Ram Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Say I wanted to walk over to the friendly SF shack and qualify on the M-9. Anyone know how to go about this or any details? Specifically, is it limited to those deploying, or can anyone just walk over and get it done? Also, what are the requirements for qualifiying / marksman? I'm full of questions 'cause I've been shooting now for about a year with my H&K, and I want to make it official that I know how to shoot. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Talk to your training folks, they should be able to hook you up with M-9 training. I thought everybody had to be qual'd anyway, is that just overseas? The fun thing here is that we can get training through my boss' personal security detail, so it's more than just M-9s... Cheers! M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 It depends on your squadron. The M-9 qual is a mobility issue - if you are on mobility status you need to be qualified. Since I'm currently an FTU instructor, I don't need to be qualified, but keeping me qualified would make life easier if all of a sudden it was decided I had to deploy (many 4FW FTU instructors deployed at the kickoff of OIF). In general there are only a limited number of training slots per squadron, but if your training guy can get you one (as M2 mentioned), then it's fairly easy to take the class. I believe the qualification now lasts 30 months to re-align with the AEF shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest driftsight Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 To qualify for marksman: At least 30 of 36 rounds in a 12 inch circle at center mass on a rough human sillouette. You'll shoot a few rounds each from, let's see if I remember..., 7, 15 and 25 meters respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lovelacm Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Uhm... It actually just changed... now there are head shots involved and you fire 90 rounds instead of just 60. Dammit.. just did that about 2 weeks ago. Someone else shoot recently? I'll think on it. Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rumblefish_2 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 If you're in training you probably won't shoot until you get to FTU. Here they won't cut your orders to your first assignment until you are M9 qualed. May be different at other FTUs. Also, we shot a couple of weekends ago and it was still 30 out of 36 with all bullets on the paper. Guess AETC is lagging as usual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AV8NSP Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Linda's right..AFQC changed with the AFI that was released earlier this year. Amazing that AETC isn't on board, but the guard is! The new course is awesome--much more realistic than the old center mass deal. Pretty easy to get the E on this one, but then again I was an SP for 7 years ;) Anyway, for most MWS's, I think M-9 qual is a requirement for your mission qualification. If no one in your traning shop can hook you up, call the CATM guys at your local SP shop, and they'll probably be more than happy to oblige. If you've qualified before, it should be no big deal. THere might be a little resistance if this is your first time, because flight crew are considered Cat C shooters (36 months between quals now, I'm told), and that requires a full academic class prior to going out to the range. But, a properly placed case of beverage has been known to help...Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Remy1492 Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 i recall the m-9 qual to be good for 2 years , ours in amc are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Side note: I'm going to qual on the M-4 next week. Being an ALO isn't all bad. I got offered the chance to learn how to kick in doors and clear rooms with Army Scout teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest croftfam Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 M-9 and M-16 for us! Last I heard for us it was a year and a half. Rotorhead is probably a better person to answer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AirGuardian Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 M-9 Qual is good for - 3 years for Pilot, 2 years for Loadmaster. Speaking from the C17 community. Just did it as well(again), as we are getting ready to head on out and play the game all over again and again! The head shots are more realistic as body armor has come into question on whether or not it was good practice hitting center mass only. Good change, definitely a good change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C17Driver Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 AG, must be different based on Guard vs. AD? Ours is 24 month qual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted June 8, 2005 Author Share Posted June 8, 2005 Cool -- I'm going to check it out soon with our CATM guys. Thanks for the help. Any more details on the new qual course? Cranium shots? Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Remy1492 Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Thats cool Beaver, you a prev 130 guy? You gotta keep us posted on how your life goes, thats an odd and small career field you are in. I have always been interested in it. Guns are cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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