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On 10/11/2019 at 6:56 AM, Pmike said:
If you’re going to wright patt for your FC1 then yes, that will check the box for MFS as well.
Unless something has changed between this year and last, that is incorrect. If you have completed a FC1 at your base, the MFS follow up will take about 1/2 a day to complete, and you are not redoing what you've already done. (I.e. no depth perception testing) It is additional test like computer testing. For ROTC that would be correct, but for AD the FC1 you do at your base counts for what it is. You can find more information here. Please keep in mind that this information does describe the process for how the day goes. That is not necessarily correct, but the test it lays out is accurate. Hope that helps! Sorry to jump in on your thread, just came across looking to get updates on some friends who applied this year.
https://www.wpafb.af.mil/Welcome/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/853108/
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21 minutes ago, Smaggy said:
Anyone not received a RIP yet? Or notification of their base or RNLT dates? Still waiting on mine, but I did have orders previously generated from my current AFSC.
I don't. I'd say there's plenty of us that still don't. Looks like the ones with them already are the same ones that got notified first. I guess not all FSS are created equal lol.
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17 hours ago, CaptD said:
B3OZYMFS 000
Those of you with MFS dates, are you using the projected training with this title? I assume that must be it since it says it's one day, and the last three letters are MFS.
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1 hour ago, Uptapplicant2019 said:
So are we anticipating training dates/locations tomorrow?
I'm expecting the TDYs to get loaded tomorrow based off of last year's turnaround. The PCSs though probably closer to the end of the week or the beginning of the next.
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know how alternates work? Are there some for each job, and what happens if they reject? Like do people get slotted URT alternate only, and then if they get a real slot and reject it could they reapply? Seems silly to make an alternate held to the same standard as the actual selects.
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29 minutes ago, OldUPTapplicant said:
No assignments or training rips will be loaded until after the public release. (Per AFPC)
That sounds in line with last year. The guy I know that was picked up last year found out TDYs the week of the public release, and his PCS was put in a couple days after that. It sounds like they already have the info, they just aren't going to push it out before CC's have had a chance to notify people of selection. Makes sense since I've still yet to hear anything from my cc.
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Also, I know someone mentioned it. If you want to try and get a little advance notice, your MPF should show training pending once they have you in the system.
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6 minutes ago, 10Reps4Hawgs said:
Or how long it takes before AFPC sends out base and RNLTDs?
Purely judging off of last year's thread, it looks like selects will know around Monday for the Wright-Pat physical, IFT, UPT dates. I know a guy picked up last year, and if you need IFT then they will most likely TDY you from your current job before you PCS for UPT.
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6 minutes ago, Fryeguy6 said:
Yeah these numbers are legit. If I were you, I would be confident but still anxious.
Lol yeap. That's what everyone who saw my package thought too. No waivers. No ETPs. 25 y/o. 4.0 GPA tech major. I'll know for sure on the 14th at least.
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Dang... Well, you guys are giving me a little hope I guess. I had accept defeat. Still haven't heard anything. I had a 99 pilot, 92 PCSM, 61 hours with PPL. If anyone has the list, hit me up. Maybe I did actually get something.
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38 minutes ago, OldUPTapplicant said:
ABM select here, going to have to weight options...have a nice next two assignments lined up.
If you don't mind me asking, what was your PCSM? I still don't have any word back, so I'm just curious.
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1 minute ago, skimphish said:
Can anyone with access to the list PM me the number of selects from the 336th FS and the 335th FS? Don't need names, just looking for numbers.
Our Wing CC is on leave and most of us that applied are leaving for a TDY that same day early morning...
If you find someone, I'd appreciate someone letting me know to! My commander isn't holding out on me. He says he's still hasn't received the list...
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Anyone still waiting to hear? You should get notified yes or no, right?
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6 minutes ago, Uptapplicant2019 said:
How long after they announce selections does the FC1 at Wright Pat happen? Is it self scheduled?
The FC1 is scheduled by them. It's a TDY and will happen before you ever PCS. When it happens really depends on how much time you have between class start and the results. They assume you will pass the follow up exam, so you will get a PCS date at the same time pretty much as you get your appointment date. Some base med groups actually do the full exam, and you don't have to go the Wright Pat at all.
10 minutes ago, Uptapplicant2019 said:I also don't have a TS, will I have to wait for an upgraded clearance before I start IFT/Upt?
This is a question, I've wondered too. Fortunately, I'm not in that situation, but from talking to IPs and people in the pipeline now, it doesn't seem like it's a deal breaker if you don't have a TS for training. I've been told by a couple people they never saw anything beyond unclassified. Makes sense though. It sounds like classified material is when you get your actual airframe and more so for operational missions.
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1 minute ago, MC2112 said:
Maybe I’m just being pessimistic but with the holidays and all late December sounds more like early January to me. If I remember correctly last years board also ended up being a bit delayed.
I have the exact same feeling as you. Last year's release was delayed around two weeks, but they also had the gov't shutdown and the suprise extra money. I think they probably delayed to add the extra slots. Hopefully with there being a lot more predictability this year, it'll all be on time. Who knows though? I never thought they'd be pushing the deadline and expanding waivers either...
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1 minute ago, Fryeguy6 said:
I'm curious how the notification system will work seeing as a lot of people wont be working late December and will be with family. Unless my Commander calls me I won't be checking myPers for the PSDM.
That's my question too... Originally the release said we'd know mid-December, so I figured it would be on commanders' desks by maybe the 10th. When I submitted my package though, they emailed me saying I should know late December. That didn't make a ton of sense to me though because I figured AFPC would be on minimal manning then. I'm hoping the late December is the official release, and that our commanders will get the early notification before everyone is off for Christmas. Also, it doesn't make too much sense how they expect short notice PCS's to start in January if they are telling you late December. Two weeks to get orders and out process seems pretty tight!
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7 minutes ago, MC2112 said:
200 for all rated positions? If I remember from past threads that sounds about the same as prior years.
Ya, every board for the past 3 years has said they expect 200. That seems to be the going average every year.
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3 hours ago, Uptapplicant2019 said:
Exactly, I'm just curious on where all these applicants come from, everyone I've talked to has been the only one applying from their base. I'm guessing the big number comes from CSO/RPA Wings but idk, guess it doesn't matter.
I talked to one of the POCs on the board and he mentioned that the rank of your senior endorser doesn't matter either, besides the scores I think they really look at your OPRs and letter of rec.
From what I've gathered, I'm not sure there's much weight on OPR's either. Perhaps when they are deciding those that have been in for more than 4 years or so, but I know of numerous people picked up before their first OPR ever closed out. Traditionally if a board is looking at OPRs, then they will require you to submit them with your package. As the package didn't require them, I'd say they would more focus in the bullets in the 215. I highly doubt the board members are going to look up everyone's OPRs when they have only a week or two max to make their selections. I believe the packages are the size they are for good reason. It provides them exactly what they're looking for.
EDIT: I just went back to look because I thought I might be wrong about the length of the board. They will have just 3 days to make their selections, it looks like. 14-16 Nov is when the board convenes. Even more evidence they probably aren't looking at anything beyond what you submitted. The rest of the time until the selection announcement is getting the paperwork all the way through to the Gen at the top.
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21 minutes ago, UPTDreamer said:
Not to be a realist or negative, however rank was only a small factor last year. it seems more your over all package is what they are truly looking for. Additionally three of you being 1/1 , with an application window extension is a small sample of a possible larger viewpoint of small amount of applicants across the Air Force. Additionally a rumor of larger amount of slots than this past spring could lead one to assume to think rank will not matter as much
Ya, I don't think anyone here is assuming your wing ranking is what will push you through. I took the posters comment as he/she was looking to gauge the number of applicants that bases are averaging. I doubt the board puts a lot of weight on it since it is a poor metric when comparing packages across the AF, and how well does a Wg/Cc know the people he/she is ranking..?
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7 hours ago, Uptapplicant2019 said:
How many folks applied at the base you are stationed? I'm curious on how competition varies by base to get that #1/x push on the 215. I was the only one who applied at my base, but not sure if that's the norm or not.
Goodluck to everyone submitting this week!
1/1 at a fairly large operational base.
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2 hours ago, UPTDreamer said:
With a little over a month and a half till deadline. Has anyone heard any rumors on how many they are picking up this year and why the board was moved up really early this year?
Full disclosure, I have absolutely 0 insider knowledge, this is purely a personal guess... I would speculate the board was moved up because we are expected to have the 2019 NDAA signed into law on time for the first time in two decades (potentially tomorrow). Traditionally, the AF hasn't known it's FY budget until months into the FY which has made it difficult to figure out how many selects can be picked up. I'd imagine that's why it has been in January/February. Last year's board hinted that the budgets had influence when the release for last year's was actually postponed after the budget NDAA announcement came out, and we saw an increase in selects. As far as number of selectees, I would imagine it would be similar to last year or maybe a little more. That is speculation based on the fact that the pool of applicants will probably be smaller this year with the boards moving up (therefore the same number of selects would mean a higher overall selection rate), and the fact that the AF has publicly stated they are increasing pilot production by 200 more pilots a year going forward. Once again though, this is all my own personal opinion on the question you asked. Best of luck to you, if you're submitting this year!
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1 minute ago, Sit On Acorns said:
Is there a limited amount of times you can apply? Why wouldn't one just keep applying each year while improving their application year to year?
You can apply three times, but you must rank all jobs you are medically qualified for each time. If selected for any slot and you reject that selection, then you cannot reapply for the UFT board. If you're asking about my reasoning for waiting, that is because had he been picked up for CSO instead of pilot, he would have had to take it or stay his original AFSC. All of this information is in the board release by the way. If you haven't read it, I would highly recommend you do.
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I will say that one take away from last year's board that I see. Is reading through the old thread and seeing those that got picked up, I think Big Blue is sending a pretty clear message. That is that they want as fresh of bodies as possible to retain in the long run. It looks like the less time in service you have, it may give you a better shot.
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8 minutes ago, Sit On Acorns said:
Twenty PCSM?
Ya, you never know... They've had a CSO with a 1 PCSM. It's possible. I think it shows they really do look at the whole person, but the things that you can control like your PCSM and PPL can help boost you. I know someone picked up with a 65, no PPL last year. I was trying to tell him to wait a year and boost his score to make sure he'd get a pilot slot over one of the others. I was clearly wrong. He walked away with the pilot slot. Then there are people with PPLs getting passed over if you look at last year's thread.
2020 Air Force Active Duty UPT Board
in Pilot Selection Process
Posted · Edited by UPT_Hopeful
If you're physical says MFS pending, you will go to WPAFB for those test on the page described. For the color vision test, yes you do a second one, but it is different from your first one. None of the test you did at your FC1 are repeated with the exception of any they noted in your initial physical to follow up. It's a different CCT. Yes you could DQ, but it is highly unlikely. You will redo another FC1 when you in process at UPT as well. On that page it talks about around 5% will get DQ'd from that appointment. A pending MFS is more of a general follow up, and you can see on the page a large portion cannot DQ you. They are not trying to DQ you. You will already have PCS orders at that point; they don't want to cancel them. I think that thought process comes from people that did ROTC. They are routinely DQ'd at WPAFB, but they are doing their initial FC1s there. You're not. You are only doing pending MFS. Don't stress it.