di1630
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Anyone know of a good place in the DC area to do a ATP check?
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Anyone else get hit on taxes because the ACP put them over the limit for ROTH IRA contributions? I am not tax savvy so wondering if anyone has a good idea for avoiding the penalty.
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I love how Robin Olds is the poster child for the new USAF sanctioned mustache March but absent is the real history behind it.
"It (mustache) became the middle finger I couldn't raise in PR photographs. The mustache became my silent last word in the verbal battles I was losing with HHQ on rules, targets and fighting the war. -Robin Olds
Count me out. I'll be damned if I'll take part in one more diluted "we are all equal" USAF tradition. 12 yrs was a good run but the new MM for me is not growing one at all and calling out the people who don;t even understand the real non-censored history behind it.
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You can't fight armor without air or artillery. The Marines don't carry much artillery to be fast and mobile so they take air.
I'd like tot see how the F-35B does vs armor with no AGM-65s and <200 rnds of 25MM.
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Today I laughed when I saw a unit safety rep posting a flyer on the safety board.....special interest item......Thrill rides not allowed. I was perplexed so I had to the fine print as to what a thrill ride was.
Apparently some dude morted himself by riding a motorbike at 100+ mph after smoking pot.
Thankfully the USAF has solved the problem with this ban that laws and common sense could not and there go my weekend plans. I only wish this ban had been in place to save that young military member before he smoked his joint and got on his bike because if he saw this....I know he would have obeyed.
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Take pics, put in a file and if you get passed over/career not where you want it, scream harassment and blame it on fighter culture racism.
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How does singing dirty songs, displaying Hooters calendars, listening to sexually explicit songs, using sexual innuendos or putting pictures of sexy women in your crew briefs (all at work) make you a better warfighter? Comment on how our tradition of glamorizing sex makes us better.
Liquid, I won't argue they make me a better warfighter...they don't. You need to understand that it isn't about the women or dirty language that is pissing everyone off.
Its the fact that the USAF is riddled with serious problems and leadership has gone full retard to stamp out things that anyone with a 69 IQ can tell is not really a problem and is just for show to the politicians. Instead of finding the real issues, the USAF has focused on fighter culture because it is visible.
You want some of the best/brightest officers to work 14 hour days, work on weekends and think you can get that by treating them like A1C dumbass? See where this gets you in a few years.
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Glad to see Liquid back with his view. Maybe I could send him some pictures and he could tell me at what level I should be sexually offended at the workplace so that I may as a leader pass my USAF learned sensitivity and subjective morality scale onto the enlisted guys/gals that work for me. Then I could figure out when I am supposed to be upset when I work out at the gym an see girls in tights or read an af.mil news article where they show bodybuilders.
Liquid, I work with many senior leaders who at least in the bar will admit this is CYA Bullshit and is hurting the service more overall than it is helping but their hands are tied and must enforce it. You seem to have bought into it what we are doing and how we are executing is right which worries me.
I just saw a list of actions and punishments against senior leaders during this with hunt and I was blown away with how far we have taken it. Makes me wonder who would want to even be a CC in this environment. I bet I could act more like a warfighter at the local knitting club than I can in the USAF.
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I went thru this knowing they would try to screw me. Lost a bunch of items due to water damage/mover admitted theft and I made a list of everything on a spreadsheet with new replacement cost. I mean everything....went to stores and took pictures of prices next to the new items. In reality, some of the items I would have given away for free. In the end my list totalled $4200, they offered around $3500 and I took it. If you think you are getting screwed keep fighting them.
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Liquid, coincidence, today my great uncle who is 99 years old and was a 3-star general (at one point a MAJCOM CC), fought in 3 wars, bailed out of 3 aircraft sent me this email FWD. I tell him stories of the USAF now and he barely can beleive it is the same service he once loved to be in. He was mostly a bomber guy and to this day he likes to give fighter pilots s#it. Give it a read, or maybe you read it before.
We used to go to the Officers Club or NCO Club Stag Bar on Friday afternoons to drink, smoke and swap lies with our comrades. Think about this when you read the rest of the letter below. What happened to our Air Force/Marines/Army/Navy/CG... (or Military)? Drinking then became frowned on. Smoking caused cancer and could "harm you." Stag bars became seen as 'sexist'. Gradually, our men quit patronizing their clubs because what happened in the club became fodder for a performance report. It was the same thing at the Airman's Club and the NCO and/or Top 3 clubs. Now we don't have separate clubs for the ranks. Instead we have something called All Ranks Clubs or community clubs. They're open to men and women of all ranks....from airman basic to general officer. Still, no one is there. Gee, I wonder why. The latest brilliant thought out of Washington is that the operators ("pilots?") flying remote aircraft in combat areas from their plush desk at duty stations in Nevada or Arizona should draw the same combat pay as those real world pilots actually on board a plane in a hostile environment. More politically correct logic? They say that remote vehicle operators are subject to the same stress levels as the combat pilot actually flying in combat. ----- REALLY...you're bull-shitting me, right !!!???
Now that I've primed you a little, read on.
There are many who will agree with these sentiments, but they apply to more than just fighter pilots. Unfortunately, the ones with the guts to speak up or push for what they believe in are beaten down by the "system." "Unfortunately there is a lot of truth in the following text - supposedly,
Secretary Gates had a force beating the bushes to learn who wrote this.... Where have all the fighter pilots gone? Good Question. Here is a rant from a retired fighter pilot that is worth reading: It is rumored that our current Secretary of Defense recently asked the question, "Where are all the dynamic leaders of the past?" I can only assume, if that is true, that he was referring to Robin Olds, Jimmy Doolittle, Patton, Ike, Boyington, Nimitz, etc.? Well, I've got the answer: They were fired before they made Major! Our nation doesn't want those kinds of leaders anymore. Squadron commanders don't run squadrons and wing commanders don't run wings. They are managed by higher ranking dildos with other esoteric goals in mind. Can you imagine someone today looking for a LEADER to execute that Doolittle Raid and suggesting that it be given to a dare-devil boozer - his only attributes: he had the respect of his men, an awesome ability to fly, and the organizational skills to put it all together? If someone told me there was a chance in hell of selecting that man today, I would tell them they were either a liar or dumber than shit. I find it ironic that the Air Force put Brigadier General Robin Olds on the cover of the company rag last month. While it made me extremely proud to see his face, he wouldn't make it across any base in America (or overseas) without ten enlisted folks telling him to zip up his flight suit, get rid of the cigarette, and shave his mustache off. I have a feeling that his response would be predictable and for that crime he would probably get a trip home and an Article 15. We have lost the war on rugged individualism and that, unfortunately, is what fighter pilots want to follow; not because they have to but because they respect leaders of that ilk. We've all run across that leader that made us proud to follow him because you wanted to be like him and make a difference. The individual who you would drag your testicles through glass for rather than disappoint him.
We better wake the hell up! We're asking our young men and women to go to really shitty places; some with unbearable climates, never have a drink, have little or no contact with the opposite sex, not look at magazines of a suggestive nature of any type, and adhere to ridiculous regs that require you to tuck your shirt into your PT uniform on the way to the porta-shitter at night, in a blinding dust storm, because it's a uniform. These people we're sending to combat are some of the brightest I've met but they are looking for a little sanity, which they will only find on the outside if we don't get a friggin' clue. You can't continue asking people to live for months or years at a time acting like nuns and priests. Hell, even they get to have a beer.
Who are we afraid of offending? The guys that already hate us enough to strap C-4 to their own bodies and walk into a crowd of us? Think about it. I'm extremely proud of our young men and women who continue to serve. I'm also very in tune with what they are considering for the future and I've got news for whoever sits in the White House, Congress, and our so-called military leaders. Much talent has and will continue to hemorrhage from our services, because wanna-be warriors are tired of fighting on two fronts - - one with our enemies, another against our lack of common sense.
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Feel free to question my arguments and perspective, but don't question how I lead because you don't know me.
di1630s remarks to me were ridiculously off base. I seriously question his judgment and ability to read people. I hope I run into him someday.
Liquid, its a message board so of course I don't know your background or experience unless you put it out there but my apologies if I hit a nerve. Maybe my assumptions were a bit uncalled for but in my defense, I've seen a ton of poor leader careerists put on rank well above O-6...most spouting the same lingo you do seeming out of touch with the commoner. Maybe you've run into me already. If you have, I doubt you ever heard an inappropriate comment or anything unprofessional.
Have you read the modern dear boss letter? Does it make sense to you that people leave the mostly highly regarded and sought after job (pilot) in the USAF even when we throw $$ in their faces? Have you ever heard the reasons? I hear em every day as I watch the USAF shed talent. "Sick of the stupid shit", "poor leadership" are probably most common. I could name many but most revolve around things leadership could change, hell not change, just leave alone......that is if leadership weren't so concerned about CYA measures, catering to the vocal minority and bowing to the Ultra-PC crowd.
Hacker summed it up well, no need to beat a dead horse. Thanks for engaging though.
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What do you think women in our Air Force want? Times have changed. You sound like the people I grew up with in Georgia that wished segregation was still around. Rebel flags and lynching black folk are our heritage! How dare some white hippy politician tell me I can't continue my heritage. I've heard that shit too many times. In the 60s, women weren't in flying squadrons, now they are. For too long they've been forced to either become one of the bros and tolerate things that offend them deeply or be ostracized and penalized. That's bullshit. Be man enough to evolve. You can still tell as many dirty jokes and look at as much porn as you want outside of work.
So using STS and 69 are male only things and comparable to lynching as heritage? C'mon dude, I know female pilots who talk dirtier than the dudes. Also, yeah, people need to conform to traditions and have some thick skin. how can I have an honest debrief if I'm woried the guy/gal is going to cry when I tell them their flight sucked. "Sucked" how dare I use that. This ultra-sensitive PC shit is overboard.
Catering to the weak is a losing investment. We are shedding talent to keep in the easily offended vocal whiners. Killing people and flying fast jets in REAL combat is not a puss game.
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You're missing the point. What needs to happen is for good dudes all over the Air Force to be positive influences on their peers. We don't need polarized hyper-sensitive martyrdom on either side of the issue. The vast majority of the Air Force has a pretty damn clear understanding of how to have morale in the squadron without crossing the line into harassment. The problem is the vocal minority that causes the pendulum to swing too far because it seems the message isn't being understood. It's the same shit in Congress. Instead of people just being ######ing reasonable in the first place, people have to take things to the extreme.
As for being offended, it takes a lot more dead babies than that to offend me.
Dude, if I can't have some fun and attack a dude I disagree with on BON, things have gotten gay. I mean really, a guy shows up spouting USAF one liners straight from PME books and says the USAF will be a better place without fighter pilot culture. Give me a break.
I grew up around retired pilots who boozed, sang and partook in debauchery. These guys were in their 60's, some had been POWs, fought in multiple wars, most had been flag officers. They inspired me to work hard so I too could some day fly planes and party like they did. Now the pansies with a ultra-PC corporate mentality are in charge....and they wonder why morale is low. It is because leadership like liquid is so out of touch with what the average pilot wants/needs to be happy in their job. They think just because filling squares and climbing the ladder is good for them, that shoudl motivate everyone else.
I just want to fly, be respected, treated like a professional and allowed the same heritage that was afforded in the past.
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WTF? That's what you've gathered from his posts. You're proving his points. While others have made some decent arguments about the issues at hand, that diatribe proves nothing except your opinion of yourself is not congruent with reality. I think liquid wants people to realize that it's possible to be both the ultimate badass, and consummate professional. The "witch hunt" has probably gone too far in many cases, but that's not to say the entire message is crap.
Just having some fun, with that being said I'll cave to your sensitivities as is expected in the USAF and delete it. Sorry I offended you
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Can someone explain to me how sexist and inappropriate sexual actions and language at work makes fighter pilots better at their job?
You are missing the point. Did boozing and growing a mustache make Robin Olds a better pilot? This is about traditions, fun, work hard/play hard, fun competition via verbal BFM being taken away because some chick who didn't earn her stripe threw the whole fighter community under the bus. And because all the leadership involved are at a level where they have traded their wings and balls to become politicians, ever in fear that not making their next star will lead them to the BX where they have to wear the USAF retired hat while knowing that nothing they did really fvcking mattered.
I'm tired of being treated like an 18 yr old amn basic. I did well enough in life to get where I am, I expect a little goddamn respect and not to be lumped in with every f-stick that actually causes trouble. Lastly, who is the USAF to preach morality and decide what is offensive and not?
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I am going to start using so to speak at times its does not make sense. Really gonna fry the minds of the politician shoe clerks when I give a wing briefing and throw a few blatant out with no innuendo whatsoever. F- em
Anyone know the source unit? Gotta be DM, Hill or Mountain Home given 12AF fighters.
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Heard today of a SQ/CC getting counseled for using 6-9 minutes. Also heard General Polumbo is on a warpath about "so to speak"...and heard there have been numerous CAF firings for some really small things so nothing surprises me.
I am going to make it a point to use so-to-speak when it makes no sense whatsoever to do so next WG audienceI get. Get those shoeclerk minds spinning they hear it it looking for connotation and there is none.
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See? Even the "disgruntled majority" (so-called) are taking the bonus. I rest my case.
Have a great Air Force week.
Lovin it!. I've done 12 years of flying a few fun deployments, no bad TDYs and have 3 more years of flying coming up and was going to stay in even if there was no bonus.
Just because I work in an orgnization that lacks in-touch leadership, common sense and if were a corporation would have been bankrupted years ago, does not make me disgruntled.
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You do not need to fear for the future of your beloved Air Force...it is in good hands.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'll sit back with my $225K and watch the shitshow awesome leadership continue.
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My ASD: 30-Jul-02
I've only lost about $256 as of Tuesday. When compared to $225,000. I won't complain.
Once you click the submit button you hack starts regardless of when you sign from what I saw. If you ASD was 30 July and you asked the app to be built 3 July you should get the full 225K
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The same goes for dudes whose ASD was between 1 Oct 2012 and the release, since they're limited by 20 YAS but weren't able to sign. For you, di1630, I estimate that cost you about $20K.
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$15,834 to be exact. What a shitshow. I get it, but I just read the ACP and nowhere does it really allude to that. Figured everyone in the same FY would get the same deal, and the ADSC would be the 20 YAS date period in FY21.
Warn the bros if they plan on signing, each day of delay is costing them $$
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Does it go off of the date you applied online on AMS? I am one of those that delayed about 2.5 weeks. No, I didn't think about each day costing me cash either.
Thats how the math worked out for mine..based off the day I clicked the button online. I'm a little pissed because according to what I can figure, the delay in relasing the ACP cost anyone who didn't start UPT after 26 June 2002 $69.43 per day. The website was down 2 days after release....boom goes $140.
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I plan on spending the 50% up front on land for a retirement home. But that all depends on us having a retirement at 20--which you know how that might pan out.
I think we are good for retirement but I expect to be grandfathered in this late.
I think the kicker for the bonus is that most people probably didn't understand that each day they delayed pressing the acceptance button cost them $69.43 per day UNLESS they are one of the few eligible for the full $225 who started UPT Jun 27 02 or later.
I was gong to stay in even without a bonus because my future work-for-myself business plans that do not include the airlines will be made easier with a retirement and healthcare.
This is free money for me so I shouldn't complain too much.
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This brings up some good points. I didn't see anything about proration and was wondering how that would affect me as well. My aviation start date was January 02.
I have only done the AMS application but haven't received an actual agreement to sign yet.
I will go take a look at the message again to see if it describes proration.
Just figured out the math. Accepted the agreement on 27 June....the only way to get the full $225K is to stay in until 27 June 2022 in my case.....but my 20YAS is up 9 Nov 2021.
So BL is the 9 year contract is based off acceptance date on the website.......which now brings me to question whether you can actually get the full $225K or if at 20YAS they say, thanks, ######-off, gotcha to sign.
In my opinion misleading, I figured that it was $225K period. Would have taken it regardless, I am just now groomed to expect shady shit from the USAF.
Why Not the B-1 Instead of the A-10?
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I don't think its a B-1 vs A-10. Something needed to be cut to pay for the shitshow we know as the F-35 due to congress and USAF leadership simultaneously screwing the pooch. But here are the facts:
1. The B-1 v A-10 CAS argument is flat out dumb. The B-1 can drop bombs in Afghanistan....it can't do CAS in many other scenarios effectively. Likewise the A-10 Can't launch JASSM, carry 30 JDAM or fly supersonic. You can't call the B-1 an attack platform or the A-10 a bomber.
2. Leadership is horrible at predicting future conflict. China/Russia....Probably not where we see action next.
3. Needed weapons. Again leadership has a poor history. Anyone read about the A-16? We need a balance of deterrent airframes (B-2, F-22, F-35) and ones that will do the work everywhere else (F-16, F-15E, A-10)
4. Contested environment? We talk as if radar threats are the only ones out there. AAA/manpads....Good luck F-35. The A-10 was designed to operate in an environment where speed and stealth aren't the important factors. Any legacy fighter is toast versus the newest SAMs, not just a hog.
5. Afghanistan has ruined the definition of CAS.