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On 5/5/2018 at 11:59 AM, Bric said:
Does anyone have insight on the current climate for TFCSD waivers in AD/Guard/Reserve boards respectively? I would be 8 years TFCSD at class entry next year, so it would definitely be pushing it...
Much appreciated!
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My package is currently at the AFRC board happening today and tomorrow with an ETP for TFCSD; I'll be at 6 years next month. For AFRC, the ETP requests have to go through the NAF and get endorsed by the NAF commander prior to being submitted to the AFRC board. I can say for certain, 4th AF is definitely approving them with little fuss. Granted... Its not fully approved until signed off by the commander of AFRC following board approval. Low risk there if sponsored.
Active duty requires you to rack and stack all rated positions if you have a waiver or ETP which puts you in a tough spot; you can't apply for just pilot. If your picked up for something other than pilot you'd be forced to take it and wait a couple years to apply again. If not and you deny any rated position... you can never apply again. They did delay the board this year due to delays in ETPs and waivers but I believe several with them were not selected.
Just about every guard posting I see says they aren't currently pursuing ETPs or waivers. The couple I spoke with had no idea what ETP or TFCSD were... Only age waiver.
My advice would be to call units your interested in and ask what they're looking for and when they plan to hire (many don't make this info public). Make sure you ask if they are pursuing ETPs or waivers. Many units have folks that aren't familiar with the process and may just give you a no because of the they don't know. Do some research so you can assure them of the process and that they are being approved. Bottom line... if a unit likes you enough, the ETP should be no big deal.
Hit me up if you have questions.
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3 hours ago, baller06 said:
That table specifies voluntary separation incentive separatee (think VSP or other incentivized RIF programs), so no for PC we are not authorized PTDY. I think part of the documentation for PC includes signing a statement that acknowledges that we are not able to receive PTDY.
OK thanks for the clarification!
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Anyone know if you are eligible for 20 days PTDY when separating from active duty for Palace Chase? AFI36-3003 Table 4.5 seems to read as though you do, however, the recruiter I am working with said I would not be allowed those days. Anyone have experience taking these 20 days?
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On 2/22/2018 at 10:24 AM, I don't exist said:
Are you an AF pilot already? What board are you talking about?
Active duty non rated looking to transfer into the reserves via palace chase to fill a unit sponsored upt slot. I'm referring to the AFRC rated board that occurs every two months now.
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My recruiter is telling me for rated jobs (got offered a pilot sponsorship) an intent to hire letter is not sufficient and you must be board approved within 45 days of application submittal. Can anyone confirm this? I haven't seen this anywhere.
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On 1/20/2018 at 10:43 PM, koonunga_hill said:
Kind of a similar situation for me: current ABM age 28 with >5 years commissioned service.
Tests: P 96 /N 95/A 86/V 80/Q 84
PCSM: 66 with 6 hours, I’m up to 16 hours now, solo’d, 94 on 201+ column
Undergrad GPA is 3.3 in math/physics
MBA complete (UNC’s grad school doesn’t do GPA)
FC1 complete
I’ve rushed a few units so far, had a good time, had a few or more drinks, just want to see if my experience in ops will be seen as a good thing, or if the ETP for TFCSD will be too much of a hindrance.
I’m casting a wide net, honestly just want to fly. I have preferences on MDS/location, but I’d be happy to join a good unit anywhere flying anything.Awesome numbers! Cast your net wide but also hone in on your ideal or home unit. Work any connections you have there and show that you are committed to becoming a long term member of the unit. I'd say guard is a bit tougher to get an age or TFCSD ETP or waiver. The Reserves make it seem like it's a simple check the box. If the unit want you and you not ridiculously old, AFRC seems to ok it no problem.
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1 hour ago, gear3green said:
Drones?
89th Airlift Squadron... C-17s
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On 12/5/2017 at 12:57 PM, JustHangingOut said:
Nice! Where at?
89th AS
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Got picked up at my #1 location! I'll keep you all updated on how the ETP process goes leading up to my AFRC board that my package meets.
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Wow! Our stuff looks pretty similar! I also had to switch from a low wing cherokee to a high wing cessna 172 after about 35 hrs in. I would keep chugging along on the lessons. If your interviewing for a reserve unit, show that you can have the PPL done prior to the reserve board if the unit was to pick you up. But... I'm new to this too so hopefully some wise gray beards will chime in.
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Wanted to get advice on my chances with my scores and current situation.
I'm currently a non-rated active duty O-3 in the Air Force trying to get picked up by a reserve heavy unit. I am 27 turning 28 in February, so age is getting close, but I am already over the 5-yr Total Federal Commissioned Services requirement and would need an Exception To Policy (ETP). I am only just now a month past my 5-yr date. I would also need to Palace Chase, if picked up in early 2018, and would be asking for 6 months off my current Active Duty Service Commitment.
Undergraduate GPA: 3.35
Masters GPA: 3.38 (2/3 complete)
AFOQT: P 97, N 99, AA 62, V 83, Q 42
PCSM: 89 w/63 hrs (93, 96, 98 in next three tiers)
PPL
Initial Flight Class I Approved
My letters of recommendation are: my former squadron commander, my current supervisor, a friend/coworker (reserve C-17 pilot), and my father-in-law (retired reserve C-141 pilot).
I have visited my ideal unit once and plan to visit again next month. I have strong connections to the area around the unit. Both my wife and I are from there and our families are mostly all still in the area. We are looking to settle down and I would be seeking a long term position with the unit and would likely pursue an ART position. As a result I am initially only applying to that unit. If I am not selected, I plan to blast my application to various units as I will be pushing the age limit.
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2 minutes ago, * said:
Got informally told approved but that it will be 12-15 weeks for "official approval". It's been there 5 weeks.
House sold, reserves hired, waiting on "official approval" so my family and I can get on with our life.....
How much time did you ask off? How did they informally tell you?
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On 3/22/2017 at 7:59 AM, Guardian said:
It still goes higher to the office of csaf board. Regardless of an afpc approval or disapproval. Afpc's current policy is to generally approve 6 months or less. And say no to anything more. The app has to go to all 4 stops regardless of approval or disapproval. The only way it wouldn't would be if you pulled it early.
Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network ForumsSo the reply I received from the MyPers folks was: "The approval level for an ADSC waiver of less than 6-months would be AFPC Separations. Any ADSC waiver over 6-months would be sent to the Secretary of the Air Force Personnel Council for final review." I am trying to get sponsored by a reserve unit who's board would be before the June 2018 AFRC board. My current ADSC is till March 2019 for TA so my six month window would be Sept 2018. Is it worth trying to get the extra couple months and try and PC in June 2018 or earlier? Or are the extra couple months not worth the risk of being denied? Denial would require 120 days before reapplying.
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11 hours ago, Cameltactics said:
I can only speak for the Guard/Reserve side, but I was also a prior Active duty guy who got out (DD214), then returned to the reserve side and needed an age ETP. Sounds like 2 possible ETP's you're talking about? The total federal service one shouldn't be too hard to get, I think I fell under that and didn't really hear a thing about it from my hiring unit. The age waiver was another story entirely, that sucker is traditionally tougher to get, but times are changing so who knows what the current thought is there.
Bottom line: If a unit likes you, they will go to bat for you and make those things happen. I didn't have any input into it really, aside from giving the required information to the recruiters when I was asked for it. I think the units themselves will handle that stuff. It won't be a situation where you can just pursue an ETP from NGB/AFRES and have the various units accept that. It's state/unit dependent. When I was going through this stuff (2014), I found heavy units where more likely to grant them vs fighter units.
I'd share mine but honestly I've never even seen the damn thing, was completely transparent and behind the scenes. Being a prior active guy however, you have a leg up as most units prefer prior guys IMO.
Great thanks for the info! Only one ETP... just TFCSD. I'm 27 so I should be good on age... for now.
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I spoke when the AFPC yesterday and they mentioned six months approval authority is AFPC and they are typically accepted. Anything higher has to go to the office of the CSAF.
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For those who palace chased, when did you have to enter the reserves/guard? Was it prior to AMS for enlisted? How about for officers? Do you just need to be released from active duty prior to entering IFS?
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On 3/16/2017 at 10:55 AM, bluedevil said:
I recently read the AFRC flying training guide (not sure of the exact document name) that I found on the AFRC/A3 Sharepoint page. It reads as if the only way you can get the 5-yr TAFSCD ETP is if you have a legitimate case for missing the boat to UPT. I'll quote the exact verbiage when I return to the office next week. NGB has a different process that seems more flexible, if you're sponsored by a unit.
Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network ForumsI also wonder if the new CSAF has conveyed a new stance or policy on these and age waivers. It seems in the last couple years under Welsh, a lot of people on here mentioned getting them approved. I have been seeing a lot of job postings lately saying no age waivers at this time. I wonder if that hold true with the TFCSD too. Granted this should all be different for ANG though... Right?
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Reviving this thread! So if one was wanting to apply to guard and reserve units and wanted to have the ETP in place before submitting packages (I'm on active duty and plan to route it through my chain) would you need a separate one for the guard and the reserve? It sounds like the NGB has to weigh in on the ETP and I'm assuming the final signing authority would be different for ANG vs AFR and AD AF.
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Reviving this thread. I am active duty (non-rated) wanting to make the switch to the guard/reserve and wanting to build a competitive package for a UPT pilot slot. I am 27 and am hitting my 5 year TFCSD this June. My intent was to start working an ETP for my TFCS time now since it appears to take a long time. From the thread it seems as though most of you have submitted through the guard or reserve unit you were applying to. Since I am on active duty currently I figured I would route it through that chain. Is there something specific about the ETP approval that limits it to just active duty, guard, or reserve... or will my route work for any of them? Also, if anyone is willing to share their ETP package with me that I can use as a template it would be much appreciated.
Palace Chase info
in Air National Guard / Air Force Reserves
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Hmm I'll have to have my recruiter check mine. I was also put on the scroll in mid December.
Off topic...
Does anyone know if the retirement will transfer over to the reserves like it has in the past (years of service translated to points) with this new blended retirement crap now existing? I feel like it would but I'm concerned sneaky AF may have snuck something in where palace chase would be treated like a new ascension and forced onto the blended. No one in finance at my base knows and they have no good source to help me on this.