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  1. Hunter Rose

    Retirement / Separation Considerations

    The official Date of Retirement (DOR).
  2. Seems like HAF finally realized pilots don't want to accept additional ADSCs. Maybe now they'll apply that outlook to the bonus and we'll see increased compensation in the from of Professional Pay without huge ADSCs. Here's hoping.
  3. Quite frankly, HAF needs to get off its ass and start throwing money at the problem. Pilot losses are starting to go exponential. We had a net loss of 124 pilots in FY17...in FY18 we had a net loss of 227 pilots...that’s almost double the amount walking out the door in a single year. All the flowery speeches and Aircrew Retention Task Force efforts on QoL improvements have utterly failed. Why not at least try solving (or at least easing) the problem with money?
  4. Maybe these abysmal take rates will actually get HAF to take an actual look at compensation, like the rumors of Professional Pay I have heard at MAJCOM. Two years of saying "it's not about the money" and yet all the Aircrew Retention Crisis Task Force's efforts in quality of life/deployments/additional duties have done absolutely nothing to slow the loss of pilots. We'll have the same approximately 150 pilot net loss for the year. Everyone I know who goes to the airlines mentions two things: tons of money and free time. So to act like money plays no role and completely ignore it has been idiotic by HAF.
  5. Hunter Rose

    Pilot retention in your neck of the woods?

    My point you kind of proved with your story. The LTs voluntarily signed and therefore agreed to the additional ADSC. Those like you who did not sign did not get the additional ADSC. The AF can't MAKE you sign a legal document agreeing to an ADSC. If the board didn't correct your records that's when you go to the IG or log a Congressional complaint with your Congressman etc. I'm not ignorant at all to AFPC and lack of trust, but that has been the AF and rest of the military for for the last 40+ years, sounds like people bitching after the fact because they refused to take a stand.
  6. Hunter Rose

    Pilot retention in your neck of the woods?

    So how does one get screwed by the AF with an additional ADSC? Just don't accept the ADSC if you don't want it. They can't force you into an ADSC, you have to agree/sign for it. Just say no I do not accept the additional ADSC and will not upgrade. Why all the histrionics?
  7. Curious when they will start releasing the AvB take rate percentages since last year they had them up monthly on RAW. I imagine the downward trend will continue. This makes me think we will actually see a Professional Pay proposal in FY19 since USAF already has a net loss of 149 pilots from FY17 (about the same net loss they had the two years prior). Clearly the bonus and other retention initiatives are having zero effect, and the downward trend continues.
  8. Hunter Rose

    Retirement / Separation Considerations

    You can apply no earlier than 12 months out and no later than 4 months out from your requested retirement/separation date.
  9. Hunter Rose

    Retirement / Separation Considerations

    Your bro may have been screwed in the past, but that is not what the current AFI 31- 2110 says. As of 26 Jan 18, Table 5.2. 365-day Extended Deployment Declinations/3-Day Options states if you have 19 yrs TAFMS as of notification date or RDD of a 365 you may request a retirement and opt out of the 365. AFPC could deny your retirement request and send you on the 365 but you are not getting separated instead of retired. After 19 yrs TAFMS your two options are establish a retirement date or AFPC denies your retirement request and deploys you. If you have less than 19 yrs TAFMS as of notification date or RDD of the 365, you may request separation and if approved would not get a retirement. (Forgive me I quoted above Figure 5.2 instead of Table 5.2 that replaced it.) As for getting out as soon as you can no argument there. Bottom line, until you have an established retirement date the power to let you retire or deploy you is still the AF's decision.
  10. Hunter Rose

    Retirement / Separation Considerations

    So read the regs again. Confirmed my view that Personnelists/A1 are blood sucking scum who deserve public beatings. Thanks for making me learn something. The retirement reg AFI 36-3203 refers you to 7-Day/3-Day Opt Out rules in AFI 36-2110.. It seems having 19 years TAFMS as of the mo/year of the ASD Assignment Selection Date is the kicker (not your official notification date). If you have 19 yrs TAFMS as of ASD you can 3-day opt out of the 365 and apply for retirement. If less then 19 yrs TAFMS you can 3-day opt out but only apply for separation. Same thing for PCS selection, but then it's 7-day opt out rules. So basically AF can select you for a PCS that incurs a 2-year ADSC at 17 yrs 11 mo TAFMS and your options ar to separate and get no retirement or accept the PCS (and an extra 1 to 1.5 yrs of service) to get a retirement. So basically the AF owns your ass until the day you hit 19 yrs TAFMS. Bastards.
  11. Hunter Rose

    Retirement / Separation Considerations

    Personally, I’ve grown tired of the “not deal with terrorists” line from leadership and AFPC. Maybe if they dealt with “terrorists” a little, we wouldn’t be 2K pilots short.
  12. Hunter Rose

    Retirement / Separation Considerations

    Where are you getting this from? Got a reference? I reviewed the active duty separations/retirement reg a week ago since my ADSC expired and was curious about my options. It still has all the 7-day opt verbiage for assignments as well as deployments. All the verbiage was still there that if the planned deployment days plus 30 takes you past 20 years you can establish a separation date in lieu of deploying. I’m not saying you are wrong (it wouldn’t be the first time big AF ignored what the regs actually said or maybe there is some other AFI I missed) but what you are saying does not agree with what I read in the AFIs .
  13. Hunter Rose

    What's wrong with the Air Force?

    Whatever Nav... I kid...I kid...😁 I've got no beef with WSO/CSOs getting extra compensation, I just don't think it's a very efficient use of funds that really help total force retention numbers. WSOs/CSOs are leaving for the Reserve/Guard, so they are still serving in some capacity. Pilots are leaving for the airlines, completely leaving the total force. As I mentioned at the end of my post you quoted, I think they AF should get rid of bonuses and increase flight pay or offer pro pay like doctors. The AF is offering chump change in bonus money. If you're offering chump change and trying to retain people on the cheap, it would be more efficient to just eliminate bonuses altogether and institute aircrew professional pay or just up the flight pay. Make flight pay at 10 years to $3K-4K for all aircrew or offer $2K-3K a month in pro pay at 10 years. It would send a solid message that aircrew are valued, that leadership is attempting to actually retain people, and not really cost the AF much more than they currently have allocated.
  14. Hunter Rose

    What's wrong with the Air Force?

    The cynical part of me agrees that the expanded WSO bonus was just to make the "Aircrew" retention numbers look better. However, at some point they still have to talk pilot numbers. The messaging from SECAF/CSAF has repeatedly talked about a 2K pilot shortfall, not aircrew. So reporting, "Hey Congress, bonus takers are up, our retention plan is working!" doesn't work because the pilot shortage is still 2K. This next won't be popular, but the WSO takers are mostly guys who were going to 20 anyway as mentioned above. It's also not like there is an equivalent lucrative civilian job like the airlines. Personally I think the WSO bonus should have just been added onto the pilot bonus to make it a $60K pilot bonus. You might actually get some pilots to stay for that money. An even better idea would be to just get rid of all these stupid bonus offers and just give pro pay like doctors. Give an extra $3K a month to all aircrew as part of their pay. That would go a lot further to making the entire crew force feel appreciated.
  15. Hunter Rose

    What's wrong with the Air Force?

    The McCain excuse is nearing an end, if not already there. McCain had decades of service, but his time is at an end. If the AF brass really wanted to push for more money for pilots, they could do it again. McCain doesn't even vote anymore due to his illness. The party line is still that a $35K pilot bonus is enough. It will be interesting to see the take rates when they start coming out. The will be abysmal and continue the trend of being lower than the previous year's take rate.
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