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  1. On 4/12/2024 at 12:40 PM, Chida said:

    Assuming you will be twice failed of selection:

    1. You can request an earlier DOS than the one they give you via Form 780. I'd recommend no less than 2 mos to give you time to outprocess.

    2. If you are interested in ARC service, you must request a waiver in conjunction with getting a unit to hire you. The waiver (at least in the past) has to be signed off by the losing & gaining WG/CCs, then goes to NGB for ANG or AFRC HQ for AFRES. It can take a couple months, so you should lay the groundwork now with a unit and your ANG or Reserve ISR (in-service recruiter). When you obtain your DOS, have the recruiter immediately put you on the scroll to obtain a reserve commission as that process can take a while.

    2a. There's a gotcha here. If you have a break in service between Reg and ARC, you will be ineligible for promotion until 365 days has elapsed as a reserve. You should do the "Palace Front" program. The ISR should know all about it, but the bottom line is that until you get a reserve commission via scroll, do not leave RegAF.

    3. If you write a letter to the board which causes your 2nd non-selection, you will not get separation pay. If you eventually get a reserve retirement pension or VA disability payment, you would need to pay back separation pay anyway, so this may not be a big deal unless you need the money now.

    4. Speaking of VA disability, if there are any issues you don't have adequately documented with the medical folks, now is the time to get it done.

    5. Prepare for a civilian job. Charm school, suit, lose weight, resume, applications, logbook, mil to civilian certs, ATP, 1st class med, etc. All this takes loads of time.

    Have you ever heard of a WG/CC not signing a waiver?  Should you request to be scrolled as a captain after being passed over the first time?

  2. On 6/5/2023 at 5:16 PM, RedEye1911 said:

    An update:
    My plan worked to perfection.

    Separated with 120+ days of leave, took ~90 terminal, paid the rest.
    Got hired by a legacy airline and started with ~60 days left on terminal. The airline asked zero questions about any Air Force promotion stuff.
    Got the plane and domicile I wanted straight out of training. I'm already a line holder.

    Holy crap the airline life quality of life is a million times better than the Air Force. Zero queep. Zero outside work work.
    Zero mission planning. Zero paperwork. Brief and debrief? Maybe a total of five minutes combined per day of flying.

    I am so glad I got passed over and wrote a letter for the second board. I was told I am a legend in my old squadron and tales are being told of how I played by their rules and won.

    Do it. The letter is due in November. It is completely different if you are selected for major and then decline. You must not get selected, and a letter is a good way to do that.

    Here's something like the memo I wrote:

    MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
    
    FROM: Capt Cool Dude
    
    SUBJECT: Non-Consideration For Promotion to Major
    
    1. I do not wish to be considered for promotion to the rank of Major for board ABCDEFG123.
    
    2. I fully understand the consequences described in AFI36-3207 and AFI36-2501 that will result from not being selected for promotion to Major a second time.
    
    3. For questions regarding this memorandum, please feel free to contact my Executive Officers at DSN 123-4566 or lameGuys@us.af.mil.
    
    														Signature block

    Ping me if you have questions. Tell your friends and anyone else that wants out early.

    I have zero regrets.

    We could have a recession tomorrow and I could get furloughed. Zero regrets would still exist.

    Congrats, glad it worked out so well for you

     

    Any retribution for doing this from leadership?  Did they find out about the first letter since you need to be twice non selected?

     

    Were they aware this was a rule or did you have to fight for it with AFPC?  My big fear is they would just ignore me.

     

  3. On 7/14/2021 at 6:22 PM, dream big said:

    Covid hit, and their job on the outside no longer existed..bit a few folks in the ass who did what you are suggesting.  

    Just my opinion, I wouldn’t turn down promotion.  There are other avenues to still get out.  What does your commitment look like? 

    What are you referring to?  I was thinking about writing the board so I can leave a year or 2 early.  I am in the 2015 year group and if I decline promotion twice I was hoping I could get out 2 years earlier and potentially get hired.

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