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Air-to-Air kills for Gunners?


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Just watching some WWII movie and a question just came to me...

Pilots that shoot down another aircraft get "kills", five to be an ace but,

what did the gunners (B-17, etc.) get when they shot down another aircraft?

I tried ye old Google with no luck (although somebody will prove me wrong).

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Guest John Cocktosten

The AF Historical Research Center has a website that has every kill listed since Korea. You can find it here. I did a search for B-29s and B-52s and the gunners are listed as the dudes with the credit.

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Guest monkeypoo

In the Vietnam war two B-52 tail-gunners got one-kill each in 1972. SSgt. Samuel Turner on 18 Dec. and A1C Albert Moore on 24 Dec. Both kills were made using a .50 cal. Cool stuff. :M16:

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Hypothetical: How would an air-to-air kill be scored (ie - who would get credit) if it was a gunship taking out a helicopter below it? And.... what if the person firing the weapon was the enlisted sensor operator in a trainable gun mode of fire rather than the pilot?

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The AF Historical Research Center has a website that has every kill listed since Korea. You can find it here. I did a search for B-29s and B-52s and the gunners are listed as the dudes with the credit.

Heritage Hall, a USAF Museum dedicated to USAF (and AAC) enlisted men & women, has a nice section describing kills made by air - air gunners - with credit to the gunner. It's at Gunter and is a great place to visit if you're there and have some free time.

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