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Probably because ATOC doesn't have anything to do with fuel. POL does that... ATOC puts on your cargo/pax (more sepcifically Aerial Port does, ATOC is the C&C of the Aerial Port). Unless you've got a new concept aircraft that burns pax as fuel... wait a minute! That gives me an idea!
Edit: Ok, I commented before I saw your second post explaining it more in detail. But curious, why were you contacting ATOC for fuel? Was it because they were the only USAF personnel at the base or ??
Most likely the no fuel policy was put in place by the Marines several years ago when things were a bit rougher and when that MEF left and another took its place, followed by another, no one ever readdressed that policy. Hell they probably weren't even aware of their own policy. I can't, in any way shape or form, imagine ATOC creating a rule to deny fuel when ATOC isn't even involved in that process at all.
Wow, even I know this one!
There's not a separate freq for ATOC, TA, C&C, and POL. It's a person on a radio that handles the coordination between aircraft and those agencies. One radio call commonly says "I'm downloading this(ATOC), I need a power cart(TA), this much gas(POL), and parking." That freq is commonly referred to as "the ATOC freq" but is used for all those things.
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I think the White House Press folks read into this type of crap too much. When Obama went to speak at the Notre Dame Commencement (I think that was it) they made the private Catholic university cover up the Cross. IMHO, all this dick dancing around things that might hurt his image do more damage to it than good.
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So does that mean the long awaited interview has arrived?
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Long time ago in another thread, I relayed a similar discussion in that comm folks think that we would not be able to do our mission if all computers failed. A failed computer system does not change the MX status of an airplane, it will still fly, especially an E model Herc. A failed computer system does not change the readiness of aircrew. Without computers, we can still schedule planes and crews, still put gas on the planes, still load them with cargo, still fly to places around the world. Do computers make it all easier, sure. Does our reliance on computers make it harder for us to perform our job when they fail, sure. Do we need to train ourselves to operate with out radios and computer, absolutely. Because it will happen. The enemy knows that we need Blackberrys in order to function. Its our crutch!
Even us newbs are taught from the beginning to do the mission without computers. I never used CFPS until the very end of Nav School, we did everything with pencil, paper, and whiz wheel. I didn't have access to the laptop on the airplane until I got to my first duty station (I think. I don't remember using laptops at Little Rock), and I never saw a DTM (they were magical, mythical devices that were never used) till my first deployment. It would be a huge PITA, but I could take a chart, pencil, DR kit, and blank nav log and plan a whole mission, and go fly it without any automation. We don't do it often, and some airframes might not be able to do it (no navs) but if the network went down tomorrow, Herks could still hack missions.
And not to leave the rest of the crew out, Loads can still do paper form F's, and Engineers DO still run TOLD manually.
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Guess I see a test pilot being a better manager on acquisition programs than someone who has no clue what the end user truly wants and needs. To be a test pilot, you have to have the engineering/science background as well the ops background--hence a more well rounded leader and manager of these programs and commands.
Yeah, but test pilots don't necessarily know what the end-user needs either. I've flown with test crews (not for tests, just repositioning aircraft) and the higher-ups seem to have a long test career, and haven't really been in ops for a long time (the O-5 I flew with had been a Test Pilot for well over a decade). Sure, they know the aircraft inside and out, and have a lot of hours. They can take the airplane to its limits and beyond, and do it well, but they haven't deployed in years, if ever.
I've never really thought of the engineering types as clerks, more like star trek geeks who make science fiction, science reality.That's pretty much what I gathered.
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Because hiding behind (supposed) internet anonymity shouldn't give you the right to be an a$$hole. We're all guests here, seems pretty easy to follow a couple rules and be civil. If you want to act like a dick, take it over to 4chan.
Bingo. There is no reason to be an ass clown like that, in any venue, internet or not. Those who choose to be assholes should be called out and penalized for their actions.
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I have a cheap pair of Panama Jack metal framed polarized shades I wear on and off duty at home. I don't like the polarized lenses on the plane though, because of that rainbow effect on the windows. Deployed, I wear Wiley X's, on and off the plane. I forget which model. They hold up better in my leg pocket than any metal frames could.
Never had anyone get in my chili about either one.
If I find myself flying through dawn and having to transition from NVG's to visor, it takes about 2 minutes to take the banana clip and battery pack off the helmet and attach the visor. I don't even have to remove the helmet. I don't wear sunglasses with the helmet, only on headset.
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It's the same round...what's the diff. If you can carry something other than the M9, then might as well make a change that could make a tangible difference in stopping power.
What?
Have you ever shot a Glock? Have you shot any 9mm other than the M9? Yes, they have the same chambering, but aside from that, they're totally different guns.
If I had my choice, I'd go with a Sig P229, for 9mm. If I could upgrade caliber, I'd probably go with a P229 in .40. I like capacity, so most .45's would be out for me, either due to low mag capacity, or too big a grip because it's a double stack.
I'll keep the Beretta over a Glock. I hate Glocks.
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Didn't know that. I'm not on NIPR, plus I'm pretty sure I deleted the email, but I could've sworn the email we got said it came down from AFCENT.
Oh, well. I never wear PT gear at home anyway. I wear civvies to the gym.
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Pressed to test at the Barksdale gym this morning. Nobody said anything to me about not having it tucked in, but there were plenty who were wearing a nice, neat tucked in PT shirt while lifting or running or whatnot. There were a few who were quite blatantly untucked, and nobody seemed to be giving them any grief either. Maybe it's still new and the SNCO mafia hasn't had time to let it soak in yet.
I'm pretty sure this is just an AFCENT thing.
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They behead him BEFORE they crucify him?
Weak sauce.
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Yup, these came down from CENTCOM I think. So the tucking, saluting, etc is AOR-wide. I was walking to the swill trough I mean chow hall I mean DFAC with the crew the other day, in PT's, and some other guy in PT's, whom none of us had ever seen before, popped a salute. We returned it and then said "so who the hell was that and how did he know we're officers?"
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You 17 guys do overhead breaks for fun? I thought you were required to do those to show everyone on the base that you had your wheels down...
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The free wireless in the dorms here has gone from 4MB to 30MB. They've been promising it for months and finally delivered. Great connectivity when you Skype.
Also, the qweep here is not as bad as the Deid. There is a little common sense here and lots of prayers that it stays that way.
Yeah, I was surprised that actually happened. 3 days trying to download an album on iTunes, and the next second I look over and its done. And you're right, the queep isn't as bad as I was expecting.
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Thanks, guys. I was gonna say the same thing about why I didn't get a ticket. I actually thought that SrA had some of his own judgement. I'm glad I found out he's a bad cop.
Just out of curiosity, harleyusaf, how many people do you pull over for not having a PT shirt tucked in or for not stopping for at least 3 seconds at every stop sign?
And yes, I did print my insurance card. Thanks for taking an officer for his word.
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I'm getting ready for my first trip to Salem. Half of the advice I've gotten from the guys who have been there has been about tucking in your shirt and wearing the right socks. The boss even made a huge talking point about tucking in shirts, wearing the right socks, and not ripping the shit out of shoes who harass you about it.
Can't wait.
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Sorry, guys. I gotta tell the one good SF story in history.
Coming on to Dyess around 0700. I get all the way to the circle and see the Skycops completely blocking the road and diverting everyone into the chapel parking lot. I pull into a parking spot as marshalled, and a SRA Skycop comes up to my window. "Sir, I'm Airman Skycop. We're conducting random [bullshit] checks for driver's license, vehicle registration and insurance this morning. I need your license, registration, and proof of insurance."
I'm not happy about this crap, but I'm usually pretty easy going, so I'm not making a big deal of it. I produce all the requested documents, and tell him, "It looks like my insurance card expired yesterday, and I forgot to print off the new one. I have insurance, I just forgot to print the new card."
He starts off his spiel about how since my insurance card is out of date he has to give me a citation, blah blah blah... I'm sure I'm getting a ticket, and I'm gonna have to bring that into my new FLT/CC who I just met, and I'm pretty sure thinks I'm a brand new from the FTU moron.
Then SRA Skycop says, "But, sir, I know USAA updates their coverage automatically, so I'm sure it's good. I'll let you off today, but you really need to print that new card."
I was shocked. I thanked him, returned his salute as I pulled out of the space and even smiled when the SFS Capt gave me the stink eye as I was driving around the lot. That one kid actually has some common sense and knows how to apply it.
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I know a guy who has taken the occasional dance class to meet chicks. He does well. I've even agreed to dance (which I never do, without a 6-pack, at least) in the interest of impressing some tail. Hell, I'll even make a fool of myself on the dance floor just to entertain a female friend. But dancing just for the joy of dancing is pretty gay. Doing it in competition, on TV, then doing an interview with AF Times using your fairy callsign is Conduct Unbecoming of a Male Officer.
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So I guess what happened last year was mom and dad got hauled off to jail by child protective services for making the UAV's live in the basement, feeding them moldy bread and rainwater.
Sounds like the UAV's got more than they deserved...
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Wait, slow down, if KC-10's are the red headed stepchild of the Air Force, then helos must be the baby that the Air Force left in the dumpster after prom night, 135's are the kid it sold into slavery to work in a sweatshop, and Herks were left in the forest to be raised by wolves.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't sell yourself short here.
And if all that is true, then the Bone is the 30 year old that does little more than sit on the couch all day but mom just won't throw out because he's her "baby."
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USAFPilot, cheers, bro! Way to make an entrance. Welcome!
I think next time a shoe gets mad at me for not knowing their job (like I'm pretty sure finance is going to whenever I file that 3-week late travel voucher) I'm going to ask them if they know how to fly cargo planes. When they say "no," I'm going to remind them that I don't get mad at them for riding in the back of my plane and tell them to drive themselves. They don't know how to fly, so I give them a ride when they need it. Similarly, I don't know much about their job, so they can help me out with finance.
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The TIB were at Snowfest in 2004. After a long day on the slopes, I wasn't in the best state of mind and actually went to see what they were about. (I had no idea...I wish I did) I left before the first song started, went back to the room and became best friends with a bottle of Cuervo, passed out on the floor.
When I was in the Nav dorms at Randolph, they did a show between some mx hangars right across the street. I couldn't get away from the crappy, played out folky music. I opened a 30rack and drank till Tops in Blue turned into Green Day.
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As a civilian employee of the Air Force who has clearly identified himself, is it wise to call your customers 'bitches' in public? My guess is, um, no.
And it's a small Air Force. Ten bucks says some bitchy whining pilot who is reading this thread could be in your office tomorrow needing help with something. He's gonna look at the name plaque on your desk and know exactly what kind of shoe you are.
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I'm not sure how or by what act of God I am not on the CGO list, but it looks like I am missing out on a lot of hilarious spam.
I don't get them either. But it's replaced by all the stupid little notices from the MXS, AMCC, WX. Don't know why I get this shit, but I do. They email me every NOTAM, notice of every bolt tightened, every wx report. It might be worse than CGOC emails. At least those appear to be entertaining.
Holsters in Flight Suits
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In all fairness, I started the original thread as "concealed," but I've found the Galco Miami Classic rig is perfect for open carry as well. In fact, I haven't concealed it yet. The Squadron issued me a thigh holster, too, which I've worn a couple times, but all that weight on a belt while wearing a bag is not comfy for me. Lots of guys wear them, and don't seem to have any problems, but I love the Galco. It works fine with armor as well.
As for Galco, I can't say enough about the company. They are a little pricey, but you definitely get what you pay for, and a company that stands behind it's products. I emailed them a couple weeks before I walked out the door and said "Your website shows a 4-6 week back order, and I'm leaving sooner than that. Is there any way I can pay for faster shipping?" A rep called me the next day, at home. He took down my info over the phone, and promised that they would make sure my holster got to me within 7 days for no extra cost, and thanked me for my service. Awesome folks at Galco.