a trove of sensitive information to impress a group of adolescent Call of Duty gamers..... how fucking moronic do you get.....
Under a discord pseudonym that uses your actual first name Jesus H Christ 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I can see the cyber awareness CBT update now..
Situation of the day:
You're T-bagging n00bs with your CoD buddies in discord and a new user named "Steve the sketchy spy" joins the chat. He sends you an attachment labeled "super dope government intel brief". Do you:
a) open the attachment
b) call the New York Times
c) go off the grid
d) alert your security manager
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e) you forgot to pull your CAC first standby for remediation
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Airman snuffy really f-ed up this time. I think this EPR might be a referral guys
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19 hours ago, HeloDude said:
California is literally the epitome of what happens with progressive policies…and yet you’re saying the country wants progressive policies?
Btw, I always find it funny how people like Nsplayr enjoy living in a state like Tennessee, but yet will tell you how bad TN is wrt their politics and how much better Cali is…but continues to stay in TN.
No I'm saying people vote mainly along party lines and when they don't do that, they vote on candidate personality. Which is why running a bland houseplant is the better move than Kamala or Gavin.. both deeply unlikeable people for a litany of reasons.
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8 hours ago, FDNYOldGuy said:
I still don’t understand why anyone would sit down to an interview with Jon Stewart and not be fully prepared with their A-game to defend whatever it is that you do. He’s obviously shown up there for a reason and it’s usually not to say he’s thinking you’re doing a great job.
Regardless of your love of the positions he takes, it’s rare that I run into too many folks that think the arguments he presents are not pretty well laid-out and backed up. Why anyone would show up not having at least an inkling he may make you look like an asshole is beyond me…
Then again, I’m admittedly very biased and f-ing love him, as he’s been a tireless proponent for government support of 9/11 related illnesses for first responders and his actions have had direct effects on brothers I know and love. Without him AND THIS SPEECH, this battle would still be ongoing
Well said. I disagree a lot with Jon Stewart politically but he has a nose for sniffing out bullshit and exposing it. Reference his popularization of the lab leak on colbert's show or all of his amazing 9-11 responders advocacy. It's insane to come into this conversation snippy and condescending the way she did.
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52 minutes ago, High-n-Dry said:
God help us all if that scum bag makes it into office.
Gavin Newsom might be in a three way tie with kamala and trump for the most hated political players in America right now. If Dems go with Gavin that will be a major mistake. His negatives are huge and most of the country is highly aware of the shithole California has become.
Stretching Biden for another term is the best play for the left. Other than a left field Yang/Tulsi ticket that they'd never do in a million years. The game at this point is basically whichever party can alienate fewer people wins, so as long as trump is running Dems have a great chance with the senile houseplant
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More of a DOD-wide problem but here's Jon Stewart asking the deputy defense secretary basic questions about why we cant account for where 70% of the budget goes
And she has the nerve to get snippy with him..
lady, in what world are you going to verbally out-maneuver Jon Stewart
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On 4/9/2023 at 7:03 AM, GKinnear said:
So you're arguing that if election influencing is executed at the institutional level, then it's ok? Especially when that institution is the same one who determines what legal actions are pursued in the Criminal courts?
To your point about potential crime...the DA's supposed to know what the crime is before charging. He may not legally have to publish the underlying charge on the indictment, but morally & ethically he is. There is a perception of purely political prosecution, which is anathema to the Constitution and the rule of law. At a certain level, I think Stalin and Mao are a little jealous of how this case is going.
The potential for conflict of interest, capricious, targeted, etc. seems very high if this were in the DoD. I wouldn't be surprised if there were an IG report if that were the case. Maybe that's on me, by viewing the whole situation through the USAF perspective.
I don't know what to tell you guys, you're all looking for some virtuous moral north star in a game completely devoid of morals. You're absolutely right, it's capricious, targeted, and almost certainly strategically timed for maximum election impact.
But if you don't like it, don't give them an opening. Be smarter than them. Because you can bet the left will try to capitalize on any indiscretion just as I would expect the right to do if the roles were reversed. Trump is the epitome of the phrase "play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
It's also pretty funny that you mention perception. Because a majority of Americans support the indictment. This is not playing as some horrific travesty of justice anywhere other than very right wing circles. And this next point doesn't speak to the validity of the case, but since you mentioned perception.. it appears the majority perception in America is that trump has existed almost entirely outside the rule of law, so people don't seem to have qualms about the book finally being thrown at him.
Trump being held accountable for something.. literally anything.. is a far cry from Maoist/Stalinist political persecution. But you keep trying to sell that one through 2024 and see how far it gets you.-
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4 hours ago, GKinnear said:
I'm trying to reconcile your two statements here.
The first one seems to back the DA's legal analysis that trying to influence the election using his personal money is somehow a crime.
The second leads me to believe you support election influencing from one party to ensure the unelectable candidate is the nominee.
What am I missing that would prove these statements both conform to a logical, consistent set of principles, outside of a political perspective?
Edit: I'll allow it was business money on the Stormy Daniels payoff...that Trump owned, so potato / potato. As I understand it, the only person defrauded financially was Trump.
Well one is potentially a crime, and the other is a strategic decision about when to prosecute that potential crime. Seems like a pretty simple distinction to me.
And I'm not saying trying to influence an election is bad. That's literally what running for office is. That's why people raise money, and run attack ads, and try to win debates.
But the common thread here is: don't be an idiot. If you have skeletons that will hurt your election chances and are going to pay people off, be smart about it and don't get caught. Because you can bet the other team is going to have a field day if they figure out what you did.
Im not really interested in making value judgments either way. You all know my opinions on trump but on the flip side of the coin, I don't think the Dems are on some morally virtuous crusade. They're making hay while the sun is shining. That's it.
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I do think there's a fun question in here to unpack though..
Are the democrats targeting trump because they actually think they can take him down, or are they doing it to prop him up so he wins the nomination?
If it's the latter, which it probably is, it's a great move from the left. I think they believe trump is utterly unelectable in a general election so they want to ensure he's the nominee. If they space out the prosecution of the payments, the Georgia fake electors scheme, and the classified documents, they'll keep the media lens squarely focused on trump to the detriment of any other candidates on the right all the way through this year.
Trump's significant but non-majority base will galvanize around his martyr status, edge out any viable Republican candidates, and virtually guarantee dems a win in 2024.
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On 4/5/2023 at 6:19 PM, ClearedHot said:
I don't think you understand the law....it is ONLY a crime (and a misdemeanor at that), if he then used those "altered" books to raise or borrow money. That two year clock ran out YEARS ago. Now I know you are a rah rah hang the Orange Man guy but if you want to connect it to the election that is a federal statue, something the NY DA can't prosecute and something the DOJ already looked at and elected to pass on. By the way to make it a felony it has to be in an effort to hide another crime. Lets say somehow this lunacy is a felony, that clock is five years and again it ran out a long time ago. This is nothing but the democratic hate machine generating drama.
You guys are creating a martyr. Prior to this there was a chance he was going to lose in the primaries...now the base will harden in response and he will win the nomination. Even the talking heads at CNN have admitted it...let it go...let him fade to oblivion.
Even the New York Times agrees...
The underlying crime being trying to influence the outcome of an election.. you know that little thing.
And I'm sure the prosecution wouldn't debut these charges only to get immediately top-roped by a 5 year timer they forgot to account for. Turns out there quite a lot more nuance to that as well which I'm sure will be fiercely argued in court.
The legal analysis I've seen of this case that seems legit all zeros in on the prosecution having to prove trumps intent behind the payments. Because the intent speaks to the possibility of a larger crime.
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9 hours ago, ClearedHot said:
In your words you said he paid her off with "campaign funds", that is simply not true. The allegation in the indictment is business fraud because he re-categorized business funds and changed the accounting entries. As has been pointed out by BOTH sides, this is only a crime where there an intent to defraud (use those books to raise or borrow money), AND if that was true it is a misdemeanor with a two year statue of limitations. Please look beyond the narrative at the facts, that is what DA should do but as you point out they have political allegiances and they use their position to shape, influence and ultimately charge.
Oh so I guess he was just "recategorizing" the business expenditures for sh!ts and grins on the specific dates that just so happen to correspond with payoffs his lawyer made to the pornstar he banged. Silly me! Just a simple book keeping snafu. I just hate it when I have a business and I make 35 book-keeping errors that perfectly coincide in amounts and dates with payoffs I'm being accused of.
Or.. "business fraud" is the legalese umbrella under which you would charge this exact behavior. The only reasonable defense here for it not to be a felony is that trump was making these payments to conceal the affair from his wife. Because as we all know trump is a yuuuge marriage guy.
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It's like you guys just discovered that district attorneys are politically connected people with allegiances and enemies..
Welcome to politics.. and reality. Sorry your guy was stupid enough to pay off a pornstar with campaign funds in state that hates his guts. Maybe do it in the backwoods of Alabama next time.
Are you seriously telling me right now If republicans had Hillary dead to rights on some petty charge in a red state they wouldn't prosecute?? Because norms?
Its so funny, you guys talk all about "playing the game" in your AF career but it's mind boggling for a political party "play the game" and break norms when it suits them. **Spoiler alert** everyone in politics breaks norms when it suits them.. and bitches about the other party breaking norms when it suits them.
It's just one big tit-for-tat game. It's never been fair. And it never will be. So you have two COAs:
1) continue complaining about the game not being fair
2) cut your losses, play smarter, and avoid hitching your wagon to orange clowns who make unforced political errors like it's a bodily function.
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1 minute ago, VMFA187 said:
I didn't insinuate anything. I made a statement. I agree that both sides should be prosecuted if guilty of crimes. We haven't seen anything on Biden or his son, Nancy Pelosi's infamous insider trading, or anything on Hillary Clinton pushed forward.
Didn't we have a former President of the democratic variety lie under oath about an affair while in office? Is that not worse than what the Left is seeking to currently prosecute Trump for?
Agree with all of the above. The right should get on all of that and prosecute away. I mean it. Every single one of them belongs in jail.
But the fact that the right is currently behind the ball does not make trump's prosecution invalid. Only the jury will decide that.
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2 hours ago, VMFA187 said:
The Left has started utilizing the judicial system to attack its opponents. I feel like we have seen this happen in other countries before...
Lol is the insinuation here that trump is squeaky clean and this is nothing but a baseless witch hunt? Like a KGB style targeting of a political dissident? It's a fun narrative for the right to rally around for sure. Except it doesn't jive with reality.
Reality is that trump has likely been getting away with crap his entire life due to money, power, and status. His, Biden, and Pence's classified document debacles would be enough to land any of us normies in prison for a long time. But of course none of them will face consequences for that blatant recklessness.
Personally I'm glad the left opened this door. Hopefully the right retaliates and prosecutes crimes committed by prominent leftists. As long as the prosecutions have solid evidence, more politicians going to jail on both sides is an extremely good thing. I cannot think of a single group of people who deserve it more.
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3 hours ago, HossHarris said:
Never ever pay off the GTC out of pocket. The naughty list should be a red flag on someone’s slide for finance … not for you.
Yeah luckily I'm older and wiser now and don't fall for that anymore.
But it's pretty messed up thinking back to when I was a young LT I never heard that sentiment from any leadership. You just get a nastygram one day saying you're delinquent and on the naughty list and it's gonna hit your credit so you panic and pay it. Doesn't help that you haven't TDY'd enough times yet to attain DTS wizard status, so the likelihood of a voucher kicked back is much higher
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I actually really enjoy telling my civilian friends about the GTC because the idea of it is so insane to them.
"wait so you mean like a company card.. right?"
"wrong.. imagine if your company opened a credit card in your name, but if you use it for the wrong thing you get in massive trouble, and if your expense reports get delayed at all it dings your credit"
*insert civilian friend what the fuck face here*
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Yet another horseshit aspect of the GTC, a tale as old as time:
-get home from a deployment
-fill out voucher at finance day after with over the shoulder guidance from finance
-finance kicks back the voucher they helped me create
-9 grand in airline/rental car fees just sitting there overdue
-now I'm on the naughty list
-pay the 9 grand out of my personal account to get off the naughty list
-voucher approved 2 days later
-get on Citi website to get refunded
-I have to wait 10 effing business days for a refund because of transaction timing limits
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Your mileage may vary but I've never used my gtc for anything other than airline tix and rental cars that were required to be booked through DTS. Probably have 50+ TDYs with hotels on my personal card and never heard a peep except once when someone asked and I told them my GTC got declined. (It was actually true in that instance because the charge was above the GTC credit limit) 👌👌👌
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19 minutes ago, VMFA187 said:
I mentioned to my wife I'd volunteer one day a month to guard my daughters school and she countered "but would you trust the other dads who would want to volunteer as well? They don't have the experience you do."
Maybe some training would be required for most, but I'd fucking stand guard.
Not a bad idea.
or use the national guard. We have roughly 400,000 national guard members and 100,000 public schools so that's roughly 4 guards per school right there. Obviously it wouldn't be full time so you'd have to involve police and volunteers as well but it's certainly doable.
Or cut aid to Ukraine by 10% and you've financed a years salary for privately hired guards at every school for a decade
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11 minutes ago, Biff_T said:
By how many mass shootings a country has perhaps?
😂 yes.. but I'm sure you're familiar with a circular argument
-why do we have so many mass shootings
-because of the degraded social fabric
-why is our social fabric degraded
-because we have so many mass shootings
WTF? (**NSFW**)
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Totally agree. It's funny, when people say leftism has become a religion I don't think they realize that's an indictment of leftism.. and religion