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7 hours ago, Duck said:
You were totally baited into this because Broke kept posting passive aggressive attacks on me and deleting them, prompting other bros on here to smell blood in the water and start to swarm.
First off, I didn't delete anything.
Second, I didn't accuse you of anything. I asked you a question to clarify a point and then made two if/then statements.
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I didn't read "press to test to see if they are dumb enough to pay me" as "asking if I am eligible for involuntary separation pay through official AF channels".
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2 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said:
BODN/JA in the house. Log off everyone....you will be hit with court martial duty if you don't.
Wait...what?
In what universe is trying to get money from someone that you know you are not entitled to not fraud? That's literally the definition of "defraud". And I didn't accuse him of doing it. He literally said "Anyone know how to press to test to see if they are dumb enough to pay me Separation Pay for non-continuation?"
How am I the a-hole here?
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16 minutes ago, Duck said:
Nice. Going straight to fraud. I figured someone on here would go there eventually. Here's the deal, if you actually read the reg, it is 100% not up to me to decide what caused my non-selection. For my first board, it was the fact that my SR gave me a blank PRF and on my second board, I didn't decide to non-continue me... pretty sure that was the AFs doing. Its not my role to "file for Involuntary Separation Pay", I am simply asking how they determine who gets involuntary sep pay when THE AF DECIDES to non-continue someone.
Wait, why in the hell am I arguing with a full grown man in a Buz Lightyear costume?
I didn't go straight to fraud. I asked what the letter said. If a person straight up said "don't promote" me, then turned around and tried to get invol sep then that person is committing fraud (i.e. the "hope nobody notices" comment from a third party above). The content of the letter is relevant to the discussion as is your intent in pursuing the separation pay. That's why I asked a question and followed up with several "if, then" statements. This is decidedly different from making an accusation.
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Why did you write the letter in the first place? If it was in order to get non-continued so you could (no pun intended) duck out of your ADSC then you are not entitled to pay. If you try to get paid anyway then you are committing fraud. If the letter was to clarify derogatory info then it wouldn't be the reason you got non-selected (the derog would be the reason). In that case, you get the money. Why the confusion?
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10 minutes ago, Duck said:
I know I have to be separated by the last day of the 6th month, but would that be Nov or Dec? Someone told me it would be Nov based off the board being approved by OSD in May, but I thought it was from Notification.
Definitely not notification or public release. Pretty sure it's OSD but with this board, who knows?
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On 6/16/2018 at 9:30 AM, Duck said:
I don’t know yet about continuation. My Commander called me late Friday night. He said that a letter was supposed to be attached to the email he got about my passover but MPF forgot to attach it. He said we will talk Monday. Thanks again guys. I feel like I just won the lottery.My wing commander on my second pass over was a real urethra and he a) waited until 1700 the day before public release to tell me (or rather, waited until 1700 to tell his exec to tell my squadron commander) and b) incorrectly informed me that I had been non-selected for continuation and would have to be out in 120 days. Same wing commander did my PRF for my third look and didn't realize until I told him that it was my third look. He wasn't a real conscientious guy. Don't worry though, he still made O-7.
You will probably be continued, but you can always decline it (just understand that while all of your ADSCs will go away, so will your GI Bill transfer benefits if you are still under the commitment for that).
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12 hours ago, Duck said:
Well Gents, it’s been fun but Duck is now a twice passed over Captain on his way out the door. I appreciate all of you who reached out and offered me advice throughout the years. I know that I will have a ton of questions going forward as I transition to the next step. This community is awesome and I love (most of) you guys.
Been there. Did they not offer continuation? I got continued on AD then Palace Fronted and made it first time in the Reserve. Highly recommend that option if you can find a unit. Feel free to hit me up if you have questions.
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Last question: Any idea why the reg says PV to O-5 is four years, but the date in vpc promotion calculator is 5? PSDMs for recent boards also say 5.
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"We don't really handle officer promotions, you should ask your unit." ...my active duty unit...filled with active duty people...who know nothing about Reserve promotions.
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Anybody know anything about PV promotions in the reserve. Looking at stats it's <20% to O-5 for IMAs (lower than the other line categories). What's the gouge on how to be competitive? I mean, besides PME. Does a guy with lots extended AD have a better shot than a part-timer? Do higher-level positions have better luck than lower (HAF vs Wg for example)? Just curious. Lot's of sites have the regulatory info, but I can find any analysis. As an IMA it's not like I have a unit to go ask either. Thanks in advance.
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I went reserve last year, but hopefully this helps. There isn't any paperwork involved. The key is the date of separation. The orders don't flow until after the DOS and they take some time. They *should* get back dated to your DOS, but there will be a break in real-time for a few weeks (but no break on paper once it is finalized). Talk to the recruiter, not the TAPS guy. Mine acted like it was a non-issue. I bugged my DET a lot because I didn't want a gap in healthcare coverage, but you can just wait until the paperwork goes through to file any Tricare claims. Are you taking terminal after your final out?
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I've got a 60% rating from the VA, my back has hurt every waking minute of the last 6 years, my last commander on active duty made my life miserable (on purpose), but I'd regret it daily if I hadn't done it. 1,500 hours in 3 different helicopters, 55 combat missions, 12 combat saves and 6 civil rescues all made it worthwhile. And it gave me the KSEs to get a sweet reserve gig and a very well compensated contractor job.
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Found a direct number to ARPC. Here's the deal, RASL and ADL promotions fall under different subsections of Title 10. Even if you were twice considered on AD, you haven't been considered under the Reserve section, so you are not considered to be deferred on those boards. As others have said, the terms I/A/BPZ aren't used, but for all intents and purposes, PV is IPZ and mandatory boards are I/APZ. Non-selection on a PV board doesn't count as a deferral, but twice deferred on a mandatory board will drive separation or continuation as the case may be.
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I guess I could clarify. Table 5.2 in 36-2504 OFFICER PROMOTION, CONTINUATION AND SELECTIVE EARLY REMOVAL IN THE RESERVE OF THE AIR FORCE discusses date of rank and it's different for APZ vs IPZ. Is it correct to say that if you haven't been passed over in the reserve, you are IPZ regardless of AD deferrals?
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Searched, couldn't find an answer. I was twice deferred on active duty. Got out. Found an IMA position. I'm about to meet my first reserve board and I'm not sure if I'm considered IPZ or APZ. In practice, the only real difference is DOR, but I'm curious. As an IMA, my CSS is active duty, so they aren't too experienced with reservists and the AFI doesn't distinguish. Does anybody know if I'm considered APZ or IPZ for the (mandatory, not PV) board? Thanks.
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No MEB just DQ
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Anybody have any SA on what happens if you're selectively continued then go medically DQ'd with one year left on your ADSC? Asking for a friend...
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They had us watch "The Invisible War", which is an independent documentary about some women filing suit against the DoD. It was actually very worthwile. They weren't the improper use of alcohol type situations we usually hear about. These were violent rapes which the documentary alleges are central to the problem. The video suggested that the problem is that we overemphasize victim advocacy rather than prosecuting the perpetrators. I would recommend you watch it in your free time, it's on Netflix. Of course, as soon as we finished watching the video we went into a briefing on being a good wingman and avoiding demon liqour, so I guess big-blue won the day in the end.
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1) So they're going to buy 18 aircraft at $77,000,000.00 for a total of $1.386 BILLION dollars, with a higher life-cycle mx cost and this is going to save $10 bil over 10 years?
2) The CV-22 has been evaluated and found insufficient as a CSAR platform already.
3) Are we seriously using Libya as an example of the Osprey's CSAR capability?
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No I'm not. I sat there and heard it first hand from Safety Center reps. They teach that SIBs should not offer privilege to everyone (makes sense as not everyone needs it) and second that SIBs should try to conduct interviews without offering privilege at first. However, each SIB is different. So, if any of you get involved in a SIB sitting at the unfriendly side of the table, think about whether you need privilege. And if you think you want to talk to counsel before hand, tell them. True, SIBs don't care about counsel so don't be surprised if you ask for it first and they say its not necessary. There, fruit salad.
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Agree with Toro. This was not taught when I went through (Apr '10). There was however a Major with whom I got in a verbal altercation after he asked if he could attempt the above "in order to help out the AIB". Like others have said when it come to privilege, ask not, get not.
Promotion and PRF Information
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Found a better picture.
Bahahaha!
I just saw this. I chose to comment on the thread because I am one of the relatively few people on here who has actually been nonselected to major (4 times!) and met a selective continuation board. So no, I'm not going far in today's Air Force. But never pass up an opportunity to use the "you're what's wrong with the Air Force" line. Its a pretty reliable way to get up voted.
Also, your "people like you who make all encompassing assumptions" comment made me think of Star Wars, so thanks for that.