Hot Sauce Hoy
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Looking at the list it appears there were 1068 I/APZ that made it.
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I got good news today, but don't know the overall stats and my organization is very small as far as IPZ Majs. I was lucky enough to get the elusive promotion with a "P," but I had a strong push from my 3 star senior rater.
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Should be tomorrow for most followed by public release Thursday morning.
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Pretty sure senior rater types have it now but I don't think they are supposed to tell people until the day before public release, but I suspect some will find out tomorrow.
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So how does the scoring system at a promotion board work? Everyone starts with a 7.5...then does a DP add a certain number of points? Is there actually specific guidance in the scoring or is it simply board member overall judgement and they all use their own scoring system to assign a score to the record?
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Learjetter, how do board members know if you are IPZ or APZ? Is there a code somewhere on the PRF? I only see the box checked I/APZ. What tells them what year group you are in? Do they have to look at the dates on DQHB?
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Something else I found of interest was slide 5. It states that MAJCOMs had a 64.3% select rate but "other" had an 82.3% select rate. Is "other" places like HAF, COCOMs, etc? I wouldn't have thought that 43% of eligibles would have come from that pool.
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5 hours ago, Chuck17 said:
When you see it, you'll know if you're going to be promoted. If there isn't a DP checked and a strat in the bottom line, you should have realistic expectations of your chances. The numbers are out there for you to find, to support this claim - you should know where you stand
Chuck, good post. But I look at my O-5 PRF and don't know if I will be promoted. I have the "p" box checked but was strated #1 in a small pool of 5 by SR and have a super P and a bottom line that says all the right things. Is this the senior rater saying I need to fit in that 40% or so of "p"s that get promoted IPZ? Is having a strong SR strat one of the keys to being promoted with a "p"? Of course I have realistic expectations simply because the P is checked.
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On March 19, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Bender said:
How are we in a spot where a guy even wonders here? Unless there is "the rest of the story", this is a slam dunk. Almost makes think there is something you're now sharing and trying to get a half truth here.
Bendy
It would be helpful to know what a gray zone "P" PRF looks like for O-5 IPZ. I have no idea what a record at the "cut line" would look like. I don't have access to previous years PRFs. If I knew what a PRF right on the edge of the promotion line looked like (assuming all boxes checked and no big negatives) I would probably be able to better discern my chances.
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Is recent performance in the current grade most important? For example, for Lt Col board does performance as a Major weigh a lot more than CGO performance?
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4 hours ago, Bender said:
How are we in a spot where a guy even wonders here? Unless there is "the rest of the story", this is a slam dunk. Almost makes think there is something you're now sharing and trying to get a half truth here.
Bendy
I do not have anything negative I am not sharing. Really it comes down to I haven't seen a lot of other O-5 PRF's to compare myself to. I was hopeful ( and thought I would) get a DP but realize that I am on a small staff and my SR doesn't have an outright one. I probably would have gotten one at my old wing. I figure I must have been going against a bunch of IDE in res grad guys at the MLR. I have not personally talked to my SR about it because he is a 3 star and has a very busy schedule and has been TDY a lot. My supervisor (O-6) said he would be surprised if I don't get promoted.
This is the first time I have ever gotten a "p" (of course it's only my 2nd IPZ PRF) and have never been an exec so I don't really know how to compare myself against the competition. "P" has always had a negative connotation amongst my peers--like once they hear you got a "p" they assume you are going to get passed over.
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11 hours ago, di1630 said:
You gotta be in the top 50% of P's....a few decent strats, probably more importantly though job progression, duties held, etc.
I have good job progression and solid strats and good top 10% Maj strats at SQ and WG level, numerous FGO awards including SQ FGOY, and a SR push that strats me 1/5 IAPZ and "if I had a DP, he'd get it" with all the right pushes. My SR didn't have a DP, and I didn't get one at MLR. I feel good about being in a good position but you never really know with a "p" and what the competition is bringing to the table.
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So what do you smart guys consider to be the key factors in getting promoted with a "p" to O-5? (Yes I am facing that) I saw someone post earlier that historically 85% that get passed over have no SR strat.
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Are SR's judicious with "super P" statements such as "my next dp?" Are they held accountable by the MLR on stuff like that? How often do P PRFs have the wording "definitely promote" from the SR in line 9?
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Is a Senior Rater allowed to say "definitely promote" in the push line on promote PRFs? How often do they do that?
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On February 24, 2016 at 5:20 PM, ThreeHoler said:
If it is 84% overall, then it is up by about 9% from last year.
Can anyone else confirm the 84% #?
Promotion and PRF Information
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The full stats weren't available yet today but last year there were a lot more promoted for I/APZ. I'm not sure if the '02 year group is smaller because of RIFs or if the rate was lower.