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    ACTIVE PSDM 23-54: 2024 Active Duty Flying Training Board

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    5 minutes ago, goboldtigers said:

    Anybody know how it works to get their dates pushed to the right? I've received UPT RIPs and vmpf notification, but we're expecting a child around the time I'm supposed to PCS and class up. I told AFPC a month ago and my commander is looking into it but so far it's all fallen on deaf ears

    Yeah, so I received notification of assignment selection in my email and it had me go into VMPF. Once I logged in, it asked if I was okay with the currently fragged RNLTD. I said yes because I’m trying to get the show on the road. However, before you do say yes and move on to the Initial Assignment Briefing, there’s an option in there to get your RNLTD pushed to the right. There’s a form you can print or electronically send that allows you to request different dates and it then needs to be signed by your FL/CC and SQ/CC. Have you received that email? If you haven’t received the email, or didn’t see the option, I’d contact your local MPF. 

    ACTIVE PSDM 23-54: 2024 Active Duty Flying Training Board

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    6 hours ago, Arkbird said:

    Are you RPA? You won't have to go again. 

    Two years ago, people who did go went anywhere from March to May with UPT start dates ranging from June/July all the way into the following January.

    I am, yeah. Well that's good to know. I've been getting conflicting information from people. Logically it doesn't make sense to go back, but AFPC made it sound like there was a possibility so then I got all confuddled 😞 

    ACTIVE PSDM 23-54: 2024 Active Duty Flying Training Board

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    37 minutes ago, EyesOnTheSkies said:

    Does anyone know when IFT dates are expected to be released? On the PSDM it says that for IFT we will “receive a training RIP shortly after release of this PSDM.” Not sure if the delayed UPT date release applies to IFT as well

    I asked AFPC this question as well, more specially if I even had to go, since I've already been and completed the full IFT syllabus. They said that was up to schedulers to decide if I did have to go back or not. If I did end up having to go back, they said it would be most likely end up being a TDY sometime this summer.  

    ACTIVE PSDM 23-54: 2024 Active Duty Flying Training Board

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    I reached out to AFPC regarding when we can expect our date and location notifications, 

    "Due to 19AF resets of training programs all training scheduling is on standby and no UPT training is expected to be added until March timeframe.  RNLTD is normally 30-45 days prior to Class Start Date. And RIP pis expected 1-2 months prior to RNLTD.  You could be scheduled anytime throughout the year.  If you have not heard anything by end of March get back to us and we’ll ask schedulers for anticipated training dates and location.  Too soon right now."

    So, we might be waiting a little while. 

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    ACTIVE PSDM 23-54: 2024 Active Duty Flying Training Board

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    1 hour ago, nolifepilot said:

    37th! There've been some not too chill times like early wakeups and late days, but I have genuinely enjoyed every single moment of it and even sitting in a class where I'm about to fall asleep and bored out of my mind I'm still like "damn this is the coolest thing ever."

     

    For SA purposes for y'all, I was prior RPA and already had a medical clearance and a PPL so I wasn't required to go back for anymore medical testing or to IFT again.  If anyone has questions about URT feel free to reach out. Last year I found out my RNTLD and base 30 Jan which was about two weeks after we heard the selection results. I originally had a RNLTD of 6 May to Columbus with a 6 Jun class start date. I worked as the person who sent out RIPs to people as my casual job, and at least at Columbus, all of our RNTLDs were exactly one month prior to the projected start date. I moved my PCS date up to 1 April because I wanted to escape my last base as quickly as possible and so I got to Columbus 6 Apr.

     

    Once I got to CAFB, I was given about a month without any type of casual job to get settled and in-processed. During this time, my only responsibility was to go in and sign a piece of paper at 0800 on Tuesdays. After that month, I started my casual job of working as a transition manager which are the people that in-process all the students who get to base. It was super chill, our schedule was to work 2-3 days a week for a 4 hr shift. For a casual job, you could be a TM like me, or do anything else the base needed like being a sqdn/group/wing exec, working SF, doing drug tests, being a scheduler in a flight room, working the pharmacy, etc, it all depended on manning numbers when you arrived. If you showed up and told the trans flt/cc that you had a casual job in mind then they normally put you in that role. People that showed up with either a class start date or IFT within a month generally didn't get casual jobs since they wouldn't have the time to get spun up/spun down before they left. Most casual jobs let their people go 1 month prior to start dates so you just kind of hang out, and then class activities start 10-days out before your class date.

     

    My 6 June class start date got moved back to 11 Sep but I think these days people's dates are generally staying the same and not moving. We were in preflight (academics and sims) from 11 Sep to 13 Dec during which you generally have classes and sims most days out of the week. The schedule isn't terrible at all, we'd have maybe 3-4 hrs of class 3/5 days a week and a sim 2-3 days a week as well. When you didn't have a class or a sim, you were free to do whatever you wanted and be wherever you wanted. I did most of my CBTs from at home plopped on my couch. It's very self-paced and self-guided but the sim IPs and classmates are always available if you need them.

     

    I've heard one thing that differed CAFB from the other UPT bases was that as soon as you finished preflight you hit the flightline, i.e. the class ahead of me finished preflight and then the next day had their dollar rides. Because the flightline was so backed up though, my class finished preflight and then had 6 weeks of nothing before we had our dollar rides. But the class behind me only had a few days, so it apparently is really dependent on your squadron and how backed up the flightline is. Now that we're on the flightline, we're on formal release and have been told to expect to be on formal until at least we all pass our trans check which I think is a month or 2? With formal, expect to be in the flightroom for 12 hrs a day before getting released. This past week our schedule was 0530-1730. I never thought I'd say it but those 12 hrs go by fast. We're flying normally 3 times a week and have a USEM event (emergency procedures standup, shotgun questions for the room, classes, etc) generally every day. We have a pretty generous "be able to get back within 15 mins" so we're cleared to go to the gym, study elsewhere, lunch, etc as long as you're able to get back quickly. Again, this stuff is all pretty CAFB and sqdn dependent, but I know that when I was in y'all's shoes last year I was hungry for every bit of info I could get my hands on.

    That's fantastic info. Thanks brotha. We appreciate you. 

    ACTIVE PSDM 23-54: 2024 Active Duty Flying Training Board

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    15 hours ago, Wx2Flt said:

    A fellow CGO who got selected last year, who's currently there, told me folks PCS'd as early as Feb/March. And per the PSDM release, the older you are (like me, already having an Age Waiver), the more likely you'll get an earlier PCS date to Pensacola (UCT) training... but, (at least at UCT), it seems like their training is getting backed up, causing a delay in classes, and folks stuck in the pipeline.

    Per the memorandum, "Officers selected for rated duties from the UFT board may receive short-notice assignments and/or training as early as March 2024." So, if we get assignments for Feb, it's officially confirmed, they hate us. 

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