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Cause the boyz n tha hood are always hard
You come talking that trash we'll pull your card
Knowing nothing in life but to be legit
Don't quote me boy, cause I ain't saying shit
Omg that just made my morning!
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I’d be offended too if someone accused me of wanting to hang out at Robbins, especially with Delta pilots...Nunya makes a funny joke and you go offensive...WTFO?All I hear about is their amazing upgrades and ps, but it’s amazing how quick that money talk disappears when the bill is due. Those guys never, ever pick up the tab.
Now the old NWAs - all night long baby!
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Tanker demand isn’t falling, one or a combination of the following will happen.
1. Demand in AOR is curtailed and managed correctly.
2. The way we deploy changes. (ie another of the 3 picks up the slack)
3. Contract AR will explode.
Agree on all points. Number 3 needs to happen - but as an old Omega bubba they just can’t compete with the Airlines and the demand is too much- on all fronts.
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Looks like the revolt (and numerous retirement papers and 1288) has raised some eyebrows. Word is that Reserve KC135’s will continue with 60 day deployments (for now).
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And Death of Stalin was excellent!
This was a great satire! I never would have see this otherwise so thanks for the plug! Highly recommend.
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In all fairness I do see the good you're talking about, but losing dwell protections is a kick in the nuts. It's kinda like what we have in the Guard where we have to pick between 12301d (vol) vs 12304b (invol) for our deployments. Invol gets you USERRA exemption and dwell protection but no early retirement credit. Vol gets you USERRA protection (not exemption) and no dwell protection but doest get you early retirement credit. You say, contingency orders get you USERRA exemption, and you'd be correct. BUT, when they keep sending us to NON-contingency TSPs (my last two "deployments), you do not get that exemption unless you choose to go voluntary. Supposedly this is supposed to be fixed, but the checks been in the mail for over 3 years now.
Exactly! The devil’s definitely in the non-existent details. I can’t see them approaching this any differently, or spending one dime more than they have to.
Again, it’s (swapping) in there as a placating measure, but there’s ZERO benefit to doing it even if the squadron has the people (which they won’t).
And how as a CC do you distinguish who gets to swap and who doesn’t?
Eyewash only my friends.
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Paragraph 1....YES! They're finally getting it!
Paragraph 2....blacked out for second.
3a....WTF!?!?! LONGER deployments?!?!
3d....So I get to pick between the blue pill or red pill, but the blue pill means losing dwell protections...
There’s some good in this. Things we should have done awhile ago.
The poison pill is no dwell protection for swap outs. They will be the first called up for the next ones.
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I personally appreciate the updates regarding the MFR. Let’s hope the changes between last month and final copy include the ability to split/share 120. Fingers crossed.
Yer stuck brah!!!
Coffee’s on me today!
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For those of you in UPT, this is not going to be the paradigm shift it is for crusty old reservists like me and many others posting here. It will be your normal. At 1:5 dwell, this will ensure 25 months between deployments, from the 15 months we have now. You will likely go with larger groups (the good old days) and maybe with good DETCOs have a fighting chance against the lunacy of today’s modern deployed Air Force management.
But here’s the downside:
In a good, well staffed squadron most people only deployed once every 30-36 months for 2 months. It sucked, but it was a manageable suck. Now you have several factors against this cycle (5 months every 4.5 years) going forward - KC46 conversions and C status from other AFRC 135 squadrons
- pilot shortfalls already creeping in before this decision
- reduced squadron manning
- ability to go to a 1:4 dwell on individual mob
With all these factors, and other unforeseen circumstances yet to play out, individuals will be deploying 5 months roughly every two years.
My ultimate fear is that when faced with the manning crisis, our ‘top (wo)men’ at AFRC will only double down on their idiocracy.
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For someone still in training, can you explain this? How do the longer deployments affect their job security as ARTs? Also, aren’t you guys shifting to AGRs?
Not job security - the security of being home every night with no real disruption.
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LtG Scobee MFR released. More details, but 120s for tankers have arrived.
Local leadership should be distributing it, I don’t have a copy yet to post.
Although I thought the Felicia comment was pretty funny...
Was told this UTA weekend would have more clarity by my OG - and I guess this is it. Haven’t read the MFR, but I will be stuck discussing it among the masses. I am truly sorry for the TOADs stuck with this mess, especially those brothers and sisters in my beloved squadron. A lot of us tried, fought against the machine and did everything we could save for mutiny. We gave them plenty of good options, and they didn’t choose any.
It was a good ride, but the reserves of my youth are gone. We took count last UTA and estimated that 80% of our TRs will be gone in 2 years (some immediately and others as their dwell expires from this years turn in the meat grinder).
For those considering continued life in the 135 reserves, it wasn’t a bad deal and the squadron level folks were amazing. But 4 months away from your loved ones and 5 months lost income is going to be catastrophic to most TRs.
In my case, I will lose AT LEAST $35,800, and that’s nothing compared to not being around the family. Many of our jr TR’s already have good airline jobs and are contemplating IMAs, or flat out separating.
Our ARTs are the hardest hit. The security they traded for just vanished. We have a few that will retire early, and others that just put their apps in. I only know of two of the younger ones that have indicated any desire to stay in. TWO.
In a squadron that was 100% manned on both ART/TR’s, AFRC has in one “hold my beer” decision decimated us. Where do we find such men...
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You, at some point in time, probably scoured these forums for valueable insight and probably cared about ops tempo.
Ummmmmmm, no. My buddy started the thread. The only valuable insight I’ve ever scoured on this forum was the movie thread (death of Stalin was fantastic btw), and I think that’s the only thread I’ve ever read on here besides this...Maybe? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - it’s not the forum’s fault, I just like other subjects!
Anyway, thanks for ‘over analyzing.’
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We (AFRC 135’s) are going to 120’s in country, 5 months total orders. NAF confirmation, Wing, OG, etc.
This is a huge issue to those of us that have fought for decades to keep the reserves as good as they can be.
The OP started the thread IMNSHO to get the word out as anyone considering what used to be a good gig in the early 00’s is now maybe not such a good deal.
But seriously- who the eff are you to tell people to ‘GTFO’ a forum because we are bringing attention to an idiotic policy that will be catastrophic to squadrons that we love?
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Mids pls delete all garbage not concerning the KC-135 120-day deployments. This is still developing, and there will be updated to talk about once the final message drops. Everybody else, make a new thread. GTFO here
Ummmmmmm, ok. It’s official policy per the NAF, acknowledged by our Wing and OG/CC’s. How they implement it? That’s a good question.
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This was from over 7 years ago. Took you this long to be outraged?
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I’m slow... but not outraged. And unfortunately, it doesn’t change the overall sentiment.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/45605173
YGTBFSM. I have served in some form for over half of my life. I’m a fourth generation (maybe even more) ‘soldier.’
We do what we do because it’s in our nature, and we are who we are. But always remember, ultimately: They. Don’t. Care. About. You.
I know it’s thread drift, but it goes to the larger overall issue in the Air Force.
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What are you drinking tonight Cheddar?
Wasn’t enough apparently
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Ugh. It’s my first time on the internets. Apologies.
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Reserve 135’s Shifting to 4 Month Taskings?!?!?!
in Air National Guard / Air Force Reserves
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When I was on the S80 I flew with my share of TWay CA’s. All but one bought, and bought and bought... and the other I only did a turn with. Now that was a double edged sword - after the third beer I was looking for a suicide prevention hotline. Then after another they had me in tears laughing. Those 10 hour layovers were ROUGH!!!!
Kidding. They were closer to 11
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