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XL 18-10
T1
KC-135 Souix City Iowa (guard/reserve)
Kc-135 Nebraska (guard/reserve)
KC-10 Travis (guard/reserve)
C-12 yokota
KC-135 Kadena
T-1 FAIP
KC-135 Mildenhall
C-17 McGuire
C-17 Travis
C-21 RamsteinT38
F-16 South Dakota (guard/reserve)
A-10 DM
Nigeria - TBD
T-6 FAIP
AC-130 Cannon
F-16 TBD
C-130 Ramstein
C-130 Dyess
F-22 Tyndall-
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XL 18-09
T-38
F-16 Tucson ANG
F-16 TBD x2
F-15E Seymour Johnson
T-38 Langley
T-38 FAIP
U-28 Hurlburt
C-17 Lewis McChord
RC-135 OffuttT-1
MC-130 Cannon
C-130 Peoria ANG
C-130 Yokota
C-130 Dyess
C-17 Hickman
C-17 Dover
C-5 Westover ARB
C-5 Dover
MC-12 Will Rogers World ANG
RC-135 Offutt
KC-135 Goldwater ANG x2
KC-135 March
KC-135 Seymour Johnson
KC-10 Travis -
XL 18-08
T-1
C21 Ramstein
C5 Dover
KC135 March x2
C17 Stewart ANG
KC10 McGuire
KC135 Mildenhall
AC130 Hurlburt
T6 FAIP
KC135 GuardT38
Saudi fighter
T38 FAIP x3
F16 tbd x2
F22 Tyndall
A10 DM
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On 3/2/2018 at 6:53 AM, YoungnDumb said:
Much better than the original plan of tracking students who still had 16+ sorties left to go.
That happened. Two classes 18-13 and 18-14 tracked without some studs finishing formation or in some cases even starting it.
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XL 18-06
T-38
F-16 x2
B-2
E-3
F-15E
T-38 FAIP
F-22T-1
T-1 FAIP
AC-130
KC-135 x5
KC-10 x2
C-17 x2Standard Disclaimer: Drinking probably missed one or two.
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Last I heard was they still expect to be grounded for a bit, but classes will track anyway (for now) despite not completing the full T6 syllabus. Them starting backup Monday is new news to me.
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2015 (381) and 2016 (345) rotc numbers for comparison.
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29 minutes ago, DosXX said:
643 pilot selects from ROTC this year vs. 345 two years ago... any idea how they plan to push this many pilots through when there is already a massive backlog? Short of cutting down UPT or adding another training base I'm not seeing how this is going to be possible.
By burying their heads in the sand and pretending there isn't a problem? Don't have to fix what you don't admit is broken. You already have some LTs from rotc waiting for nearly a year to enter active duty or spending a ridiculous amount of time on casual status. We have some of the highest paid gate guards, bus drivers, marshalers that can't marshal, etc. as a result of casual.
I'm a little more concerned that the average pcsm of a pilot select Cadet is down 14 points, GPA down 0.13, Pfa by 1.5. CSOs are down by similar numbers as well. Do y'all think that there will be a noticeable difference in quality of the average stud? Or a higher washout rate as a result? Obviously these #s aren't the best metric in the world to predict flying ability but I would expect to see some future correlation.
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XL 18-05
T-38s
Fighter Iraq
C-130
A-10 x2
F-16 x2
E/A-18
E-3T-1s
C-17 x2
HC-130
KC-135 x3
C-5
T-1 FAIP
T-6 FAIP
C-130Missed one or two as usual.
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XL 18-12 Track
9x T-38 (2 International)
10x T1
1x TH-1 -
Didn't write any of drop down but from memory for XL 18-04,
T-38
E/A-18
F-15C
A-10
T-6
C-130T-1
T-6
LC-130
KC-10 x 4
KC-135
AC-130
C-17 x2+
MQ-9 (Guard)
C-130 x2+-
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XL 18-11 Track
T-38: 8 (2 International)
T-1: 13
UH-1: 1
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24 minutes ago, tk1313 said:
Oxygen concentrations should start low at low altitudes, and increase from there until it gets to 100% concentration at higher altitudes.
The fact that the IPs are the ones getting hypoxic is something that I'm sure the AF team of engineers or technical experts will start to focus on.
Interesting, what is the standard O2 delivery percentages? Is it auto-100% with weight on wheels then variable in flight based on cabin/aircraft altitude? Because pretty much of the IPs (and some studs) actually fully wear their mask on the ground. Aside from the required checks I always see it hanging when they taxi by. I would assume that in the hammerhead or holding short they put it on.
Again for it being primarily IPs my two thoughts are it's either a backseat issue (studs normally in the front except instrument rides) or they just have more SA.
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1 hour ago, tk1313 said:
Anyways, none of this is my research, but I just thought those basics were very interesting especially given the OBOGS issues in the T-6 (and across multiple other platforms as well).
Doesn't the O2 bottle deliver 100% O2 though? So if it truly were hyperoxia that would be exactly the wrong thing to do vs. say descend and drop the mask. If they already have a new boldface directing crews to the O2 bottle I would assume that they ruled out hyperoxia and it's either foreign contaminants in the OBOGS, some form of CO/CO2 poisoning, or the OBOGS is malfunctioning and not supplying sufficient O2 quantities leading to hypoxia.
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That's some scary shit. I don't know what they're doing differently there but I wouldn't want to be flying their tails. Have they all been rear cockpit? I know all but one were IPs... Or maybe the studs just have low SA and don't even notice the difference in the front.
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17 minutes ago, YoungnDumb said:
Had another one yesterday. Also, they're flying weekends with "volunteers" now.
At Vance?
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26 minutes ago, ViperMan said:
Sarcastic post aside, I'll answer the questions literally (for sarcastic fun):
They won't. Enlisted pilot retention will likely be lower than officer pilot retention.
Nail on Cranium, though I will say that it's not so much the 'process' that the academy/rotc/ots puts "you" through (capable people are capable people); rather, the pool of candidates that make it through the other end of those said training pipelines have shown they have the metal to handle the USAF UPT pipeline. This 'cheaper' process enables the USAF to select (from an already select group) individuals who are likely to succeed in a challenging program (which is extraordinarily expensive), which is, arguably, the point of those accession processes. My point is, the whole purpose of accession programs is to save tax payer money by sending the people most likely to graduate through the most expensive training known to man...having a "college degree" and 90 days of marching is not too high a bar to granting that privilege, IMHO.
To make sure I'm tracking, are you're saying that the bar to starting upt needs to be set higher than a college degree and 90 days at ots? Or that it's right where it belongs and in testing out the E program we're lowering the current bar too far?
Control is an interesting thought, but I would be shocked if they're thinking that many moves ahead. My money is on this being yet another poorly attempted cost saving bandaid that is ignoring the root cause of both pilot production and retention rates.
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There is no way a current upt stud out of phase 2 could go directly to the B course. Unless they're a prior atp or what have you. They can barely read an approach plate much less fly a multi leg mission. They're used to a very responsive and forgiving plane that it's easy to get back from mistakes in. And if it's into Fighters they've got less than 20 hours of formation flying under their belt before being shipped to iff.
There is something to be said for time in the seat and I don't think there is anyway that you can effectively shorten it to 6 months in the Texan without severely handicapping the end product.
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1 minute ago, disgruntledemployee said:
Easy fix.
1. Gather those Es that want to pilot
2. Put em in the pipeline (good luck, I hear its full)
3. Upon completion of UPT, they commission as 2d Lt, start a 10yr ADSC, and begin their journey towards the airlines. Welcome to the party, folks.
4. Oh, and to qualify they need a 4yr degree.
In the end they look just like any other pilot.
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Why not just send them to ots first then like I currently done with the few prior e that do get picked up? Especially in reserve units and such.
And how does this in anyway fix or alleviate the shortage of pilots as their is no additional throughput unless a new base opens for upt or incentive/way/method to get those people to extend beyond 6/10/etc years?
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Of course they get the cush deal being out of Austin.
On a serious note if retention is an issue for officers, why would an enlisted getting paid pittance in comparison with a shorter commitment not jump ship to the airlines immediately?
If the idea is to show non college grads are capable of flying the answer is, yes of course they are. Flying isn't something black magic skill that you learn by going to a college or through rotc/ots/academy. The odds of success in a tough pipeline, however, are increased by a degree in my opinion because you're more likely to have the study skills, work ethic, etc. you develop through those processes. More importantly, when you're the aircraft commander you better be an officer (or warrant). Can you imagine how much flak we would take if 20 yearold airman snuffy crashed and killed a civilian in the process?
If you send them to ots before/after, make them a warrant officer, etc. I think it could work. But even then why take the risk and not do it how it is now? Ots first then upt.
This is another shitty bandaid to the problem. They have their fingers in their ears shouting "lala lala I can't hear you lalalalala" while the entire community is saying here is how you can make me stay. They're not willing to make any changes to those areas such as salaries, job locations, time home with family, etc. you, the mission comes first not the people. I know we'll make the enlisted do it for less pay! Solved the budget and manning issue at once! Because a ssgt pilot is basically the same as the majors we're desperately hurting for.
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5 minutes ago, Heavywanabe said:
Who'd the E-3 guy piss off..
There have been a few out of 38s now. Not sure what deal got made when they started taking the T1 afsoc drops, but I assume it involved them also taking the E3 drops.
The 38 stud here at XL that got the CV had it near the very bottom of his sheet. Did not want it at all... Meanwhile I know a few of the T1 studs would have killed for it. Will be interesting to see how he does compared to the huey and toner guys at the school house.
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2 minutes ago, tk1313 said:
There's a hyperoxia theory going around... Thought it was interesting.
That doesn't make sense. Saw the fcif today and it came with specific direction that old procedure of gangloading was ineffective due to potential contaminants/toxins in the OBOGS. The emergency O2 it specifies is the only guaranteed source of pure 100% O2 hence the new boldface to pull green ring for hypoxia rather than gangloading.
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2 hours ago, nunya said:
Handgrips - Raise, Triggers - Squeeze?
Got it passed along from a buddy,
OBOGS Failure/Physiological Symptoms
GREEN RING - PULL (AS REQUIRED)(BOTH)
DESCENT BELOW 10,000 FEET MSL - INITIATE
DISCONNECT MAIN OXYGEN SUPPLY HOSE FROM CRU-60/P
Will be interested to see down the line what the ultimate cause of all this is with OBOGS systems.
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Saw today that the T6 got a new boldface for physis due to this.
Kadena F-15 Crash
in General Discussion
Posted · Edited by LiquidSky
GMT +9 in Kadena. It's early Monday morning.Edit: Disregard. Low SA. Assumed it happened today as it wasn't reported until now.