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John Boyd is a personal hero of mine who receives little to no credit within the halls of the big Air Force because he did not play the game, however, if you fly a fighter aircraft in today's Air Force you have no one more important to thank than Col John Boyd. Even more, if EM means anything to you, rate/radius, etc. I was disturbed as I recently spent a few hours at the National Air Force Museum, and not a single word on any museum piece made mention of Boyd. We have an OODA Loop on Maxwell, EM diagrams in every 3-3, Fighter Weapons School, Maneuver Warfare, Desert Storm, etc, but no mention of John Boyd in any official Air Force document I have ever read. Seems wrong. Ironic too, considering one of the things he apparently used to say was "either be someone, or do something... you can't have both" (or words to that effect). Cain

Future Nav? I keed. edit: Had to add this one, what a spoiled shit head. "I'm only 3,003 tokens from the choatic crossbow!"

I call BS on the entire premise of this thread. This is not OPSEC or mission stuff we are talking here....it political opinion and sometimes personal opinion. This is an internet forum where no one knows who you are. If we are going to start policiing what we can and can't say on here based on "what looks good for the military" or "a reg says you can't say that", there are LOTS of thread and posts that need to be removed. Most not having a damn thing to do politics. Not one of my troops knows who "Boxhead" is....hell, all my info on the left there is fake anyway...or is it? Holy sh!t its the internet...noone knows or cares. BTW.....Obama's politics blow.