I've searched some of the ANG unit websites and I couldnt find out if they wanted any extra documents for prior-service applicants. I assume that they dont but I didnt know if any of you enlisted guys sent in performance reports or anything. Thanks for your time.

Hey man, I put an appendix at the end of mine. It contained various hero letters and if you wanted, could include performance reports if you really wanted them to see them. I would only put a few in though... I made color copies of awards and inserted them also for validity. IF THEY SAY THEY ONLY WANT XYZ THOUGH, ONLY GIVE THEM XYZ!

Lata

***214 Doesn't hurt as well showing the proof vs reports/medals/and whatnot!

I assume that 214 is record of discharge?

Originally posted by highflyin:

I assume that 214 is record of discharge?

Yes...DD214

I put my 214 in there as well as my official military photo and my EPRs.

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I have heard different answers on this question and want to get it straight. Do you have to be enlisted in ANG for at least a year before turning in a pilot application? If it varies from unit to unit, here are a couple of units I thinking about: 144thFW, 162ndFW, 173rdFW. I would really appreciate any feedback.

No. Anyone can submit an application. The unit will filter those they do not wish to consider.

Don't know anything about FW's way of doing business, but most of the UPT selectees I was commissioned with and went thru UPT with were non-prior service. My unit does not require prior service, eventhough it does help.

HerkBum-

I interviewed with you guys last year. I heard that one of the people the unit hired was the niece of Dolly Parton, and that she wore an Airman's Uniform to the interview even though she wasn't enlisted. Is there any truth to that? I remember seeing a girl there who fit that bill while we were sitting around, and she definitely had a lot of brown on her nose. Just curious. I am wondering if I need to start lighting fires under my relatives to get them famous so it'll help my future out. The people were extremely nice at the unit. Thanks!

As of last year when I was putting out apps....Prior Service required at

144th - No

162nd - Yes

173rd - No

Seems like it changes at many places from year to year depending on the quality of the in house applicants. Calling is the only way to get the real low down.

The 144th just started interviewing non-priors a few years ago. I believe the last board still interviewed about 90% from within the unit.

I was sent packing from Marine Corps OCS a while back. The situation was that I was pretty much sick the whole time. Started off with pnemonia and never really got better after that. In fact I passed out like three times due to fatigue. Saw the docs there and they say everything is normal. Anyway, my leadership scores from tests and events went down hill due to my broken body. They eventually sent me home due to these failings. I was not medically dropped, but was given the full recommendation to re-apply to Marine OCS by the colonel himself. After thinking alot, I don't think I am cut out to be a ground-pounder; I'd rather fly for the Air Force. Does my prior OCS elimination negatively affect an application for AF OTS or ANG? Thanks for any insight.

Find your DD785 or USMC equivalent. That details the reasons for disenrollment from officer training. Take that to a recruiter and go from there. If it says good things, you should be good to go.

Yeah 785 is the form they use if you are disenrolled from an officer program and go to another. I'm not exactly sure where'd you have to go to get that, but I'd start with the local OSO, they should be able to point you in the right direction.

Gooneybird, your elimination does not affect your future with the AF or ANG. I was in the exact same boat. I went to OCS in 2000 and recieved an NPQ with an invite back and am now in the ANG with a Nav slot. Best of Luck.

Hi guys I have a question thats been nagging at me. How possible is it to get a pilot slot in the ANG or AFRES without an AD transfer or prior-enlistment. I am willing to get a PPL and study hard but I want to know from the personal experience of you guys and people you know how possible it really is. ( I plan on having and M.D. and apply for a pilot slot before i do my residency.)

Difficult: Extremely. Impossible: No. Remember you have to ENTER training before you are 30.

Search function will answer most of your questions...

Helix,

It's possible. Out of the 7 students that are Guard/Reserves in my husband's UPT class, two are non priors. One of them majored in aviation in college though and the other one is my husband. The five others joined their local guard/reserve units and got to know the units, then applied to the pilot boards.

No one can tell you if you should join up or not, that's a big decision. But I will say, the more you bring to the table the better your odds of being selected go up. But I have to say it is not impossible, yes difficult, to get hired as a civilian off the street. Good luck!

Not impossible in any way. Just had a selection board at my base for two primary slots and one alternate. All three chosen were non-priors. So you definitely have a chance.

KC is right on. Get all of your ducks lined up and start applying to where you want to be.

EDIT: For clarification.

[ 25. August 2006, 10:38: Message edited by: Mach2 ]

Depends on the airframe, but no it's not impossible.

Originally posted by trailmix:

Difficult: Extremely. Impossible: No. Remember you have to ENTER training before you are 30.

Search function will answer most of your questions...

Originally posted by PCL Retard:

Depends on the airframe, but no it's not impossible.

No where near "impossible." In my unit, I would say that 4 out of every 5 new guys are non-prior guys straight "off the street."

In my limited experience with Guard units, it seems that they are somewhat more clicky and are more likely to hire an prior enlisted guy, but I can think of several examples of guys coming off the street into guard units as well.

Bottom line - it is not impossible, or even difficult for that matter, to get sponsored for a guard/reserve slot as long as you are qualified, interview well, and are liked by the squadron. Of course, it helps if you have flying experience such as a PPL when you apply.

Good luck, and PM me if you have any other questions.

from what i have heard from a close friend finishing up UPT, the guys who get hired "off the street" were civilian airline pilots with a couple thousand hours. i dont want to urinate on this dudes parade, but id say the chances of just getting a PPL and getting hired without enlisting in the unit or coming from AD are pretty remote. just my $.02

I'm not an airline pilot, definitely don't have a few thousand hours.

I do however have 250+ hrs, Commercial AMEL ASEL w/ instrument, a degree (almost) in Aviation with a high GPA, and good afoqt/pcsm scores. I was hired off the street by the NHANG.

Bottom line is, if you come off the street, you need to put together a really good package and interview very well. I am proof that it's definetly not impossible.

Not applying makes it definitely impossible. If you want it, work hard and go for it.

Good luck!

It's defiently possible....I got hired from my local unit a few months ago. They interviewed 10 people and selected 4. Of those 4 only 1 had prior experience, and no one was an airline pilot.