AFCS_Actuator

I'm a little confused. The major was not a flyer? It seems that it would be more expected from a non-flyer. The way you put it, it sounds like you're shocked that he wasn't aircrew.

I drive an hour through a mountain pass to my university/det every damn day of the week. It sucks, but it is cheaper than living near my school. The $400/month I get doesn't cover gas, but it helps. On the flip side, I got a scholarship and haven't had to pay a cent for my college education (read: no debt upon graduation!). Personally, AFROTC works for me. It is easier to get in, easier to get a pilot slot, and you can get your school paid for. OTS is hard to get into, your school does not get paid for (unless you've got the GI bill or something), and there aren't nearly as many pilot slots availible.

Man, this thread is like therapy! I can't stop laughing.

Scoobs, the answer to your question is 42. If that answer doesn't make sense, then perhaps you didn't ask the right question.

I puked my guts out this summer during a T-38 ride. I was sandbagging during a two-ship formation ride. I had not had a good night's sleep and showed up at the squadron not feeling too great. As soon as I step in the door one of the IPs asks me if I want to go on the flight. Of course I say yes. I'm not going to pass up a flight even if I wasn't feeling great. So anyway, we're about half way through the ride and I'm feeling pretty green. I'm not totally sure what was going on around me, but the student in the other jet was practicing rejoins or something. Then it hit me. I had the SA to go to cold mic and proceeded to puke for about twenty minutes. The worst was when we would go into a three or four G turn while my innards tried to jump out of my mouth. There was no need for a conscious effort at G strain! I was puking so hard that my legs were curling up towards my body even at multiple Gs. It was the suck. A couple of times I had close calls and had to close off the bag during moments of less than +1 Gs. After what seemed like an eternity, my IP said that we were done. I had recovered somewhat. The landing was a straight in, thank god. I was dreading a pitch out, but it didn't happen. As we landed I started feeling a little queasy again. It didn't help when we opened the canopy and got blasted with the 100 degree heat at XL. I sat there concentrating as hard as I could to keep whatever was left in my gut where it was. I had already filled up my barf bags. We pulled into our parking spot and the engines were shut off. As soon as the engines spooled down I pulled myself over the rail and puked down the side right side of the jet. I couldn't even get out first. Man that was a great ride! I've been fortunate to get 6 flights thus far. I've puked three of those times. I am proud to say that I've gotten all puke in the barf bags and I've always gone cold mic, so teasing was kept to a minimum. There was a recording going around of a cadet who had left his mic hot while he puked for what seemed like forever. That was funneh! [ 24. October 2005, 15:59: Message edited by: Goin2UPT ]

I got to play around with the FATS at Laughlin. It was a good time fore sure.

I don't know about getting the CSP high school scholarship. I do know that it is easier to get a scholarship once you've been in ROTC for a semester or two. It's call the ICSP (In-College Scholarship Program). I've seen lots of cadets at my det get this for non-tech degrees, myself included. Just because you don't pick up a scholarship out of high school doesn't mean you're SOL.

Wow. I've read all of this thread and the other "Deid" thread. Please Lord, strike me down if I ever behave like those I have just read about. Amen.

Ask your cadre.

Thanks for the info. I had a personnel officer tell me that if my wife was a GS employee at base X and then we had to PCS to base Y she is guaranteed another job at base Y. Is there any truth to that?

Give me a break. What do you consider being "well-rounded"? I agree, 6 hours on the phone is prett stupid, it's called delegating, right? ROTC is the place to learn good work ethic and the Core Values. Some cadets do take ROTC too seriously, but some don't take it seriously enough.

Are any of the spouses here General Schedule types? I would like information about how one gets hired as a GS-"x" and what kind of jobs are out there. Thanks.

Besides, once you're full-up AD you'll get to see the world anyway. Well, at least the sandy parts of the world. There will be time to go chase Eeuropean girls after college. I'd go with Jetjock on this one. [ 21. July 2005, 01:38: Message edited by: Goin2UPT ]

Were all of the studs and the IP in question from the Academy? Is this the "cultural" issue you guys are talking about? I heard they were all from the zoo, but I want to know if I got fed a BS line.

I've never heard of any ROTC cadets doing (sts) an exchange program. My guess would be no, but that's just a guess.

///// Yup. The cadets that do the above get to be pilots or they get their first choice AFSC usually. [ 19. July 2005, 11:58: Message edited by: Goin2UPT ]

You'll find a lot of things are optional in ROTC. There are four things that aren't optional. They are: AS class, Lead lab, PT, and field training. Everything else, for the most part isn't required. With that being said, the guy who never participates in ROTC functions or extra stuff is going to be pretty low on the totem poll as far as class rank. The more you participate the more you'll stand out. The more you stand out as a good cadet the higher you will be regarded by the cadre and commander. The higher you are held the better chance you have of getting that scholarship or pilot slot or whatever it is you want. The moral of the story is be active in your detachment. As far as POC jobs there are lots. If the cadre or cadet wing staff can think of a job it will be put on the org chart. It gets ridiculous sometimes. The main ones you want to get are flight commander, squardron commander, group commander, etc. If the title includes the word "commander" it is a good thing.

Not me. GMC was boring. There was no responsibility, little in the way of leadership opportunities/training, etc. Perks aside, being a POC is much more interesting than GMC could ever be, imo.

/// only with gov't license IIRC. Like RWaller said, concentrate less on the "privledges" you get as a POC and more on how your role in the detachment will drastically change. You will work much harder as a POC than you ever did as a GMC. IMO, the valuable ROTC training really begins at the POC level. That being said, one of the first things I did when I got back from FT was buy some Hi-Tec Magnum boots and Bates Coroframs. :D

What is PIT? Instructor training?

HAHA! My favorite part was when the old dude said that the ground controler got on the radio, "Don't let that plane leave! There aren't any pliots!" "So," the old man says, "I just jumped the chalks." Comedy Gold.

/ HA / Good one!

Don't worry. I think that everyone will remember "who" originally made that statement.

We had a dude who was done. He got his degree, but got a D in the AS400 class of his last quarter, which the Colonel taught. He was going to UNT. Kicked out, no enlistment. Don't get senioritis!

As a SERE instructor put it to me, the AF just spent a buttload of cash putting you through UPT. They're not going to do anything to you that will damage you to the point of not being able to fly.