jackstone104

I was told wait a full 8 weeks to hear ANYTHING or call back about VSP from the time AFPC officially received it after clearing all hurdles - meaning if any rejections whatsoever and resubmission it is the LAST day it arrived there fully valid that counts.

So as far as I can tell we are still ZERO for ### dozen for VSP, right?

So one thing I do not understand with regard to the guidance - If they are doing these in monthly batches and the guidance in the updated 14-08 says: "Commander: a. Must make a recommendation in the commander’s justification portion of the web-based on-line application no later than 1 May 14. Commanders must advise in the comment portion of the on-line application of any condition which exists that renders the applicant ineligible, i.e., officer is pending involuntary discharge, under investigation, under civil charges, or pending disciplinary action. b. No commander, supervisor, agency, unit, or organization is authorized to delay, divert or disapprove applications under this program." What is the definition of delay? If we submit today can he/she not take action until 1 May?

What if you are not eligible for TERA (ToS 6 - 15 years)? Of the two which PSDM form's IRR would you recommend to submit? Edit: NM Think I got it - PSDM 13-131 The FY14 FSB will consider officers in the grade of first lieutenant and captain in the 2009, 2010, and 2011 accession year groups (as computed by Total Active Federal Commissioned Service Date (TAFCSD) in specific AFSCs within the line of the Air Force. Additionally, the board will consider lieutenant colonels and below in the competitive categories, to include Biomedical Sciences Corps (BSC), Dental Corps (DC), Medical Service Corps (MSC) and Nurse Corps (NC) unless specifically excluded below. Eligible AFSCs are listed on the applicable matrix at the Force Management website; (https://myPers.af.mil/app/answers/detail/a_id/25484.) then click on the “FY14 Force Shaping Board” link. The board will also consider LAF-J officers with a date of rank to captain of 1Jan through 31 Dec 2009 (Bd ID L9914D), 1 Jan through 31 Dec 2010 (Bd ID L9914E), and 1 Jan through 31 Dec 2011 (Bd ID L9914F). Specific eligibility criteria are listed at Attachment 1. All board identification numbers are included in the table in paragraph 8 of Attachment 3. PSDM: 13-130 The CY14 RIF board will consider all officers in the grade of captain in year groups 2005 through 2008, and all majors in year groups 1997 through 1999 and 2001 through 2003 (as computed by Total Active Federal Commissioned Service Date (TAFCSD) in specified Air Force Specialty Codes (AFSC) in the line of the Air Force. Additionally, the board will consider captains and majors in the competitive categories of Biomedical Sciences Corps (BSC), Medical Service Corps (MSC), Nurse Corps (NC), Dental Corp (DC), and Medical Corp (MC) in year groups 1997 through 2008 unless specifically excluded below. Year groups vary for each competitive category. See the applicable matrix at the Force Management page on myPers The board will also consider LAF-J officers with a date of rank to major of 1 May 2010 to 31 March 2011 (Bd ID L0414G), 1 April 2011 through 31 May 2012 (Bd ID L0414H), and 1 June 2012 through 30 September 2013 (Bd ID L0414I). Eligibility criteria are at attachment 1. Board identification numbers for all boards are included in the table in paragraph 8 of attachment 3.

Is it not just the one in the Voluntary Separation Module drop down? It states "Voluntary Separation Pay Ready Reserve Agreement".

So, for VSP - the 'best possible' info we have right now for how to successfully submit a package is as follows: Access the vMPF via the AFPC Secure website. Select “Apply for Voluntary Separation”, and when prompted to “Select a Separation Provision”, select “SECAF Approved Early Separation Program”. Include “I am requesting to separate under the Voluntary Separation Pay (VSP) Program” in the remarks section. Possible also put in for extra coverage "FY14 VSP Program" The absolute earliest to apply is at Midnight (0000) CST on 6 Feb. The ONLY mandatory document to upload is the 3 Year IRR statement of understanding for VSP, if not TERA eligible likely PSDM 13-131, and if TERA eligible PSDM: 13-130? Based on monthly batches it is basically first come first serve with the likely following caveats: 1. No ADSC 2. ADSC/Bonus remaining (least to greatest) 3. Projected assignments 4. Commander's recommendation If you get rejected rapidly without an honest assessment, we think the best way to attack that is to call AFPC directly and ask to be reconsidered. We don't exactly know how the board is comprised for VSP and we don't exactly have the mechanics of CC signature approval to the next step. Should/can we badger our CC to sign ASAP? Is the mandatory counseling documented somewhere or just put in somebody's name that you work for after you've spoken to them about it. Final edit: it appears if not eligible for TERA, you still follow the procedures for VSP application instructions from 13-130 under the following - 4. VSP Application Instructions: Access the vMPF via the AFPC Secure website. Select “Apply for Voluntary Separation”, and when prompted to “Select a Separation Provision”, select “SECAF Approved Early Separation Program”. Include “I am requesting to separate under the Voluntary Separation Pay (VSP) Program” in the remarks section. Refer to the PSD Guide for application procedures and instructions at https://mypers.af.mil , then under “FSS Resources” select “Program Guides” and then select “View PSD Guide Listing”, then “Separations”. The Officer Voluntary Separation application instructions are listed in Section E of the PSD Guide. But there is no specific guidance for non-TERA eligible VSP applicants, which makes it unclear if the same Separation Provision above applies, IE SECAF Approved Early Separation Program - clear as mud...

That is my read on it too - that you can initiate an application just not submit it - but nothing is certain in this process. What I am trying to understand is what exactly happens after the CC submits it? I gather a board of sorts but it is unclear what the board is composed of and whether it is AFSC specific. I spoke to AFPC and they mentioned there was monthly batching process - implying that say for the first month all apps would be taken in and then say 1 Mar they would be considered for that 'rolling pool' of VSP considerations. Ergo, it is bucketed first come first served. That said, if there are 9 openings and 12 people apply, there has to be a process and the logic on this board suggests that the crappiest 9 get paid to get out while the top 3 (unless timestamps and being early actually matter more) get retained.