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    Promotion and PRF Information

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    13 hours ago, ThreeHoler said:



    Klepto: I doubt competitive categories will help. I think there is a study in the Navy showing that the “aviator” category promotes at a lower rate than the others.


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    The rate at which the new competitive categories promote will likely go down because the AF still only needs/is authorized X number of new O-4 or O-5s per year. In the Current system, officers compete for every authorized line number. In the new system they will only compete for slots allocated to their competitive category (sts). Because smaller, support type competitive categories will have guaranteed line numbers, the result will be a lower overall selection rate (%) for the ops category. However, the goodness is that each competitive category can define what it values in its officers. Instead of competing with sitting Sq/CCs from the MSG the lead hundreds of Airmen, the ops category can place higher emphasis on things like deployments, WIC grads, etc. 

    I personally think it’s a fair trade off because the goobers and queep monsters in Ops will  more easily standout amongst the purely ops records.

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    Promotion and PRF Information

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    6 hours ago, pawnman said:

    Weren't they also supposed to be running an experiment where they separated aviators from the rest of LAF officers to see if that would improve aviator promotion rates?

    Yes.

    The AFDW/CC briefed the AF folks here at CGSC a month or so ago and said this was approved. Though the timeline and particulars for implementing the plan is still up in the air. He said he expects in the 2021 time frame.

    I think this is a good move since each competitive category can choose to promote what it values and the number of selects for each category can be tailored year to year based on needs. The downside is they expect rated promotion rates to decrease because the overall number of selects is still capped and each category will get allocated guaranteed line numbers. 

     

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    What pawnman said.

    Wing CCs know that their #1 and probably #2 push are a lock for school (assuming the record matches the push) so why would they waste the “DA” on someone like that? The best use of the DA is to get the late bloomers or those with bad timing due to PCS, extended deployments, etc to school. 

     

     

    Aviation Continuation Pay (ACP - The Bonus)

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    1 minute ago, Uptapplicant2019 said:

    Question, I'm currently an active duty 1lt (prior enlised) with 6 years time in service and headed to UPT in October...will I be eligible for any continuation pay after my initial 10 year UPT commitment if I'm already at 17ish years in service? 

    The AvB changes year to year based on retention requirements. Who knows what the specifics will be 10 years from now. 

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    7 hours ago, Jetpilot said:

    My general observations:  dudes assigned to the USAFWC absolutely love their jobs and are there for the right reasons (build, teach, lead).  Also, their sacrifice of time/family life etc. in order to train the next generation is beyond compare.  However, I have seen plenty of 57 WG folk, especially patches, get surpassed by folks at "normal wings".  I can't imagine how a static closeout would affect them even more.

    You’re preaching to the choir on the work the WS cadre put in. 

    A static close out would take away a SR’s room to maneuver for strats and pushes which will make the tough situation you and I both described worse. 

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    Promotion and PRF Information

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    1 hour ago, Warrior said:


    . One data point: how many WIC grads are in the 57 WG all competing against each other for that push?

     

    This. The 57 Wg/CC and the WS/CO do their best to push folks, but you can only do so much.

    If the AF adopts a static close out for Officers as is rumored, that problem will only get worse. We’re going to have to recalibrate our eyes when looking at records and not expect everyone to be #1.

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    NO push lines should read exactly like they would if the SR was able to give an overall recommendation. They absolutely can/should put whatever strat or remarks that are appropriate for your record. The only difference in the NO PRF is that the SR  uses the drop down menu to say no overall recommendation.

     

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