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Israel says the airstrikes had limited to no effect.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5232786,00.html
Also this:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics/us-syria-briefing-trump/index.html
Looks like Trump is going to back us out completely and hand Syria to Russia because, well frankly, he loves giving gifts to Russia as well as blocking any attempt to punish them for their actions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/16/us/politics/trump-rejects-sanctions-russia-syria.html -
4 hours ago, HeloDude said:
Are you suggesting that Obama never dropped bombs in Syria?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
For the record, I wasn't a fan of Obama's air strikes and I'm not a fan of Trump's air strikes.
I'm suggesting that Obama sought approval for strikes against Assad from Congress when Syria used WMDs against its people. I would like to think I'm limiting the scope of discussion by comparing apples to apples.
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I love the revisionist history going on in this thread.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/09/09/obama-congress-syria-vote-in-doubt/2788597/
Obama follows the Constitution to get Congress' approval for military strikes. Congress never backs the strikes so the strikes don't happen. Obama gets labelled as weak for not acting out in violation of the Constitution. Had Obama ordered the strikes anyways you guys would have been crapping in your diapers over the abuse of power.-
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14 hours ago, HU&W said:
Starting point is EO 12968. POTUS can add/delete/grant/etc as desired. Security is an executive (presidential) program.
Cheers. You learn something new everyday.
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18 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:
Two issues here:
1. Sitting in on TS/SCI meetings without a clearance is troubling....HOWEVER, the President of the United States is the ULTIMATE declassification authority...IF he approves the adminstrivia is meaningless. Is it a bad optic, absolutely...illegal, nope.
2. Lying or emitting details on an SF-86 - 100% a crime that should be punished.
if POTUS is the declassification authority, does that mean he declassifies the material or he waives the requirement to have a clearance to possess classified material? There's quite a difference between the two.
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2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:
How about when investigators find TS/SCI information on an unauthorized , unclassifed, and unprotected email server?
It should be dealt with appropriately. I said at the time had it been me, or anyone else I serve with, that was found with that we would currently be in prison.
How about when a son in law of the President sits in on TS/SCI briefings and meetings, and has access to TS/SCI materials for a year and a half but doesn't even have a clearance and lied or omitted things multiple times on his SF86? -
20 hours ago, tk1313 said:
You're really not a huge fan of any even-numbered amendment... 0/3 so far
I'm a huge fan of all the amendments. The presumption of innocence doesn't mean police shouldn't investigate crimes when evidence shows crimes may have been committed. When a detective finds child porn images on a suspect's computer, his/her impartiality towards the type of person the suspect is gets tainted. The judge and jury are the only ones required to be impartial at that point on.
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On 4/7/2018 at 7:25 PM, Lawman said:
show a whole lot of non impartial bias towards Trump, nothing touched by those matters taints the investigation.
Just as impartial as any other cop is towards a murder suspect when they've seen the evidence.
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On 4/3/2018 at 6:55 AM, tk1313 said:
For guard guys who have every intention to become full time after UPT and stay past 20, is BRS still something to look into just for the slim chance of something happening between my ADSC and 20 years?
Edit to add: I was very fortunate to have good mentors who told me to contribute early and what each fund (C, S, I, F, lifecycle) meant, so I'm roughly 2 years into my civilian job and already have almost $20k in my TSP account.Note that Title 32 technician program will most likely die in the next decade. NGB is converting 10% of Title 32 technicians per year to AGR coupled with the mandated Title 5 conversion until we get a 65/35 split between AGR and technician force. So in essence, being guard will look no differently than being active.
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20 hours ago, tk1313 said:
Weak as in pointless. I don't think a special counsel is needed to go after internet trolls. Personally, I think if Bill Clinton was President today and the Lewinsky story broke, people wouldn't really care nearly as much as they did back then. And I never said lying to the FBI shouldn't be punished, just implied that the actual lies aren't as groundbreaking as I would expect from a special counsel investigation. In your honest opinion, is the special counsel making great strides towards punishing those involved in "Russian meddling" in our election? And do you believe that the Trump campaign actively aided the Russians in said meddling?
Not needed, but if crimes are uncovered while investigating something else, should he have just looked the other way? Isn't it his DUTY, as a law enforcement officer, to lay charges for all crimes that have been found during an investigation... even if that specific crime wasn't the target of the investigation?
If you have 10 kilos of coke in the backseat of your car, and you get pulled over for speeding, should the officer ignore the coke and just write a ticket for speeding?
If you're being investigated for possible murder and they find evidence you launder money for the mob, should they ignore that because they were only looking at you for murder?
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On 3/20/2018 at 5:38 PM, Kiloalpha said:
There's a vicious irony in your stance on guns... and your profile picture. Just saying.
That's not a stance on guns, that's a stance of kids being killed in schools. There's a difference.
On 3/20/2018 at 10:34 PM, HeloDude said:They could have had that headline for 99.99999% of the schools that day.
Which is still less than 100%.
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38 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:
So today a good guy with a gun in a school stopped a bad guy with a gun in a school. Liberal skulls exploding everywhere.
Too bad the headlines didn''t read "No school shootings to report"
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On 3/12/2018 at 8:20 PM, otsap said:
Curious if you have a source for this as it would counter my knowledge of the subject. Under federal law, which I'm using since the discussion was about the Supreme Court and Constitutional rights, sexual orientation and age are equally protected. In other words, neither of them carry a suspect or quasi-suspect classification, meaning that they currently fall under rational basis review with regards to discrimination. There have been a few opinions by U.S. District Courts, and one Appellate Court, that indicated the possibility of quasi-suspect classification for sexual orientation, but nothing more.
State law on this issue is nice and all, but discrimination cases tend to bring up constitutional issues. That, combined with the Supremacy Clause, put these cases square in the federal court's wheelhouse.
Basing this on the fact that age, as a protected class (over 40), is only listed in the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 and not in the Civil Right Act of 1964 in which sex, race, religion, national origin are listed.
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On 3/8/2018 at 9:08 PM, HeloDude said:
Yet a cake company can't afford to not sell a cake to an extremely small segment of the population?
Totally agree on your last sentence.
I'm just making an assumption, of course, that the cake company is a small business with not a lot of profit margin. I also going on the assumption that alienating an extremely small segment of the population also alienates a larger segment of population that supports that community, and that could potentially be enough of a cut in business that they are no longer viable.
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20 hours ago, ClearedHot said:
It doesn’t matter to me, but for some religious beliefs trump profits. God Bless America.
MOST people start up a business to make money, not to preach their beliefs.
But to each their own. -
12 hours ago, HeloDude said:
The same reason why Dick's doesn't want more business...it's not like they're approving of school shootings, they would just profit from gun sales.
I imagine the sale of guns to 18-20 year olds is so small they can absorb that lost profit without even seeing a blip on the profit/loss sheet, whereas a small business maybe can't afford to alienate a segment of the population (and their supporters).
Regardless, no one should be FORCED to sell a product to someone else whether it be a cake, a gun, or a lapdance.-
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21 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:
It's not a Constitutional right to purchase a cake from any baker either.
You just destroyed the liberal argument to the Supreme Court that would force a Baker to make a cake for a homosexual couple.
The ruling later this year will have huge implications.
I agree. I don't believe the baker should have to sell to a homosexual couple if they choose not to, even though they are a protected class (and 18 year olds aren't).
The real question is why you, as a small business owner, wouldn't want that business? It's not like you're approving of their lifestyle, you're just profiting from making a cake. -
2 minutes ago, Zoom22 said:
Pretty indifferent but their case is going to be it's not a constitutional right that you can drive a car or rent a hotel.
It's not a Constitutional right to purchase a firearm from Dick's either.
It's the right to bear arms, not the right to force a sporting goods store to sell to whom they choose not to. -
13 hours ago, brickhistory said:
Dick's self-imposed policy to limit long-gun sales to those over 21 will surely make some under 21'er and his/her lawyer rich.
If the state/federal law is 18, then for a store to decide public policy is lawsuit bait.
But at least it wasn't about wedding cakes...
Yeah, that's why hotels and car rentals places get sued all the time for not renting to those under 21. Wait a minute...
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39 minutes ago, nunya said:
I suspect you're the exception. You assume your RA isn't out flying, or on leave, or they work 4x10s and it's Monday, and FM isn't at lunch, or in training, or it's after 1500.
Typically true, however just yesterday I needed an ATP day for one of my Airmen and our RA is on paternity leave. I called FM myself (at 1505) and requested a day be loaded. At 1509ish they called me back and said it's been loaded and the 105 can now be accomplished.
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On 2/22/2018 at 5:42 AM, brabus said:
According to the guys here, all funds are properly loaded, but AROWS is messed up, so we have to wait until it's fixed. Classic cross-finger pointing. Anyone had success with the updated AROWS?
I've had no issues with it. In regards to your AFTP day, your squadron's RA needs to contact FM and have them load the day to your squadron's account before you can certify it. It's typically a 2 minute fix.
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1 hour ago, nunya said:
Dick's pulled a similar stunt after Sandy Hook.
http://www.guns.com/2012/12/27/dicks-cancels-troy-carbine-pre-orders-troy-customers-irate/
Then undid it.
That's some serious conviction right there. They didn't sell them for a whole 9 months.
Fuck em.
To be fair, their Field and Stream stores are not the same stores as their Dick's Sporting Goods stores.
The Dick's stores never stocked them after Sandy Hook. Now they're taking them off the shelves of their Cabellas/Bass Pro Shop type of store. -
15 minutes ago, brickhistory said:
Hmmm, Democrat response to GOP memo disputes everything. For some, only those "facts" contained in one or the other are valid and the other "facts" are simply partisan talking points to score political points.
Kinda like a kids' argument, "No it's not." "Yes, it is."
But played with my money.
I am not amused.
edited to add: But not a word to the current Administration's actually releasing the opposition's memo, however redacted. Would've been mighty easy to keep it under wraps as a 'security' measure. But it didn't.
Trump's administration didn't release it. The HIC did after the they redacted it to make it not classified. As opposed to the Republican memo which was declassified by the President and then released.
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Cliff Notes:
- Steele Dossier played NO role in opening the Carter Page investigation. They began their investigation prior to even receiving it.
- The DOJ did in fact inform the court of the origin of the Steele Dossier.
- They accuse Nunes of deliberately misrepresenting the underlying FISA Warrant intelligence.
- Four different judge's approved FISA warrants including judge's appointed by Bush and Reagan. Multiple DOJ officials also approved the applications prior to the court even seeing them including Trump appointees Rosenstein and Boente.
- They actually started listening to Page after he left Trump campaign so the idea they were watching him to spy on Trump is absurd.
- Page has a long history with Russia going back to 2004 and was being actively investigated once before already in 2013. The FBI had even interviewed him in 2016 again prior to receiving the Steele Dossier. The Steele dossier was referenced in the application as corroboration of certain things, and not to independently demonstrate.
- A bunch of blacked out additional evidence with a bit in the middle noting Page lied to the HIC in his testimony in 2017 about meeting with Russian officials.
- It included the footnote that discusses the Steele dossier source which SPECIFICALLY STATES ..."The FBI speculates the the unidentified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign." Candidate 1 is Trump I believe.
- DOJ timely informed the court when the FBI fired Steele and why.
- The attacks on Bruce Ohr for knowing Steele/and his wife working for Fusion GPS are 100% baseless. He was not involved in the FISA process and disclosed his relationships in November 2016.
Basically Nunes and Gowdy lied whole cloth that the FISA warrant was primarily based on a news article and the Steele Dossier. Those were in fact the least used and most minor pieces of evidence and they picked them out specifically for that reason to discredit the investigation and lied about their use.
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The Next President is...
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Posted · Edited by Vertigo
It's no more sickening than publicly warning of missile strikes against Syria, waiting a week for Assad to empty out and evacuate facilities, and then proclaim "Mission Accomplished" for spending $90+ million to move some fucking rubble around.
Or firing your second National Security Advisor after he publicly expressed a hard stance against Russia.
Or firing your Secretary of State after he publicly expressed a hard stance against Russia.
Or shelving the Russia sanctions passed by Congress with near-unanimous support.
Or saying our UN ambassador was "confused" when she announced the US was thinking about additional sanctions against Russia for the Syrian chem attacks.
Or personally leaking critical intel from our allies to Putin's ambassador during a WH meeting, and also burning our source for said intel in the process.
Or firing the FBI director, and then publicly and openly admitting in an interview that he fired him over "the Russian thing".
Or repeatedly getting caught in lies about dozens of campaign contacts with Russians who have ties to the Kremlin.
Or having campaign personnel and your first National Security Advisor plead guilty for lying to the FBI over their Russian contacts.
At this point I don't know what it'll take for Trump's supporters to just acknowledge that this man is compromised, is a present and clear threat to the nation, and needs to be removed. It isn't a partisan matter. Pence is the successor and there isn't a single liberal who wants to see that hyper-religious zealot in the Oval Office. But it's better him than a possible traitor.