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6 hours ago, gearhog said:
Oh no! Mind if I ask how old you are? It seems you are either very young, or stumbled through life without learning how to write in a way that doesn't make you look stilted and awkward. We're not going to meet, so you should stop trying to imagine it.
An assurance of authority is not authority. It's a cop out. He's using technicalities to shirk his duties. I don't think you understand how the legal process works. Do you think a person must be guilty before being charged? There is a compendium of evidence (see the link I posted in the first page of this thread to the complete contents of his laptop) that he committed crimes. MTG presented some of that evidence. It was pretty shocking, but what do you do when you, as a legislative body, pass laws that are not enforced by the judiciary? There is enough probable cause and evidence to indict by any reasonable standard, but it hasn't happened because the process has become political, and two-tiered. You certainly wouldn't be given the same treatment should your laptop be investigated. I have never once used the word guilty. You did. As for the rest... lol.
I realize there is no nudity for you to get worked up over in the documents that were released today, but if you can read better than you can write, you may find something even more shocking:
Oh no, he criticized one excerpt of my writing on a conservative, far right forum without ever seeing anything I have written professionally. I don’t treat this forum as a professional venue because it’s not. You are quick to judge without any sort of big picture…kind of like your opinions about Hunter Biden. I’m beyond glad we will never meet.
I don’t give a flying about any of your insane far right conspiracy theories about Burisma. Again, you are just parroting the pundits and posting these documents where you scream “OMG, it’s the smoking gun”, when in reality it’s nothing. How many times have I seen such documents amount to absolutely nothing? It has to be at least 100 times. The claims in that document are unverified per the FBI, see below article:
You know what unverified means, right? To spell it out for you, it means there’s no proof. You can release a million documents that claim all sorts of things, but it means nothing without concrete evidence. It’s very similar to all of the fraudulent election claims the far right made. You know, the claims that didn’t turn up a single shred of evidence even after multiple investigations. Your primary counter argument to this will probably be “BuT wHaT aBoUT TrUmP anD ThE DeMs wHeN hE WAs PrESIDEnt?” I suggest you try something other than whataboutism.
Republicans are the ones obsessed with Hunter Biden’s dick. How long have you been bringing his dick up? 5 years? Now you are showing the pictures publicly in Congress like a bunch of pathetic losers desperately trying to pin a crime on President Biden by using the mistakes of his troubled son. It’s time to move on and actually start focusing on some form of governance.
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3 hours ago, gearhog said:
What about the 10 July letter is different?
"I wish to make one point clear: in this case, I have not requested Special Counsel designation pursuant to
28 CFR § 600 et seq. Rather, I had discussions with Departmental officials regarding
potential appointment under 28 U.S.C. § 515, which would have allowed me to file charges
in a district outside my own without the partnership of the local U.S. Attorney. I was
assured that I would be granted this authority if it proved necessary. And this assurance
came months before the October 7, 2022, meeting referenced throughout the whistleblowers’
allegations. In this case, I’ve followed the process outlined in my June 30 letter and have
never been denied the authority to bring charges in any jurisdiction.
So, at this moment, does he, or does he not, currently have legal authority to file charges? I am asking you. If not, why not? You tell me.
What is there to concede? Your assessment of what is and is not acceptable is 100% purely subjective based on your own personal biases. You don't want a concession, you just want me to agree with your opinion. Hunter Biden is not a public figure? What is the litmus test that you use to proclaim who is and is not a public figure?
You're just spouting opinions. Not a single one of your grievances is based in a rule or law. Do you normally feign moral outrage and expect people to surrender just because you threw a hissyfit over your hurt feelings? Protip: This debate tactic does not work. Many people here are providing evidence of legal wrongdoing. If you want to participate, you should too.
Oh, look.. The family values guy with a moral superiority complex is sarcastically pretending to quote Jesus.
You highlighted the applicable parts for me. He was assured he had full authority. What else do you want him to say? There’s nothing that would change your mind at this point about the innocence of Hunter Biden. He is guilty in your mind no matter what I say and you are just spouting the talking points you get from your pundits/podcasts/whatever far right media you ravenously consume like a brainwashed far right lemming.
It’s not just my opinion, but that doesn’t matter to you either. You support MTG and her actions. Your grievances that are supposedly based on the rule of the law haven’t even been charged. You are condemning a man who is innocent until proven guilty. That is a fact.
I never claimed to be a family values guy, but your party sure has over and over. I’m just somebody who thinks showing nudes of the President’s son in Congress in an attempt to humiliate him and “own the Libs” is ing pathetic. If you don’t see that, then we won’t ever see eye to eye and if I ever met you in person I’d probably dislike you for being a brainwashed far right loon since it would probably be your personality.
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11 minutes ago, GrndPndr said:
Thank you for your contribution to our board.
You’re welcome. I had no problems with the pre-Tea Party Republican Party. Their platform was reasonable and the vast majority of them were decent human beings who just happened to disagree with Democrats. Post Tea Party, something happened that turned the core of the Republican Party absolutely rotten. It’s only gotten worse with people like MTG and Boebert saying and doing disgusting things for attention. I guess the party of family values enjoys showing photos of a guy having sex in Congress. One of Jesus’ teachings was “Thou shalt show revenge porn photos of your enemies in a public political forum.”
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1 hour ago, gearhog said:
Who is misleading? Weiss said he had "ultimate authority" to bring charges against Hunter Biden. After the whistleblowers, he wrote this:
"As the U.S. Attorney for the District of Delaware, my charging authority is geographically limited to my home district. If venue for a case lies elsewhere, common Departmental practice is to contact the United States Attorney’s Office for the district in question and determine whether it wants to partner on the case. If not, I may request Special Attorney status from the Attorney General pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 515. Here, I have been assured that, if necessary after the above process, I would be granted § 515 Authority in the District of Columbia, the Central District of California, or any other district where charges could be brought in this matter."
So he attempts to confuse and complicate the issue by essentially saying:
"I do have ultimate authority, but only if I request Special Counsel Status from the Attorney General. He told me I would get it if I asked for it, but I haven't asked for it. Until I ask for Special Counsel status, prosecution can only be brought by the DOJ in DC, California, or elsewhere, so I don't have authority until I ask for it, and I haven't asked for it, but if I did, I would. Until I do, I simply cannot charge Hunter Biden with any crimes, but I could if the AG lets me."
LOL. What a joke.
So you acknowledge that the photos may be photographic evidence of crimes being committed. I'll settle for that.
He wrote that entire section you quoted in the 30 June/1 July letter and then later on in that same later affirmed he had full authority. He then said he had full authority in the 10 July letter. You keep quoting the 1 July letter without referencing the 10 July letter. You are cherry picking your argument just like Rep Jordan was and intentionally being misleading. Weiss will probably have to testify and he will say the same thing again. You are the joke.
It’s worthless arguing with you because you can’t even concede the point that showing nude photos to the public of an individual within the halls of the US Congress is in poor taste. You are so far down the far right rabbit hole that you support the actions of MTG, who is an actively serving politician and individual of low moral character as opposed to Hunter Biden who is neither a politician or public figure.It’s extremely disheartening to see that I serve side by side with people who support MTG and her trashy actions. Hunter Biden is innocent until proven guilty with regard to the Mann Act regardless of whatever conspiracy theories Republicans come up with. It’s a good thing you can’t convict with solely Whistleblower testimony and pictures of having sex. Show the proof beyond a reasonable doubt and I’ll be glad to see him go to jail. However, it will always be trashy, pathetic, and disgusting to publicly show those pictures during a Congressional hearing. There is nothing that will change my mind on that point, and I’d like to think that any decent person would feel the same way.
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23 minutes ago, gearhog said:
Correct, he did say that but only before the testimony of the whistleblowers that detailed how the investigations were stymied by the DOJ. Immediately after, he contacted Jordan and the IRS and said he did not have the authority to prosecute Hunter. Why did he waffle?
It's still odd that your delicate sensitivities are offended by photographic evidence of crimes being committed, but not by the crimes themselves.
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1681742609864163331?s=20
LOL, Jim Jordan is straight up misleading here. In the June 30 letter he references Weiss never stated he did not have full authority, and Weiss sticks to those guns in the most recent 10 July letter referenced by the articles above.
Finally, there was 0 reason to blast those nudes in a public forum for the whole world to see. There are better, less trashy ways to show at the hearing what you claim to be "photographic evidence of crimes being committed." He hasn't been charged with a crime, nor has he been proven guilty of Mann Act violations in a court of law. Until then, those photos may be photographic evidence of crimes being committed, or just Hunter Biden having sex. Everybody is innocent until proven guilty, am I right?
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9 minutes ago, gearhog said:
Weiss said he did not have the authority to do so. Weiss deferred to the DC US Attorney, who had decided not to bring charges. Trump is no longer around, and Weiss was afraid of the consequences, so he punted.
That is 100% false. Weiss himself said that he had full authority, see the following articles: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/10/us/politics/david-weiss-hunter-biden-irs.html
https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-attorney-david-weiss-asked-special-counsel-status/story?id=101009886
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/delaware-us-attorney-hunter-biden-justice-department-authority/
https://nypost.com/2023/07/10/hunter-biden-prosecutor-denies-requesting-special-counsel/
Anyway, it's worthless arguing about this anymore since neither of us will change our stance. But the burden is on you and your far right republican nut jobs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Hunter Biden committed crimes beyond his plea deal.
I'll return to my original premise: showing Hunter Biden's nudes in a US Congress hearing is a pathetic and disgusting shock tactic that is representative of the modern Republican Party.
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4 minutes ago, gearhog said:
Are you saying because Weiss was appointed by Trump, that he is incapable of failing to uphold the law? I would assume you have a low opinion of Trump. How is it you're using Trump's appointment to defend Weiss? It doesn't make any sense.
I suggest you watch the full whistleblower video:
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1681738640320507904?s=20
I'm saying that any Trump-appointed U.S. attorney would be beyond excited to uphold the law, especially regarding Hunter Biden. With all of this supposed evidence, it should have been a slam dunk for Weiss and the charges should have been brought forth, especially since Weiss had full authority to do so.
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18 minutes ago, gearhog said:
How is it you saw a photo of Green holding up these photos, but have no idea of the context? It's a simple search.
Hunter Biden paid prostitutes through his law firm, OWASCO PC, and trafficked his victims across state lines in violation of the Mann Act. Not only that, IRS whistleblowers confirm Hunter Biden committed tax fraud by deducting payments to prostitutes from OWASCO’s taxes.
Lol, so a Trump appointed U.S. attorney (Weiss) decided not to bring violation of the Mann Act charges against Hunter Biden, even with these two whistleblowers and all of this "damning" evidence against Hunter Biden? You live in an absolute fantasy land of conspiracies.
I'd be willing to take all of this back if you show me the PROOF of these whistleblower's claims. Something tells me that will not be the case. Until you show me the proof (not just nudes and two whistleblowers gabbing it up), this is just one of a million far right conspiracy theories.
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20 minutes ago, gearhog said:
As you know, Department of Justice is headed by the US Attorney General, and reports directly to the POTUS.
How likely is it that the US Attorney General (Executive Branch) would pursue charges against Hunter?
He documented himself committing crimes and our justice system is not providing justice. What should the Legislative branch do when laws they pass fail to be upheld?
What makes you more upset: Crimes being committed and not prosecuted, or evidence of crimes being revealed?
Lol, because photos of Hunter Biden having sex is evidence of a crime. Show me the direct linkage. Find the alleged prostitute and have her testify. Show me some real evidence that proves "beyond a reasonable doubt" of Hunter Biden's crimes. These photos certainly don't prove "beyond a reasonable doubt." The photos are just a pathetic far right Republican nut job shock tactic that absolutely obliterates the decency of the US Congress.
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3 minutes ago, slc said:
Why are you looking at Hunter Biden nude pics??
Why did a Republican congresswoman look at them first and then show them to Congress? Are Republicans that obsessed with Hunter Biden's dick? Do you get off on seeing and showing what is essentially revenge porn of the President's son?
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7 minutes ago, gearhog said:
If "Ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.
It didn't happen to Trump's children. It happened to Hunter Biden, the son of the President, a man of low moral character who was committing crimes while conducting untold millions worth of fraudulent business transactions with his father, the President, and using the Office of the President and Vice President to do it.
Ok, cool. If Hunter Biden committed crimes, then I want him to go to jail. If President Biden committed crimes, then I want him to go to jail. Why does that require showing Hunter Biden nudes to Congress in a public forum?
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What is the right's (and this forum's) obsession with Hunter Biden? Why is this forum's favorite girl MTG showing Hunter Biden nudes during the House Oversight Committee? Why are you far right nut jobs cheering that MTG showed these pictures to Congress? MTG showing these photos is one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen, and further depicts the far right Idiocracy that is the modern Republican Party.
If you are happy about this or support this action, you are way too far gone down the far right nut job rabbit hole. There's no bringing you back, and nothing you say or do would ever convince me to think of you as a decent person.
If pictures like this were shown of Trump's children, the crazies on this forum would have an aneurysm and call for the head of the Democrat who showed the pictures. What an absolute embarrassment for Republicans.
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2 hours ago, FourFans said:
P.S. Life isn't fair. Trying to make it 'fair' as defined by one section of society only makes it worse.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
I guess you forgot the first and most significant part of the Preamble to the Constitution. Life may not be fair, but we should always be striving to ensure we achieve "Liberty and Justice for all." What does Justice mean?
Justice, in its broadest sense, is the concept that individuals are to be treated in a manner that is equitable and fair.
This is what people fail to remember when they say "Life isn't fair" or "Fairness is socialism" or "DEI is racism". They forget that the very first objective the Preamble states is to "Establish Justice." Even if you interpret Justice in this context to mean Justice in the eyes of the law, that still requires fairness.
I cringe at almost everything the modern Republican does these days since its goes directly against the Constitution.
Diminish and seek to eradicate LGBTQ+ people? That's definitely establishing justice.
Eliminate programs like DEI and the ultra scary "Critical Race Theory" that seek to highlight institutional discrimination? Lots of justice there.
Create a state where armed individuals/cops can essentially kill whoever they want (especially minorities) while suffering 0 consequences? Definitely a more perfect Union with a ton of justice.
Denying the outcome of a free and fair election without a shred of evidence to back-up any of their claims? Dang man, those Republicans really want Justice.
I could go on and on with examples of Republicans ignoring the Constitution, much like how Fourfans just ignored Prozac's post and keeps asking him "Why, Why, Why", showing an excellent example of the start of the infinite regress fallacy. No matter what Prozac types, Fourfans will just keep asking him "Why" so he can attempt to win the online argument. This is a very common tactic that weak debaters use to defend their weak positions. Definitely not surprised to see it on this forum.
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Hunter Biden Thread
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Posted · Edited by 500Stable
Lol, I am moderated indefinitely by HeloDude, so this will be my last post.
I posted on this thread specifically to show the ridiculousness of this forum. Anybody with common decency who isn't part of the far right should disagree with MTG's shock tactics and disgusting behavior within the US Congress. The fact that none of the regulars on this forum will concede this point is indicative of the Republican Party's rapid ethical degradation. The Republican Party has death spiraled into a party that no longer represents true conservatism. The twisted version of conservatism that MTG, Boebert, Gaetz, Trump, and several others represent has nothing to do with traditional values and institutions. Republicans are electing people who rape, cheat, and perform actions in Congress that continue to erode the dignity of the US Government.
Hunter Biden is not an elected official. He does not represent the Democratic Party in any official capacity, yet he has been the target of Republicans for five years. Even after he took a plea deal, Republicans continue to obsess over him. Republicans then celebrate the public display of his nude photos, and MTG even sent them via e-mail to her constituents. None of you see anything wrong with that? If someone is suspected of crimes (not even charged), then it is now OK to show their nude photos to the entire public within the US Congress and via e-mail? That type of worldview is insane. Republicans hate Hunter Biden so much they are gleeful when humiliating him over and over again. This is what "highly educated and highly trained professional pilots and navigators" like to see in their politics? If this forum is representative of U.S. Air Force rated officers, then I weep for the future of any diverse officers who find themselves under the command of a far right lunatic.