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12 hours ago, brabus said:
Big picture is Title 10/Title 32 are AD orders. AGR is generally Title 32, but deployments and some schools (maybe some staff) is Title 10. Either way, these are AD “days” that go towards an AD retirement. As soon as you have 20 years of AD “days,” you are eligible for retirement and immediate retirement benefits (vs. waiting like a traditional guard retirement). Keep in mind, some squadrons are handing out years of AGR orders like candy, others are not. So where you want to live/what unit you want to be in could be on either side of that.
Also, bear in mind an AGR job and a civilian job will be governed by USERRA laws which requires an employer ‘retain’ you as an employee. While you serve on active duty orders, you still keep your civilian job **and accrue seniority** (for up to 5 years)
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18 hours ago, pawnman said:
Ours was a mandatory half up front. And I don't have $60k laying around to buy my way out of active duty.
Plus, in all honesty, I like my job, I like my jet, I like my coworkers. Sure, Big Blue took a dump on my career. But that doesn't mean I want to leave my current situation. I especially don't want to go ART and lose one weekend a month while still working during the week.
Repayment is not necessarily a given. My bonus didn’t have any up front cash options, but I separated 7 months after my annual payout anniversary and was told by finance as long as I had worked (earned) 50% of the bonus there would be no recoupment.
They haven’t taken anything back yet....
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21 hours ago, Excellius said:
Well, got the WG list here both selects and non selects. Unfortunately, I was IPZ non select. Expected it of sorts, but still a bit disappointed. SQ/CC still hasn’t told me yet directly.
Sorry to hear that; that was me two years ago, and me again last year. It forced me to make some career choice changes that I hadn’t planned on making for another 4-5 years. But I made the changes, jumped in the reserves and got a sweet civy job. This year my reserve PRF came back with a DP, oh and they didn’t reclaim any of my bonus and I got a big severance check to get out.
Getting passed over sucks.
But it opens other doors and opportunities.
And there are people out here that still want you, need you, and value your contributions.
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On 5/2/2019 at 7:32 AM, Klepto said:
Yet rumor also has it that one of those two lines must contain a strat of 1-n by rank meeting board and 1-n overall. That means the #100/100 guy will know immediately that he should update his airline apps.
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If this is accurate, this could be a good thing! Knowing what the boss truly thinks of would be a game changer.
With a moment of duplicity, I find it ironic that I want to know exactly where I stand while keeping my intentions as veiled as possible and playing their promotion game.
How soon before this evolves into the meaningless shell game of: your my #1IP, your my #1SNACO, your my #1Pubs Ofcr.
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On 2/28/2019 at 5:48 PM, Skitzo said:
Saw traffic that I think they are doing a mock board just like this along with the real board to see how this would turn out before executing. Smart move for once. Testing before executing and all.
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Are you talking about the MLR? Wing commanders have been coming together for years to stage a mock board at the MLR.
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On 2/28/2019 at 9:49 AM, olevelo said:
Pretty sure that's what it's been for the last several years. Remember, that doesn't mean they'll promote 85% of IPZ. It means the total number of people they'll promote is 85% of the number of IPZ, but the BPZ and APZ folks eat into that.
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+1 on this. Historical averages have been similar to this. If you’re in the zone with a DP it’s about 99% promote rate. IPZ with a P is about 45%. APZ with a P is less than 4%.
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17 hours ago, pawnman said:
I hope you're right, but previous years statistics seem to contradict your statement.
+1 on this. Previous statistics confirm less than 3% chance for ABZ, and no DP.
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9 hours ago, 14N Guy said:
I got mine back today. This is my 2APZ and my leadership has officially given up on me. Got a P with a “Def Promote”, SQ/CC and SDE push and no strats.
My 1APZ had a Group strat as a header and 2 Wing strats in the push line.
My 2APZ (written by the same organization and O-6 as last year) has no strats at all.
This is my second year in a boarded position and I was told my performance hadn’t dropped at all and I was doing better than my first year. However, people with better records joined the Group in the last 7 months and they got strated above me, so I lost all of my strats.
I asked if my leadership understood how this would make my OPR look and the message it would send to my next rater and they said yes, they understood and it is what it is.
When I asked how I was supposed to improve my record if my current year work performance counted for so little all I git was a shrug.
At the end of the day I know I will never get promoted and I have already accepted continuation. Unfortunately, I am struggling to GAS about the work I am currently doing and I know it is likely that the next job I go to will have even less of an operational impact.
But, as a senior leader told me after a discussion about my PRF, at least I don’t have to worry about following a specific track to success, because I can do whatever I want!
If you want to get promoted, transition to full time reserve/guard.
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11 hours ago, FourFans130 said:
Well, the USAF gave me its second thanks, but no thanks for O-5. Not that I expected much, but it was a last chance for big blue to plant a seed of hope that they see the light. I guess the pilot problem isn’t bad enough to need to give high time IPs hour a reason to stay.
My morale is gunna be pretty darn good...with delta, or southwest, or fedex, or...
Data point for the masses: clean record, 3300 hrs, MWS Pilot WO, JDAL staff complete...never touched the HPO track.
This is what the USAF does not want: professional combat expertise.
Palace front (hopefully) in 16 months. Apparently I have to avoid a BIS to keep my 20 year retirement viable.
What do you mean 'avoid a Break in Service to keep your retirement?'
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1 hour ago, IDALPHA said:
Did you do ASBC, then SOS in correspondence, then SOS in residence, then get a Masters, then ACSC in correspondence?
Or did you just fail a PT test?
No ASBC. SOS-C/R, Masters and ACSC-C complete. Never a failed PT test
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On 10/3/2018 at 12:49 PM, SocialD said:
Yup, TONS of opportunities out there if you're willing to travel or leave your airframe. Our OG seems to send out emails monthly with opportunities. The really scary ones are the ones asking not just for IPs, but simply Flight leads to help AD squadrons. The Guard has some pretty awesome hidden gems, one I was willing to give up flying for 2-3 years to do...before I got hired at the airlines.
Any of these opportunities giving up title 10 orders to get a guy to an AD retirement?
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On 10/5/2018 at 8:23 PM, Chicken said:
Any details on any of you getting passed over? P? DP? I'm a 4 APZ with a DP..
I'm a 1 APZ passed over with a P. I was optimistic with so many pilots punching that my chances would be improved for this look...I guess last years 3% promote rate of APZs with a P still holds true. I'm considering reserve transition to get a real chance at O-5.
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On 10/5/2018 at 4:01 PM, brickhistory said:
Not my place to offer advice, but...
That check of the month club is not something to just write off with 4.5 left. Hurts now; pays off for a lifetime later (been there, done that).
Not ever a 14N, however, there are lots of either meaningful and/or personally rewarding niche jobs out there for 14Ns. Worked with 'em lots - Green door stuff, three-letter agencies, etc. that The Man has to fill but doesn't care about. Get in there or somewhere like that, do a good job, and your post-AF career will take care of itself. The clearance(s) and contacts are worth $$. Don't just toss 'em.
This isn't about The Man anymore; this is about you and your family and what is best for them.
If you have post-AF plans/dreams, by all means, disregard all.
If not, set yourself up now for doing well after hanging up the uniform. Big Blue doesn't care now and won't then.
Hang tough; it's not personal (however much it feels that way), just numbers on a excel somewhere.
How hard has it been to find Reserve jobs with a steady availability of title 10 orders?
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19 hours ago, pawnman said:
Unpopular opinion... But if you took the bonus and the accompanying ADSC, you knew what you were signing up for. I'd personally be all for forcing folks with an ADSC for the bonus to serve it the remainder, regardless of promotion results.
This is more complicated then simply retaining officers after two failures to promote. Congressional end strength numbers need to be considered; which means retaining passed over FGOs would have a trickle down effect, prolonging the years spent as a captain until a vacancy at the O-4 level appears. Given AFPCs current track record at planning for end strength I am highly skeptical that they would get this right on the first try.
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