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48 minutes ago, Uptapplicant2019 said:
That’s good to hear, I was just surprised when their advice was to go for T-1s because if I went 38s as a Capt I’d end up in a bomber or E-3...
If that’s the kind of advice they’re giving you I’d seek better folks to get advice from. That’s nonsense.
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3 hours ago, pawnman said:
Took the devil's money back when everyone and their brother was telling me I'd definitely get promoted. Committed to 2027.
If you’re passed over again next year you’ll have the option to decline continuation. I’m not saying...just saying!
Gotta pay back any “unearned” portion of your bonus of course.
Options are nice to have
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10 hours ago, jrizzell said:
That was my question. I just reengaged with my friend, it seems that in their hasty review of the non-selection paperwork they made some poor assumptions about what it meant. I also did some digging into the AFI, and it looks like continuation becomes a player after your 1APZ.
True. Continuation only comes into play once passed over a second time. First time passed over you won’t see that paperwork. It happens a second time....you’ve got some decisions to make.
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Today is official release
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Breitling. Get the best. Forget the rest
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2 hours ago, WheelsOff said:
That checks.
Any idea idea if I could separate from AD and return from overseas after my DEROS/ADSC expire and NOT incur any type of commitment for the move back? I think you can, since you’d be separating and they owe you that last move, correct?
To my knowledge that’s correct. They owe you one last move at the end when you separate/retire. And no, that doesn’t incur any duty.
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On 6/8/2019 at 11:48 AM, WheelsOff said:
I have about 2 years 9 months on my ADSC left. Let’s say I take an overseas assignment w/a RNLTD next summer...I’m assuming I’d have to stay in past my ADSC to satisfy the DEROS before I could separate?
Next question, could I then just separate (whether it’s at my ADSC or DEROS, however that works out) and move back to the CONUS without incurring any further type of commitment?
Bottom line: it would be fun to take an assignment to somewhere like Hawaii, but not sure if it’s worth the pain/hassle or not if it would not allow me to separate sooner...
If you take a move then absolutely that can/will extend your ADSC. If you choose to do that then it’s on you. However, they can’t force you to move and incur duty past your existing ADSC. It may force you to show your hand earlier than you want but if you don’t want the extra ADSC then don’t take the move.
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10 hours ago, Bigred said:
Pretty sure UPT time has to be logged as ‘dual received’ since the students aren’t rated yet. SIC would apply once complete with UPT and winged.
If you have your PPL then you are a pilot as far civilians are concerned, AF wings or not
It gets weird with civilian time vs how we log. Throw in little differences between individual airlines and it gets confusing fast. Just be able to justify how you calculated yours come interview time.
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7 hours ago, FLEA said:
More questions: How do you count UPT time? SIM time? Does it depend on the class sim?
Really great answers so far. Thanks for those of you in the know for contributing.
UPT would be SIC (except the couple solo flights would be PIC). Simulator time doesn’t get included in your civilian totals, regardless of the type of sim used. For those purposes it’s no different than “other” time. Doesn’t count for anything.
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I’ll echo what others have said. Don’t lie or hide anything. Or at a minimum don’t be stupid and try to claim something with the VA and then turn around and fail to let your AME know about the same condition/ailment. I personally know a bud who got in deep legal sh*t with the FAA and wound up indicted. That stuff is no joke. If you aren’t willing to talk about it with your AME, don’t take it to the VA either.
On the other hand, it’s pretty surprising how much stuff is acceptable to have and still hold a civilian medical certificate. Tons of info out there so do some research if you have specific concerns.
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On 4/27/2019 at 10:17 AM, SocialD said:
I think most of them specifically tell you to NOT count other time.
^ this
Civilian aviation does not recognize other time.
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I’ve had a chronic back injury for several years now and still flying.
But like many things I’m sure it depends on the specifics of your injury. Regardless, my 2 cents would be to get it checked out asap.
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17 hours ago, Ed_Brad86 said:
Apparently as of yesterday Friday patches/shirts/name tags are officially banned in the 1 SOW per the wing commander at Hurlburt. Wonder if this is a sign of the bullshit to come with Slife taking over AFSOC soon...
Slife the Knife! Get some
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"Acute Intoxication”
.....better than chronic I suppose
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2 hours ago, YoungnDumb said:
Moved from Vance a few months back (spent 5 years there) and I didn't live on base but quite a few friends did, so I'll be speaking on what I saw.
The married UPT houses (with great exception) were nothing special, 2-3 bedrooms with garage and/or carport. Decent sized, but not huge. All houses have their own back yard that is medium sized, lots of parks and a few dog parks on base though to help mitigate this. The base is small so you can walk to pretty much everywhere you want pretty easily (read drunk stumble back from the club).
There are 2 blocks or so of newer housing, no idea who those go to (besides the obvious O-6's), had a pair of friends from UPT who lucked into them but besides that pretty much everyone else I knew lived in the standard older house. Maintenance seemed okay, never really heard any complaints about it.
@MooseClub, if you're an O-4 I would live off base. Vance is small so there isn't a lot offered on base for the family. Reasonable housing can be found pretty much anywhere North and West of the base (avoid everything east of Van Buren). Anywhere in town is at most a 10-15 minute drive or less.
Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the help!
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22 minutes ago, Genghis John said:
It’s antiqated to think people are going to surrender 10 plus years of where their families live and continuly have no say in there career to just accept the “the needs of the Air Force,” an organization that isn’t even aware of their own needs.
^so true.
There is so much about the the AF that is so out of date it’s just sad. The way we promote, pay, incentivize, move, etc. Like several of us told a two star traveling around a year or so ago trying to find a way to solve pilots jumping ship - it just comes down to the way you treat people. Admittedly that’s a broad statement and encompasses many things. But when people are made to feel like simple undervalued cogs in the machine...well that just isn’t how you should handle some of the most highly trained and educated folks out there. I’m afraid there’s a great many things the entire military does that have fallen behind society and the way talented people expect to be treated and valued. Saying “people are our most valuable assets” in one moment and then treating them like cogs the next, all in the name of “needs of the AF”, well it simply doesn’t justify that kind of treatment to many people and I believe that pool of folks is only going to grow as time goes on with younger generations. People (especially talented) simply don’t want to be treated that way, in addition to having so little control of their lives in the mil, as Genghis John points out.
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1 hour ago, ihtfp06 said:
The very worst people I’ve worked for in AMC have been patches.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk^this
A patch in and of itself doesn’t mean much. I’ve seen idiots get sent to WIC along with incredible folks. It still comes down to the person.
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To follow on to my previous post, I’m moving to Vance this summer and looking for info on base housing. I’ve read this entire thread but looking for any current info. I’m an 0-4 with a wife and two kiddos. I’ve looked at housing’s website but it doesn’t offer a lot of data. Looking for general info: housing age/condition, size, management, general experience, etc.
Thanks in adavance for any help.
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On 1/4/2019 at 2:09 PM, FDNYOldGuy said:
Not sure if this is the right spot for this question, so please forgive me if I'm in the wrong box, but I have a few questions about UPT housing; specifically switching from unaccompanied to accompanied (Reserves). I'm also non-prior service, so I'm a little further behind the curve with how everything works, as well.
I'm headed to Vance after OTS, so I guess this question isn't particular to Vance, but maybe there are some Vance-specific pointers someone might have.
Anyway, I've got some considerable BITs/ADs in my orders, as well as SERE in between PCS-ing to Vance and my actual UPT start date. My wife and 8 month old kiddo will be staying back in NYC due to her work and she won't be finished with it until 2 days before my RNLTD. But, they will certainly be able to join me before my official UPT start date.
First question: I gather I'll be doing a partial DITY PCS move to Vance and staying in the dorms before going TDY to SERE? I'd heard that it's possible to move into housing (we were planning on staying in on-base housing when she gets there to be closer to other families in the same boat), but I think there's too much time in between me arriving and them joining me. Not to mention, I'd rather ensure I can utilize the waiver to get the higher NYC rate to cover my bills there over losing it due to living in a house on base before they arrive (if I would by moving out of the dorms).
Second question: Is it considered to partial DITYs if I move myself there in March, then move her and my son later in May? Any pitfalls or things to watch out for doing this?
Third question: I'm guessing RNLTDs are pretty set in stone and I won't be able to push that, so to avoid a packing/driving frenzy of nearly 1,500 miles from NYC to Vance in less than 2 days, I'm going to have to pack everything early and move a few days before they'll be able to fly down and join once she's done with her work. She can just stay with friends for a little, so that's not a huge deal, but we'd all be going separately (again) and I'm not sure how that'll work.
Last question (for now, I guess): all of this is dependent on housing availability and when I could get a house on base. Will I just talk to the housing office when I get there about hammering all of this out?
I am sure I'm missing a lot of stuff in here, but that's what I've got kicking around so far. Any input you might have in going through this or hearing others stories of doing similar would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking the time!
General caveat - I’m not an expert on every question you have but I’ll try and throw some bones your way.
1) Regardless of when your spouse moves, yes you should be able to move directly into base housing and not be subject to dorm life. That’s exactly how it played out for me when I moved and my wife later joined me due to her work. If your records show you being married that’s what they look for (regardless if she moves at that time or not). As far as you moving and then going to SERE, it just depends on what your orders say. If it has you PCSing to Vance with a date prior to SERE then yes it sounds like the plan is for you to move and then go TDY from Vance. You should not have to ever live in the dorms though given you’re married. You said something about a waiver? Not sure what you’re referring to but once you PCS any housing allowance you’re receiving will then change to the rates at your new (Vance) location....assuming this is what you’re getting at.
2) I would ask this directly to your TMO office to make sure. I believe you could do it that way but you’re going to have to investigate.
3) RNLTDs are NOT set in stone. If adjusting your date is advantageous to your family then explain the situation you your commander. If it makes sense, and won’t screw up follow on training, then your CC can certainly make changes to those dates through AFPC. Again, just go ask the question.
4) I would not wait till I got there. Call the housing office and start getting a feel for how close to capacity they typically run. Especially going into that time of year, they should be able to give you an idea of what to expect. You won’t know the final answer till it’s closer to move time. If they are full at that time then you’ll be able to go offbase to find housing. Have a plan for either case.
Hope this helps a bit. Best of luck!
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10 hours ago, IDALPHA said:
Perfect example why the bonus doesn’t work.....
Dudes that are staying in anyway boosting the take rate for the managers to hang their hat on.
Should move this to “What’s Wrong” thread.
Agreed. I wonder if there’s stats for late-raters who take the bonus. I’d like to see what percentage of total takers fall into that camp. That’s a completely different equation when it comes to folks staying/taking the bonus.
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6 hours ago, Majestik Møøse said:
This was life at Travis 5 years ago, for me at least. Sq/CCs, in unison with the OG, once reminded aircraft commanders that they were still responsible for checking their .mil emails on the road daily, just in case someone required an immediate answer for some queep.
Had a sqd cc say something similar to me once. I looked at him like he had a dick growing from his forehead.
And they wonder why pilots go find other work.
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What's wrong with the Air Force?
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^nomination for post of the year.