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1 hour ago, Seadogs said:
I'm talking about when 1 candidate was ahead and all counting ceased. Then when counting resumes the other candidate shoots up and overtakes the leading candidate. You won't find another example of that in history, only in corrupt African elections.
You've look through all US presidential elections to convince yourself of this? I'm sure in 2016 there was a similar absentee ballot jump for Clinton, just that it wasn't enough for Trump to lose and wasn't spread on social media since Trump won that election.
Btw in Wisconsin and Michigan there were similar spikes in cumulative votes for Trump when several counties that were heavily Trump were reported simultaneously, but that doesn't fit the narrative now does it?
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21 minutes ago, Seadogs said:
Show me when and where.
https://www.nvsos.gov/sos/elections/voters/election-turnout-statistics
Here's an example. You can scroll down to 2016 and see 20,000 votes were counted on Nevada after week 1 had passed. They stop counting when there's nothing left to count and waiting for another batch of legally postmarked mail in ballots, or when they are counting votes and report them all at once as was the case in Michigan (giving the impression of a pause).
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27 minutes ago, Seadogs said:
You my friend have not offered any evidence to support your claims.
The onus is on the accusor. Also stopping counting in the middle of the night has happened in previous elections.
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1 hour ago, MooseAg03 said:
If anyone looks at the situation from a purely objective standpoint, then they will come to the conclusion that something weird happened.
No, they would come to the conclusion that there is misinformation spreading like wildfire, and trust the courts to settle any serious cases of voter fraud.
1 hour ago, MooseAg03 said:I've heard one counting location told the Republicans they stopped counting at 10:30 pm, only to continue counting without oversight until 1 am.
Source?
1 hour ago, MooseAg03 said:If they had been mailed, then they would have been more randomized and they tend to favor Republican candidates as time goes on since rural areas take longer for ballots to be shipped and processed.
https://twitter.com/aphilosophae/status/1325592112428163072?s=10
1 hour ago, MooseAg03 said:From new draconian coronavirus lockdowns that obviously haven't worked
Source? The research is clear that they do work, but whether the economic/social cost is worth it is a matter of opinion/politics.
1 hour ago, MooseAg03 said:additional mandates to only breathe air filtered by a mask (which also hasn't worked the past 6 months)
They work, it's not a silver bullet.
1 hour ago, MooseAg03 said:now our election system is being brought into question either by people hell bent on taking down Trump or his craziness in refusing to accept the results.
I'll agree here. Any actual evidence of fraud should absolutely go through the court system. But it's definitely the most unlikely case that there is massive voter fraud at the scale necessary to change the results and Trump is undermining the democratic process by implying otherwise (even though he is within his legal right to challenge).
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31 minutes ago, Sim said:
And all can be easily checked. Visit that top heavy GOP small precinct and do a hand recount. There is no "independent" choice. Only Trump Vs Biden.
That's not what I mean by independent choice. What I refer to is straight from Dr Shiva's video. There are straight party ballots (e.g. your ballot is all republican) and ballots where you can independently vote for every position (e.g. republican president but Democrat rep). That is what is meant by independent choice ballots, and the whole crux of his argument is based on the difference between how these two were reported. What you cited does not show what percentage of ballots were straight party votes, which again is the main premise of his video. If you want to shift to another fraud argument I am more than happy to do so but I am strictly addressing Dr Shiva's video since someone mentioned it was cause for concern and was not being discussed here.
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1 hour ago, pcola said:
So you informed individuals...please enlighten me on what I’m apparently missing wrr the aforementioned MIT Professor’s video which clearly establishes election fraud occurred in MI. Why is this not a topic of debates here? The case they presented seems overwhelming to me. Am I missing something?
Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile appThat's DR. Shiva to you, inventor of email, grifter in chief, polymath genius with 800 on his SAT math who thinks vitamins will improve your immune defense against COVID contrary to double blind placebo studies.
All jokes aside, I'll address his main argument. This does not "clearly" show anything and shows a poor demonstration of basic statistical understanding.
The first point I'll make is that you cannot show two linear correlations on one chart comparing data in different portions of the same dataset. Either they thought the concept of a nonlinear correlation was too advanced for the general public, or they thought the general public was too stupid to realize this basic fact. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's the former and move on to the broader argument.
I did not independentally verify the data they were using, since they did not publish it, but for the sake of the argument I will assume it is real. Quite hypocritical for him to bash on the government not releasing data to the public and not do so himself, but that's beside the main point here. The fact was that there were more Republican votes via straight ticket ballots than trump votes at an increasing rate the more republican the precinct got. That's undisputed if the data was correct. The error lies in his assumption that this implies a "weighted voter algorithm" of some sort. One possible explanation is that since the sample size of candidate choice ballots is correlated with republican precincts (which correlate to smaller the more republican it gets), more error is introduced to the difference between straight voting and choice ballots at an increasing rate. In other words, more republican precincts are smaller, which means an even smaller portions of ballots are not straight ticket ballots, which means the very few independent choice ballots that are counted have a much bigger swing on this effect. If he plotted precinct size vs republican share of votes you would get the same correlation, but he does not show otherwise or give access to the data to prove this. This is just one of several possible explanations, and without addressing them his conclusion would get rejected immediately by any statistician.
TLDR: It's a classic case of isolating dependent variables to find a correlation that fits your narrative.
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2 minutes ago, pawnman said:
You are aware that even low-skill employers like Walmart or McDonald's have people who are making different amounts of money, right? That not every employee is making minimum wage, and that not every employee is making the same amount as every other employee?
It would be quite feasible for a company with the kind of pricing power you are suggesting to hire 100 people at $5/hr and then 100 more at $8/hr. Where are the people willing to settle for $5/hr going to go if they are unhappy with the fact their counterparts make more than them?Absolutely, it's a way simplistic explanation to show how the mechanism works, I'm not going to go into all the caveats that make it fall somewhere in the middle in reality such as frictional unemployment, money velocity, experience levels, etc. The company would never hire the 100 more at $8 dollars in this simple example I gave, since that would lower the profit. It would simply leave it at $5 (or somewhere in between when you consider marginal revenue instead of fixed revenue) to maximize profit.
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9 hours ago, ViperMan said:
I must not be understanding something. What am I missing?
It's not that low skill employers are a textbook monopsony, rather that it explains market inefficiencies in the labor market when modeled as a monopsony/oligopsony. People who argue for free market principles in the economy usually agree with US antitrust law companies that were used against anticompetitive companies that were modeled as monopolies/oligopolies but usually have not heard of monopsony. In the same way they were not truly a monopoly (there were still competitors), the low skill wage labor market also is not a pure monopsony.
9 hours ago, ViperMan said:It just seems to me that as you lower the wage you're willing to work for, the greater the number of potential employers becomes?
Read more into it beyond 10 min, it's not intuitive at first but it will make sense from a market principles perspective. I'll try here to explain it best:
You can't look at it individually, because the wage for the group determines the wage that gets offered. Say 100 people are willing to work for $5 an hour at Walmart or McDonald's at your local highway town. Now let's say 200 are willing to work for $8. The companies will not offer $5 to 100 employees and $8 to the rest, it must offer $8 to all 200 if it wants to hire all the employees. Let's say each employee makes them $8 dollars an hour. The competitive equilibrium in this case is 200 employees, but they actually make more profit hiring just 100 at $5 (+$300 excess profit). I'm using fixed revenue as apposed to marginal revenue for simplicity just to show how it works, hopefully that's clear enough. But the point is low skill labor markets would take advantage of the people willing to work for much less than minimum wage (which is even more true in immigration heavy country like US) to edge out a profit larger than they could have at the actual competitive equilibrium.
The reason I preface this argument with a self destruct option when employment lowers more than 3% is because I don't expect the general public to understand monopsony theory to justify minimum wage increases, and also because the research is not certain where that minimum wage should be. It will obviously break down at some point; in my example if the minimum wage is set at $9 it would actually lower employment. There is a limit to where it would not affect employment depending on local conditions, but my main point is simply to reject the notion that any increase in minimum wage always decreases employment.
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1 hour ago, ViperMan said:
My point wasn't that $0/hr was a just minimum wage for actual work. My point was that the unintended consequence of increasing the minimum wage reduces the employment level, thereby leading to layoffs, which in turn, pays $0/hr. You can't employ someone for $15/hr when the value they produce is only worth $10/hr. No website will ever convince me that math is wrong.
What're your thoughts on the monopsony theory of minimum wage for low skill labor? Would you consider a minimum wage increase law that self destructs if employment falls below 3% of what it was before law was passed? I fleshed this argument out in detail earlier if you do a search for "monopsony"
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19 minutes ago, Sim said:
Notice what's missing from this statement? Any mention of the Press. AP does NOT decide the outcome of the Election.
Of course, but at some point it becomes obvious with almost complete certainty. If the electoral votes somehow end up with Trump as the winner I'll be the first on here to accept that as the true result.
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41 minutes ago, Negatory said:
You think the government is absolutely inept and can’t accomplish anything, but at the same time you believe that 5+ states can all get away with massive, simultaneous, and complicated voter fraud on a scale that isn’t even within an order of magnitude of anything seen before. You believe this just because the president says it’s happening. Not Fox. Not AP. Not any normal news outlet, just the president.
Not to mention Clinton lost by similarly close margins in key states in 2016. What happened there? One of the most powerful and corrupt politicians at the time couldn't pull it together to 'find ballots' overnight? That race was also not called on election night. She lost Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania by .2, .7, and .8 percent. Fair and square.
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35 minutes ago, Seadogs said:
And what do you think is going to happen when months of "Trump will steal the election!" "Mail in ballots are safe/unsafe!" etc. come to fruition? You think Antifa will sit down? You think the right is going to watch an election get stolen?
I just don't think this will happen. ANTIFA isn't gonna do shit now that their boogeyman is gone, and the right isn't gonna do anything either. Nothing was stolen if everything was legal. Outside of a few fringe cases there will not be any evidence of systemic voter fraud. Trump will complain for a few weeks, lose court challenges and recounts, and ultimately concede (assuming Biden wins of course, which is very likely at this point).
If you want votes to stop counting right now in Nevada then Biden would be declared winner. I want Biden to win and don't even want that to happen, let the counting be finalized.
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39 minutes ago, Seadogs said:
Makes no sense that they have to wait days to count the vote though. It is eroding the Rights' faith in the security of a free and fair election. If Trump loses, it will be because of fraud. If Biden loses, it will be because Trump stole it. The narrative is set, the nation is about to see something crazy
It makes sense if you consider the facts. In Nevada for example they continue to count votes if they were post marked by election day until Nov 10. Other states have similar rules but aren't being talked about because it isn't a close race and the state is called. You could also argue setting strict deadlines like no counts after election day erode free and fair election if the mail was delayed for reasons outside the voters control, so it's always going to be a political issue that gets set at the state level. Btw in Pennsylvania it was a Republican state legislature that blocked the counting of votes before election day in Pennsylvania.
44 minutes ago, Seadogs said:The narrative is set, the nation is about to see something crazy.
Is this another bold prediction you are confident in? What do you think is going to happen? I don't think anything is going to happen outside of fringe protests and Trump complaining on Twitter.
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1 hour ago, Blue said:
I love this article. "To be clear, we're not going to have quotas. Instead, we're going to...........................have quotas."
To be fair, there's a big difference between saying that 30% of pilot slots are reserved for minorities and implementing recruitment policies that try to close the gap.
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7 minutes ago, Seadogs said:
Fox News needs to be dealt with for calling AZ like that. Does anyone know why they are stopping counting then restarting, stopping, etc? FL had 10 mil votes to count and did it well. Why are states with way less doing this and releasing it in batches? Makes no sense.
Yeah Fox shouldn't have done that. If Nevada gets called Biden which is looking more likely than Arizona then Fox is going to have to be the first to declare Biden winner.
In Florida they can start counting mail in ballots 22 days before election. Other states they have to wait until election day to start counting. They stop counting eventually to give the counters a break in these states, and one of many reasons it gets released in batches is because they get counted all together and then escorted to the clerk for the upload.
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On 11/2/2020 at 1:19 PM, Seadogs said:
See you tomorrow.
Do tell us more about this "landslide" you were so confident about
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2 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:
Absolutely. The first pirate president, and someone who actually can explain their position. And a hero. Landslide victory.
Yang vs Crenshaw. How nice would it be to vote for the greater of two goods for once.
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2 hours ago, Seadogs said:
Take a look at the "Primary Model" by Helmut Nortpoth. Hard numbers to defend his statistical model. Correctly predicted 25/27 presidential elections since 1912. Only missed 1960 and 2000 because courts got involved. Unless courts get involved this time then Trump will win.
It has predicted 4, not 25. You can't retroactively predict events with a statistical model and claim it as evidence of predictive power, that's classic overfitting. Even if Trump wins I doubt it's going to be with a landslide of that size.
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33 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:
What is wrong with it? Its an internet forum. You were logging into an internet forum. On politics. And you thought I needed to learn something. You are an idiot.
35 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:This is cringe 15 year old edgelord take on anonymous forums. We're just a bunch of bros trying to learn from each other's perspectives and spar a bit on our views, insulting people like you're doing hiding behind a screen is cowardly and embarrassing.
36 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:What I'm implying, idiot, is that you tards are constantly accusing white men of being bad, evil dudes with white privilege. We're not. We don't suck as at our jobs. You made that up, because you needed a leverage mechanism to lean on. That's what I'm implying.
Find one instance of this on this forum, I'll wait. Projecting is a common defense mechanism for an offended fragile ego though so not surprised.
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14 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:
Can folks on here read what jazz just typed? What is wrong with that? He's serving his country, providing for his family, and stated pretty dog gone clearly his political views. What is wrong with that?
Nothing is wrong with it? Did you honestly think someone on here would have a problem with that? You should read it too and learn how to express your views respectfully and with maturity.
14 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:He's not coming across as a bad, evil dude. He's not coming across as a white privilege person. He's coming across as a human being.
What are you implying here? Honestly.
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6 hours ago, FLEA said:
In general, police are exposed to far more risk than people in the military
And less than landscapers, roofers, fishermen, and truck drivers. The risk is exaggerated to support overly aggressive policing policies and unjust sentencing laws. In my opinion there are too many civilians killed to justify the current rate of risk. There should not be more unarmed civilians killed by cops than cops killed in the line of duty. The balance is way off when there are cases of children being killed. Training and policies need to change, even if that means an increase in risk of death/injury due to becoming a police officer.
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55 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:
Not one of you morons answered the question. I didn't expect anything less. Just insults. Good job. Thank you, liberals.
I thought getting triggered was a lib thing?
Look man, the only one name calling insults here is you, everyone else is either making fun of arrogant and denigrating parts of your post or responding to some of the things you said in good faith. If you ask genuine questions you will get genuine responses, as has been shown time and time again on this forum. Don't expect respect if you don't give it. Don't know how you haven't learned that one yet.
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22 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:
what do you stand for? What do you actually get up in the morning and think, if this went away, I'm doomed. Or if it goes this way, I've got it made in the shade.
I try not to base my world view solely on my self interest, but on what I feel will make the world a better place. Sometimes they overlap, sometimes they don't.
25 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:There are no HOAs.
Really got it out for them HOAs.
27 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:Males (definitely not men)
(Definitely not insecure about masculinity, now check out the muffler on my lifted truck)
29 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:I don't subscribe to that mentality or lifestyle. I think it is a shame.
I'm genuinely glad you found what makes you happy, but it's confusing to me why you care so much about what makes other people happy being the independent pioneer you are.
2 minutes ago, filthy_liar said:So, idiot responses. As expected. Good job.
Very mature of you to follow up on your post with more insults.
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The Next President is...
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Yes I know... the spike in Biden votes he is talking about after "counting stopped" is referencing a drop of 169,000 *absentee* ballots that were escorted to the Clerk at 4am.