[Saddle up for Syria? Or Op Deny Christmas '13]

So let me understand this correctly... The current administration would like to disarm US citizens (cuz guns are bad mmm kay) but at the same time arm up the Syrian citizens... Am I missing something here?? I'm pretty sure we know how this story ends...worked out well in Afghanistan...

Be reasonable. There's no comparison. On one hand, you have an out of control government taking advantage of its citizens, ignoring calls for reform, and assuming more power and control while reducing..zzz

...Hey, the new Superman movie is out today! Gotta go.

[Taxes, the Deficit/Debt, and the Fiscal Cliff]

Joe, I'm not attacking you, so I'm having trouble understanding why you're being so incredibly defensive. Not every minor critique deserves an angry, rambling response. "Methinks the lady doth protest too much". I'm no psychologist, so I can't claim to be 100% certain that an inferiority complex would make someone feel the need to bring others down in your situation, but even so, I'm sure you'd be ready to vehemently refute it in another angry self-righteous tirade. There's nothing wrong with that, buI perhaps going downtown, singing some karaoke and finding yourself a nice Japanese girlfriend might be a beneficial option for someone facing the challenges you may or may not find yourself dealing with in regard to the anger you obviously feel when visiting he board. Just trying to help. It's not good to be upset all the time. Peace, brother.

[Gun Talk]

Gun owners will shrink back and consolidate in a handful of gun friendly states while the states that they left see their leftist politicians move on unchallenged to Washington and enact the same policies on a national level. Texas and Oklahoma may be safe, but that's the very reason gun owners should be taking thier agenda elsewhere. Because Texas and Oklahoma and the diminishing number of gun friendly states can't fight the rest of the country in Congress. Retreating and consolidating is a losing strategy. Every gun owner in every state needs to stand thier ground and do what M2 suggests, petitition every representative to throw out these bills and enact gun friendly legislation. If Colorado gun owners had so passionately expressed their beliefs to thier reps (as the left did) prior to the votes on these bills, it may well have turned out differently. Unfortunately, the conservative method of approaching a problem with a cooler, reserved, rational response isn't as effective in garnering popular attention to an issue as liberal, loud, emotional knee-jerk reactions.

Not buying houses, lift-tickets, and hunting licenses in Colorado isn't going to make a damn bit of difference on the gun issue. No one is going to correlate a negative economic impact with mistakes on a single issue in a state legislature. It'll be blamed on a whole host of broader economic political issues such as drugs, immigration, etc. What liberal politician wouldn't relish the fact that all he would have to do to get conservatives to leave his state would be voting for anti-gun legislation?

Stay and fight. Saying you'll be forced to surrender your weapon or suffer a Waco is, as of now, a false dilemma. There's still time to keep it that way.

[Taxes, the Deficit/Debt, and the Fiscal Cliff]

This statement says far more about you than anything I ever could.

1) rebuttal

2) I don't declare my own intellectual superiority. I know that I don't know everything, and if someone presents a case that makes more sense than the idea I previously had, I embrace it. But, that requires at least a bare minimum objective standard of proof. People here are, by contrast, set in the rigidity of their ways and go for the hyperbolic moral superiority argument instead of basing it on facts. You could pretty much rename this subforum from "Squadron Bar" to "[citation needed]".

Your analysis is pretty terrible, man. Poking holes in bad arguments and making sarcastic jokes doesn't mean I'm elevating myself above anyone. If anything, I'm just knocking people off of their high horses.

Naturally, you're not going to agree with any critical analysis of yourself and deem it as "terrible". Perhaps it is, but you're not the person I would look to ask. You're constantly referring to the "People here", "the forum members", etc. It's as if you have an inability to discern individuals from the collective. That's called "making a generalization". I only point that out because you're often ranting against broad characterizations and such. Very odd.

But this is what I liked about your post: "I'm just knocking people off thier high horses". I applaud your honesty. Now if only you could make the connection between moral superiority/narcissiscm and knocking people off high horses, you might be on to something. (Hint: hypocrisy)

[Gun Talk]

Absolutely it is worth it. There are some things worth sacrificing material comfort for.

It's called taking a stand on principles.

I completely understand, brick and I was hoping that was a point someone would make.

However, I'd like to present the argument that "taking your ball and going home" isn't "taking a stand on principles". it's retreating, it's shrinking away. Boycotting nearly always fails, because it is, almost by definition, an intentional failure to act as opposed to taking an action. If moving elsewhere were to be gun owner's primary tactic of fighting the 2nd amdendment battle, they'll eventually run out of states to move to.

[Taxes, the Deficit/Debt, and the Fiscal Cliff]

Of ######ing course revenues are based on GDP, what economics class did you fail out of?

I guess you can sit there and think about an internet forum you posted on 20 years ago, and say "I told you so" as a motorcycle death squad in the dystopian future rapes and murders everyone in your refugee camp. Congrats.

Seriously, for as much doom and gloom as everyone on this thread is predicting, I sure don't see a whole lot of people taking steps to protect themselves from the complete anarchy and breakdown society that's so totally gonna happen soon. I guess you can tell your family about how you were right all along! You know, as you're all getting raped and murdered.

On a side note, I notice that many people here share three traits. Ideological purity, belief in both moral and intellectually superiority, and broad, sweeping statements that sound an awful lot like dramatic hyperbole. Maybe this message board is a compilation of the most brilliant economic and political minds ever EVER that can predict the future. And they all just happen to be military aircrew, not even experts in the field! Or it could be an unchecked echo chamber of pure narcissism.

Nah, probably the brilliant minds thing.

I typically don't post much here, but I thought it worth pointing out that all of your posts follow a distinct pattern..

It's always a snide rebuttle followed by sarcastic praise and ridicule of forum members in general. Always. It's interesting that you fail to see obvious hypocrisy in attempting elevate yourself above the "narcissists" on the forum using insults, in declaring your own intellectual superiority by way of mocking the forum in general, and using broad statements and exaggerations to rail against... ahem, "sweeping generalizations and hyperbole".

You should really lighten up and come to realize you are exactly all the things you're pretending to denigrate. Happy trolling.

[Gun Talk]

What sucks the most for me is two months ago, within the same week, I had been hunting, fishing, skiing, climbing, paragliding, mountain biking, golfing, to an NFL game, and camping all within an hours drive from my house. And I can do the quick tour of the Coors factory (3 free beers) anytime I want if I have 20 free minutes. Fvck this blows.

Glad I decided to rent for a year to get a feel for the area. Makes it a lot easier to pull chocks.

So you're giving up "hunting, fishing, skiing, climbing, paragliding, mountain biking, golfing, NFL games, camping, and free Coors" because of a 15 round magazine limit and background checks.

I understand it sucks... but damn.

[RPA/Cyber has their medal on the way]

Medals. Serious Bidness.