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URT Select.

Pilot 96

PCSM 92

1500+ flt hrs

Prior Army helo pilot

35 yr old 1LT

Kind of a kick in the junk as I was already a military pilot yet they still say I am too old...what was the purpose for even applying for an age waiver if they had no intention of selecting past 33, a waste of mine and my leaderships' time if you ask me. Oh well, enough venting, at least I'm back in aviation...sort of.

Good luck to the rest who haven't found out yet and congrats to those that did. And to those that did not make it, remember, it could always be worse; take solace in knowing you did everything you could to try to get a slot, if you didn't, try harder and apply again! Don't let others dictate your career or dreams of flying. 

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Out of curiosity, does anyone know how alternates work? Are there some for each job, and what happens if they reject? Like do people get slotted URT alternate only, and then if they get a real slot and reject it could they reapply? Seems silly to make an alternate held to the same standard as the actual selects.

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5 minutes ago, UPT_Hopeful said:

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how alternates work? Are there some for each job, and what happens if they reject? Like do people get slotted URT alternate only, and then if they get a real slot and reject it could they reapply? Seems silly to make an alternate held to the same standard as the actual selects.

The PSDM of last year’s results gave caveats to the alternates. Some were limited to specific jobs, others were alternates for everything. I’m sure it all depends on your medical.

No clue on the rejection piece...

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1 minute ago, CuriousGuy said:

If you reject you can not reapply

Not without a waiver anyway. This year a couple of folks got ETPs approved for it, but I imagine they're hard to come by. 

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Congrats everyone so far!!

Still waiting to hear on my end, my CC is in DC and apparently he won't give news over the phone, so I'll find out either Friday if he gets back in time or else on Monday I suppose

I had a pretty good letter of rec and ranking, 99 pilot, and 87 PCSM with 41 flight hours, unfortunately no PPL (got it a week after the board met, fml) but I think I'm at least reasonably competitive

I'll let you all know as soon as I do!

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26 minutes ago, Applicant17 said:

Does anyone know if we’ll have to go to Wright-Patt for another Flight Physcial before training? 

What does your physical say? If it says pending MFS, then you will have to come TDY to WP. Those of us who work here or work close and received our physicals from USAFSAM, should not have to see MFS again. 

Talking to folks at MFS, they say that it doesn’t matter where your physical was conducted. When folks get selected, they want all selects to come to WP so they can be seen. That way, there is a standard for all folks receiving physicals. Some bases have been lienent in the past and given people physicals when they maybe shouldn’t have. If your physical doesn’t say pending MFS, you probably won’t need to be seen again. 

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2 minutes ago, TeafChief said:

What does your physical say? If it says pending MFS, then you will have to come TDY to WP. Those of us who work here or work close and received our physicals from USAFSAM, should not have to see MFS again. 

Only upside to being stationed at Wright Patt haha 

 

Any other 2d Lts get picked up for anything? Feel like I’m the only one. 

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32 minutes ago, MC2112 said:

Only upside to being stationed at Wright Patt haha 

 

Any other 2d Lts get picked up for anything? Feel like I’m the only one. 

I’m a 2LT and got picked up for UPT. 

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1 hour ago, OldUPTapplicant said:

I'll swap you a ABM slot lol. 

That’s a conundrum-if you got a slot other than UPT you’re pretty much locked into it.  However, the guy that scored below you on the board and got tagged as an alternate can walk right into a UPT slot if someone fails MFS, etc. and can’t go.

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19 minutes ago, flat4power said:

URT.

ABM select here and saw you as well.  You gonna take it?

Not entirely sure yet, leaning towards no.  If It turns out I got the medical ETP, I might consider taking it on the hope they'll pull RPA trainees to UPT. 

 

If no ETP, then probably not.  I poured my heart out into that package to go fly.  I purposefully did not put in for rated out of USAFA because my medical was waivered for RPA only.  You think that, coupled with me going for a PPL, would clearly demonstrate my intent.  My personal letter said UPT and/or pilot probably a half dozen times or more.  My letter of recommendation was from a prominent fighter pilot that I actually knew fairly well and served under.  I was ranked 1st out of my wing (a prominent wing, as well), and my squadron commander who's signature was on my 215 was a fighter pilot using strong push language.  

 

But nah, give me URT.  Clearly, that's what I am here for.  At least a non-select would have left the door open for next year.  Ironically, the board probably selected me for this because "RPAs are flying, and he's qualified."  But I didn't need an ETP for RPA's...

 

It's very frustrating to have the air force take a dump over my dreams like this.  

 

/salt

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2 minutes ago, Doolsmack_Bud said:

Not entirely sure yet, leaning towards no.  If It turns out I got the medical ETP, I might consider taking it on the hope they'll pull RPA trainees to UPT. 

 

If no ETP, then probably not.  I poured my heart out into that package to go fly.  I purposefully did not put in for rated out of USAFA because my medical was waivered for RPA only.  You think that, coupled with me going for a PPL, would clearly demonstrate my intent.  My personal letter said UPT and/or pilot probably a half dozen times or more.  My letter of recommendation was from a prominent fighter pilot that I actually knew fairly well and served under.  I was ranked 1st out of my wing (a prominent wing, as well), and my squadron commander who's signature was on my 215 was a fighter pilot using strong push language.  

 

But nah, give me URT.  Clearly, that's what I am here for.  At least a non-select would have left the door open for next year.  Ironically, the board probably selected me for this because "RPAs are flying, and he's qualified."  But I didn't need an ETP for RPA's...

 

It's very frustrating to have the air force take a dump over my dreams like this.  

Keep your head up bro. I’m the same situation with different circumstances. I’m leaning towards no as well and pursue ANG/Reserve where I’m closer to family.  As years go by, I realize that I miss my family and missed weddings and birthdays already.  I’m still going to continue to fight our enemies but from a different team.  

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I feel you, all I wanted was UPT but got selected for UCT, I still had one more year of eligibility so would have rather have been turned down and give me another year to build my score instead of having to make this choice of accepting something I'm not entirely set on

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42 minutes ago, Doolsmack_Bud said:

Not entirely sure yet, leaning towards no.  If It turns out I got the medical ETP, I might consider taking it on the hope they'll pull RPA trainees to UPT. 

 

If no ETP, then probably not.  I poured my heart out into that package to go fly.  I purposefully did not put in for rated out of USAFA because my medical was waivered for RPA only.  You think that, coupled with me going for a PPL, would clearly demonstrate my intent.  My personal letter said UPT and/or pilot probably a half dozen times or more.  My letter of recommendation was from a prominent fighter pilot that I actually knew fairly well and served under.  I was ranked 1st out of my wing (a prominent wing, as well), and my squadron commander who's signature was on my 215 was a fighter pilot using strong push language.  

 

But nah, give me URT.  Clearly, that's what I am here for.  At least a non-select would have left the door open for next year.  Ironically, the board probably selected me for this because "RPAs are flying, and he's qualified."  But I didn't need an ETP for RPA's...

 

It's very frustrating to have the air force take a dump over my dreams like this.  

 

/salt

I can't say for the future, but 20ish post-IFT URT studs were sent to UPT last August before they started the pipeline. It came out as a "who wants to UPT" email. I was super salty because it happened barely a year after I graduated 😂. It was a push to fill the last of the fiscal years spots. Again, not common, but it happened. URT studs were the first and only choice to grab those last remaining dates. 

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Am I disappointed I didn’t get picked up for UPT? Of course. But I will say, I feel better about it seeing the quality of the people who did get picked up. It was quite competitive and there were a ton of folks who probably deserve an opportunity. 
With that being said, I’m also a firm believer in everything happening for a reason. I’m looking forward to becoming an ABM. 


When it comes to staff work, 100% would rather be in a bag than anything else. The work you can contribute is 10x more appealing. Sure, the flying life isn’t living the dream, but we’ll all end up at the 5 sided hell hole. Would you rather be helping figure out how to drop iron evil upon our enemies, or figure out how to pay the grass cutting contracts at Laughlin?

Congrats.


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UPT select...finally.

98 pilot, 93 PCSM, 101 flight hours (no ppl, just shy of it. deployments and shit), 30 years old with 7 years in, and just finished my ADSC as a CSO

2nd attempt at the board. Last year AFPC said they wouldn't release me because of the rated crisis across the AF, regardless of the competitive application.

@Hefe knows my pain. Valhalla!

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RPA only nonselect 

PCSM 95

Pilot 96

GPA 3.6, MBA

PPL, 110 civ hours

Letter of Rec from Sr rater, 1/1 wg strat

Age 35

Several years ago I had a UPT slot thru the reserves and lost it because I was med DQed for all flying classes.  I recently heard that the eye condition I got DQed for was removed from the med standards for RPA and figured I’d give it a shot. 

Has anyone been able to obtain non select counseling from the UFT board?  The only thing I can think of is I’m 2 months into a 3 year overseas tour and my current career field wouldn’t curtail that much DEROS.  If that’s the case, I’ll just change the signature blocks to the wing cc for this base and apply again this fall.

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