14N Guy

Congrats! On the retirement, and the promotion, I guess. I think you are getting the better deal with the retirement.

Right, totally get it. Sorry, edited my post as your were responding to better flesh out my thoughts. I know I will never get an answer from AF leadership, but I would love to hear an explanation of their thought process on when they pass over folks that have been given a DP at any level for folks that have a P.

Isn't that what the MLR is for? So individuals at units that don't have enough eligibles for a DP have a chance at getting a DP? I get IPZ folks with a P getting selected, but I can't understand APZ folks with a DP not being selected over APZ folks with a P. It's all moot at this point, but it is just head scratching to me.

Just looked at the LAF-I board stats. 3 APZ DP's (IDE Complete) were not selected (9/12 eligible), but 5 APZ P's (IDE complete) were selected (5/186 eligible). Looking at all of the other boards, the same thing happened. So how does that make any sense at all? How does the board justify selecting any APZ P over any APZ DP, especially when they all have IDE complete? That is actually a serious question, because, if a DP is supposed to be a significant identifier, especially for APZ folks, how do you promote people that weren't awarded a DP over those that were?

according to my.af.mil, at 0900 CST.

Promotion statistics posted: Competitive Category CONS IPZ % SEL CONS APZ SEL % SEL OPERATIONS 605 480 79.3 589 35 5.9 PILOT 420 337 80.2 361 26 7.2 NAVIGATOR 130 103 79.2 172 8 4.7 AIR BATTLE MANAGER 55 40 72.7 56 1 1.8 NONRATED OPS 178 129 72.5 235 19 8.1 MISSION SUPPORT 479 380 79.3 431 32 7.4

Correct. He also went out of his way to get me a DP this time. I’m not upset, or anything, I’m just raising my eyebrow a little bit.

I found out on Friday through unofficial channels that I was not selected. It is what it is, unfortunately.

Quick update; 1550 day before official release and I still have not received official notification of my non-selection. Maybe tomorrow morning?

Tell me the system is still broken without telling me the system is still broken.

Does anybody know how much weight a DP actually gives your record to the board? Everything I’ve ever heard/been told is that a DP is a golden Beebee in all but the most extreme cases of adverse records. Does a DP add X points to your total board score? I guess what I don’t understand is how there is any justification for promoting any record with a P over a record with a DP (again, excluding records with negative indicators…but again, somebody gave them a DP so…)? I will be very interested in seeing the RAW data for this promotion because I know they always promote at least one APZ record with a P. So how would the board justify promoting a P APZ record and not a DP APZ record (not that any board will ever be held accountable for any decision they make)? Any insight is welcome because I don’t think I have ever received a clear explanation on what a DP really does for your board score.

I wouldn’t use any of us (if that’s what you are doing) as an indicator of you getting selected/not selected. I fully believe I didn’t get picked up for personal reasons, not professional reasons. Edit- to answer your question, I received an email saying I was selected for continuation and to talk with my Group leadership about the next steps. I signed the paperwork in my Gp/CD’s office a few days later. You should get the option of continuing to 20 or 24 years, but it isn’t an ADSC, just an option. I chose the 24 years but I am getting out in 24 months.

I agree that it is head scratching to not get selected after an MLR has already boarded your records. Last year (at least for my board), every single DP was selected for promotion. I do wish we would get a better explanation of the thought process behind scoring records than, “Well, sometimes it happens.”

Found out I was not selected. DP from the MLR as a 4x APZ. Board went against a BG(s) recommendation. It is a relief to know that I only have 24 months left in service. I am looking forward to finding an employer that actually wants me as part of the team and putting all my Air Force stuff in a box and forgetting about it. Best of luck to those still waiting to hear!

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