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    ANG Seasoning Time Length

    in Air National Guard / Air Force Reserves

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    Used to be 2 sets of 265 day orders, which is more like 1.5 years.  You can easily stretch that out to 2.5-3 years if you do UTA/AFTPs between sets of orders.  Some line it up so you use up one years worth of UTA/AFTP at the end of the FY, then roll right into the next FY and use up as many of those UTA/AFTPs, before starting your next set of orders.  Throw in a deployment order in there and it's pretty easy to get to 3 years if you want. 

    Something to consider...  I can count on one hand, and have a few fingers left over, the number of guys who actually went back to their jobs post seasoning.  That's over 15 years of sending between 1 and 3 studs every year to pilot training.  I get it if you're in a highly specialized field, otherwise I wouldn't sweat it too much...5 years is a good WAG.
     

    Seems like fighters have it good after UPT. I’m heavies (C-17) and really hope to be a full-timer after seasoning.

    Realistic chances?

    in What Are My Chances?

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    Age 21 you are in an awesome position with your current credentials. I would retake the AFOQT and raise your Pilot and Navs into the 90s. 30-40s for the other sections is pretty low and those numbers stick out like a sore thumb. Raise them to the 70s at least.
    Last but not least, if getting into a local guard unit is at the top of your list, I would highly recommend enlisting in a AFSC that works closely with pilots.
    I enlisted at 22 and got my pilot slot at 27 (completed my degree at 25). You’re young, you are steps ahead of many. Put yourself even further.

    Civilian Job

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    Right in the middle of heading back to my civilian job now. I always planned on going back, so maybe a little different than your situation, but you can always look at it as...what if you need that job for some reason? 
    Who knows what the world situation will be when you pop out at the end of the pipeline? Your unit may not have orders to keep you going as long as you plan; the airlines might not be hiring; you might find yourself without a viable option for a another civilian job; or (not trying to put the evil on you, Ricky Bobby, but gotta give a legit look at everything) you might just not make it through UPT, so you might need to go back to the civilian world.
    Hell, even if all goes well, there can be some serious breaks in the ANG pilot training pipeline, from my understanding, and it can vary by unit whether they keep you paid/insured and on orders during them. You might find yourself waiting for a few months between OTS and UPT or UPT and PIQ to where you might need to have a civilian gig to keep a roof over your head and yourself fed.
    So, why leave your USERRA protected job in the dust when there’s at least a (hopefully small) chance you’ll have to go back to it? The fact they pay you Mil leave is a nice positive kicker, but I’d honestly hang onto the gig more so because the world is uncertain and, whether you love your job or not, it is one you can have legally held for you while you journey through the pipeline. 


    Wow, thank you for your insight! Absolutely, anything can happen, good or bad, and it would be smart to put myself in the best position possible.

    Civilian Job

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    How many of you went back to your civilian jobs (prior to UPT) after completing seasoning?

    As a current ANG enlisted member, I have a stable corporate job that offers 3 weeks of military leave every year that refreshes on January 1st. Would it be unethical to ask my HR department to utilize it and get paid for 3 weeks every year during the duration of my entire 3 year-ish absence?

     

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    I am currently waiting for TFOT and UPT dates (should be coming up soon since it’s been almost 2 years since I got hired) but am having severe “senioritis” symptoms at my current job..

     

    Thank you for your responses in advance!

     

    Number of Applications Increasing

    in Air National Guard / Air Force Reserves

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    Everything above is true. My last board, I was hired along with 2 civilian applicants. 3 current members interviewed but I could tell they did not take it “seriously” (mediocre scores, not prepping for the interview, etc.) The point I want to make is that if everyone had the equal scores, killed the interview equally, same great attitude, but the only difference was enlisted vs not enlisted? The enlisted will get picked up.

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    Number of Applications Increasing

    in Air National Guard / Air Force Reserves

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    Agreed with O-Face. Before, I know some suggestions said to not waste time enlisting with the unit. But even before the pandemic, guys that are “familiar faces” and have trusted work ethic and attitudes ALWAYS have the upper advantage over some dude from the street. During interviews they are able to provide examples related to a deployment or TDY experience, know the environment of the unit, etc. I can not stress how much enlisting makes a difference. If you are young (18-23) I highly recommend joining your local air guard unit while taking advantage of the free college benefits.

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    Upcoming Boards

    in Air National Guard / Air Force Reserves

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    Hey guys. Just wanted to update that I got picked up from a guard unit recently. This was my third board and I am stoked for this journey. I HIGHLY recommend the consulting package from Bogidope. I really think they played the major factor in making my resume and cover letter stand out and preparing me for the interview. They really teach you how to tailor your strengths into killing the interview.

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