LJDRVR

Go choke myself? No thanks. Such anger and disgust! Let's take a look at what I originally posted and examine your poor reading comprehension. Originally posted by LJDRVR: The attempted murder charge won't likely stick, but this moron is going to spend some time in jail with a felony conviction. You cannot go around assaulting people so badly they end up in the OR and leave the scene on top of it. What a stupid way to lose your freedom and Air Force career. He's lucky the guy survived. I claimed the attempted the attempted murder charge wouldn't stick. a sentiment it appears most folks agree with, my guess is yourself included. I also posited that he would likely spend some time in jail for a felony conviction. (I also called him a moron, more on that in a minute.) I'm no lawyer and didn't stay in the Holiday Inn Express last night, but it would seem to me if you get intoxicated at a bar and involve yourself in a physical altercation to a degree that you opponet ends up in surgery, without self-denfense being involved, you're probably going to spend some time behind bars. Here's the part folks seem to be up in arms over - you should. I said what a stupid way to lose your freedom and Air Force career. You disagree? I said he's lucky the guy survived. Again, you disagree? So why are you upset with me? For calling the guy a moron? For not abiding by the maxim of innocent until proven guilty? I spoke my mind and I stand by everything I wrote in those sentences. You can read into it whatever you want if it makes you feel better. One cannot go around shoving, hitting or otherwise assaulting others, unless somebody is in danger of bodily harm from the victim. If that was the case here, I doubt the police would have charged him as quickly as they did, with the crime they stipulated. We can sit here and point fingers at the civilian justice system, but my experience is that system is predisposed towards providing military offenders with much more wiggle room than civilians. You can assault somebody for "disrespecting" another if you like, hell if it was my wife our daughter, I would not act with a clear mind. But if you do take the law into your own hands, you'd better be prepared to face the consequences of your actions. My attitude is a great example of what's wrong with this country? You lack the reading comprehension to even begin to understand what my attitude is, but thank you nontheless for your thoughts. LJDRVR

Good points Steve, my guess is that he gets charged with a lesser class 1 felony. I would imagine a lot of it will hinge on what witnesses overheard him say and the precise manner in which the shove occurred.

Is it trumped up? I googled the definition: In criminal law, attempted murder is the crime of more than merely preparing to commit murder and at the same time having a specific intention to kill. Acting deliberately and intentionally or recklessly with extreme disregard for human life, the person attempts to kill someone, and does something that is a substantial step toward committing the murder. Mere preparation is not a substantial step toward committing a crime. Depending on what was said before, during and after the crime, I'd say he's fair game.

The attempted murder charge won't likely stick, but this moron is going to spend some time in jail with a felony conviction. You cannot go around assaulting people so badly they end up in the OR and leave the scene on top of it. What a stupid way to lose your freedom and Air Force career. He's lucky the guy survived.

Here's a suggestion for anybody who knew the mishap pilots. Write a short paragraph or two describing your interaction with them. Tell a bit about their personality and the good traits they possesed. Nothing fancy. Just a little something that their kids and/or family can read now or in the future. I'll get the next of kin address within the next 24 hours.

Anybody interested in going to the service for Blair Faulkner, here's the specifics: PLACE Highland Baptist Church 219 Simpson Florence, AL LUNCH Monday 28 April 2008 1100 CDT SERVICES Monday 28 April 2008 1300 hrs. CDT If you knew Blair and are not local but are CONUS and cannot afford the airline ticket and want to go, drop me a PM, you can use one of my buddy passes.

Blair was a pilot here at Continental Airlines, on Military leave as a reservist. He was very highly thought of by all the folks that knew him. Thoughts and prayers with his family and friends....

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Pretty sad. Well-intentioned (for the most part) kids, whose idealism and desire to do something good has been corrupted by egotistical, self-serving adults who, given their level of education, ought to know better. The ironic thing is this: If those protesters really wanted to do something for peace in the world, if they really wanted to be part of a solution and serve their fellow humans, they should walk right in and raise their right hand. Of course I've been brainwashed by the guv'mint war machine!

I just watched her audition. Too bad, nice girl. She was nervous, but like M2 says, they've taken much worse than that. Now she can concentrate on putting food on the table with stick and rudder. Besides, she couldn't have had a chance. I mean with all that top-flight talent in Tops in Blue....

Sounds over the top, but here's a perspective from somebody who spent a few years in the shoes of the lower ranking enlisted person: Bring it on. Group punishment and humiliation suck while you're doing it, but reinforce that we are a military, there are standards, and God help everybody on the team when the standards aren't met. That so-called public humiliation was an exercise in leadership and accountability that nobody present will soon forget. It sends a strong message to all. The offender knows he screwed up, his peers see what following his example will get them. The NCO's mindset and backbones are reinforced, and the Commander has very clear and unambiguous marching orders for how to deal with this particular piece of excrement, AND exactly what sort of tone and culture his boss expects. The only thing missing from the equation is a huge dose of physically exhausting PT and/or drill.

Very pretty young woman with a great voice. I'll take off my pilot hat and put on my jazz critic hat, with the disclaimer that I can't carry a tune. Very good singing. Her vibratto is a bit stange though, she's starting it early in some phrases and using it on some shorter notes than sounds correct. You can hear it on "I Remember You" and "Summerwind". Her rendition of "Cry Me a River is very nice. I hope her career and reputation both survive her involvement with such a stupid television show. The genre' she's attempting to break into is probably the hardest nut a singer could attempt to crack. With Ella Fitzgerald and Sara Vaughn, not to mention current artists like Diane Reeves, what's she going to bring to Jazz that hasn't been covered? (Very well, I might add.) Her voice has an excellent quality to it, but she lacks an instrument, which like Diana Krall or Eliane Elias, might make her more marketable. I could easily see her in the mold of Thierney Sutton or Karyin Allison. She's better looking and younger than both of those women also. A couple of years of performing and her voice could be world-class. This brings up an interesting question, how many aviators on this board are dyed-in-the-wool jazz afficianados?

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I'm having the same problem.

Welcome to the airline world. Just substitute PIC for AC and you're in business. Like it or not, with oil at $100 a barrell, you guys, like your airline bretheren, are going to be seeing more and more about this. My company routinely operates from Houston to Anchorage with a 737-800. We don't have the fuel to do it legally, so they file to a geographic fix about two-thirds of the way up there, from whence if your numbers are good, you're legal to continue. The way to approach a culture of moron bean-counters involving themselves in the mission-planning aspects of things while maintaining your sanity AND your command authority is simply this: Take the attitude that it's their operation. If they want to flight plan you with fuel over destination at the legal (but safe) minimums, so be it. You'll have little gas for holding and they'll pick up the tab. Use your experience and authority to add gas when needed, but if they want to take options away from you, they'll suffer the consequences. (One turn in holding, BINGO and off to your alternate.) Whenever I hear that somebody is out to degrade the AC/PIC's authority, I always think: nobody is taking away a bit of my authority unless I let them. Good solid airmanship will always be exercised in the cockpit, and if they don't like it they can try to get rid of me.

Not true. Most Herc guys show up with an L382 type rating on their certificate, equally useless on the civilian market from a fly-that-airplane standpoint. Type ratings do show however, that the individual has qualified as PIC on a transort category aircraft - a skill the airlines llove to see. (Along with UPT, it shows you're trainable.) I was at our airline's training center today, an interviewee was in the lobby. I took a moment to wish him luck. Real nice guy; turns out he's an fighter pilot who had flown a tour or two with the his service's aerobatic demonstration team. I kind of felt bad for the guy when he found out I was an enlisted shoe-clerk type, you know he went home to his wife and told her "Jeez! Continental Airlines will hire anybody!

Years ago when I was running an FBO, we had an aviation art dealer renting space in our pilot shop. She had a big sign that read: Aviation Art: it doesn't have to match your sofa.

It may not be all the Honor Guard does, but conducting funerals at Arlington is the meat and potatoes of the unit. As far as the other stuff is concerned, what's gay about occasionally standing on the South lawn of the White House and providing an overwhelming impression of strength and power to a visiting head of state? I can understand everyone's misconceptions. Previous exposure to some ROTC drill-team or overzeleous Base Honor Guard member opening doors at the O'club make it easy to see where the stereotype came from. If you ever got a chance to see those folks perform their primary mission, or spend some time talking with their people, your feeling would be changed. HD- Glad you got a chance to present the flag once. Amazing experience wasnt it?