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    Promotion and PRF Information

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    Looking at the promotion statistics for Lt Col last year, what does the demographic "MAJCOM" mean? There was a 64% promotion rate for PRF's with a MAJCOM PAS code, as opposed to 72% overall. Does "MAJCOM"include everyone from the wings and the staffs all the way to MAJCOM staff? According to the statistics there were 985 eligibles at the MAJCOM level so that leaves 742 others...

    Does that mean 742 people above MAJCOM level at COCOM and Joint Staffs? Seems like too many people. Who is NOT included in "MAJCOM?"

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    How much does a "super p" help the chances of promotion? Is there any kind of tracked data on that?

    There are way too many other variables to track that data.  "Super P" means nothing if there isn't a decent record of performance to back it up (i.e., strats, PME pushes, and follow-on staff recommendations that match the strat ).  It also depends a great deal on who is signing the PRF.  Not all senior raters carry the same amount of weight.  To make matters more complicated, a senior rater that would have normally done well at an MLR or CSB can be called out for shenanigans that affect his/her credibility and therefore influence the outcome of the boards.  Examples include strong positive language on a bottom line with no record to back it up, multiple "super P" or "if I had one more..." pushes amongst eligibles, or exaggerated/just plain untruthful verbiage in the narrative that board members catch.

    Ok then let's assume the person has a solid record just short of receiving a DP and the SR has a good reputation for not speeding. In that case would "super p" make a difference or is it just fluff BS?

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    So basically per the AMC brief, if you are to get promoted with a P to O-5 you need to have most of the following: PRF DP push, strat, CC push and SDE push along with consistent OPR strats and CC/DE pushes.

    However, looking at the #s of people passed over it seems the things those people lacked the most were PRF strat, OPR strats, OPR CC pushes, and duties above wing. Those seemed to be the key, at least in AMC.

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    So help me understand slide 50 (performance based review) of the Lt Col Promotion Results brief...

    Is that saying that 1 of the 28 guys who were passed over for O-5 had every one of those "boxes" checked in his record and didn't get selected?

    That is very useful information when trying to figure out your chances.

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    Promotion and PRF Information

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    My SR chose to leave a # of strats off that suprised ke a bit. But once I thought about it I think it made sense. First, he cut out some repetitive ones. Once they state you are 1/7 AC's, they may feel they don't need to say you were also 2/12 AC's rift next to it.

    Also, they may leave off a good strat that is maybe top 15 or 20% when trying to paint you as a consistent top 10% performer, for example. I don't really agree with that, but that may be their technique.

    Maybe they are trying to paint breadth. My SR left off a good CGO strat but I am at my O-5 board so I don't know if that was the reason

    I guess it all depends on what you have in your box of strats. Personally I think the more the better if they are top 20% but I am not a senior rater or board member.

    However, I am pretty sure that board members are at least looking at the top and bottom lines of the rater and additional rater blocks of the OPRs. At least I hope they are.

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    Does a board recognize and appreciate "late bloomers" or people who were lost in the shuffle for periods of their career?  For example if someone goes from staff pushes of NAF to MAJCOM to HAF and command pushes in a 3-4 year period, does that improvement carry significance? 

    I can appreciate steady improvement because I think we identify future leaders at too early of an age at times. 

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    Posted · Edited by ArcticGator

    Is there a rule of thumb for what level of strats should be included in a PRF?  I have seen some senior raters include only top 10% ones and I have seen others include top 25% or even top 50% level strats. I have seen some only include 1 if there are 2 similar stats of the same category from different OPRs, while I have seen others include all, even if they are repetitive. 

    Is it better to include every strat or include only the best (if enough) to try and paint a top 10% performer and leave some out?

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    4 hours ago, HeloDude said:

    Everything matters and can make the difference in a PRF.  Guys who are getting promoted to O-5 with a 'P' are more likely working at a staff type job for a GO vs working at some Wing.  

    Is this because these GOs have smaller staffs with less DP's to give and the guy with the P at staff is higher caliber than the #13/24 guy at a wing?

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    Posted · Edited by ArcticGator

    On February 29, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Homestar said:

    DP will be near 100%, P will be around 50%. There is your most important marker.

    So back to the discussion. What is the biggest discriminator amongst P's assuming boxes checked?  The SR push line? Statements like "if I had one more DP" or "my DP if I had one?" Do SR's really differentiate  amongst the P's?  Overall strength of record?

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