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  1. 23 hours ago, N730 said:

    I'd say that's below average from the guys I've talked to, but it varies. It depends on a lot of things, especially if you're coming from off the street. Availability at WPAFB, how quickly you can get through MEPS, how quickly your unit submits the request, etc.

    Some units want you to swear in first. Some recruiters think you have to before you can go to your FC1, but that's not the case.

    For me, I went to MEPS around a month after being hired and went to my FC1 about 5 months after being hired. But that was due to some miscommunication and my MEPS results not being quickly delivered to the guys scheduling my FC1.

    I know an enlisted guy that got hired at his home unit, and his FC1 was about 3 months from hire. So I'd be ecstatic about getting there in 2 months.

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    Yeah I figured it will vary highly depending on the unit, waivers, timing... Looks like it would be safe to plan it to wait around 5-6 months. 

  2. 18 hours ago, ANGCandidate2019 said:

    Update: took the PFT today, it was the most thorough test I’ve taken for my lungs. The technician was very helpful and explained everything along the way and I came out normal 👌🏻

    MCT is Thursday. They will never do the two tests on the same day because you are given an albuterol inhaler at the end of the PFT and you need time to get the medicine out of your system.


    this whole experience has been attitude driven. No one wants to fail you here. If you have the right attitude and mindset and give everything you have more than likely things will work out. In my 10 years of service I’ve never met a more positive medical staff who is there to help you succeed. 

    will update again Thursday! 

    Thanks for the updates dude, it helps us out enormously! 

  3. Hey guys,


    There is so much info going around on this topic and I do not know what the correct policy is. I thought the new policy was pilot applicants in the AD, Guard, and Reserve could join up to age 33. Is this true? Could you post the source for this? Just don't want to give others bad info.

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  4. 1 hour ago, CharlieHotel47 said:

    Cant speak for ARC, but I got word from ANG that big blue cut the # of FY20 allocated slots from 155 to 90 (ANG only). Reserve probably saw a similar cut. Someone had said they were loading up AD ROTC and Academy applicants with pilot slots...

    Do you know what the distribution looks like for heavies vs. fighters? 

  5. I don't know man, I don't think WP doctors sit on here to answer our questions haha. All we have is the 2019 WP waiver guide and it states that any history of asthma when you turn 13 is not waiverable. Before your 13th birthday you should be good to be evaluated and then submitted for a waiver.

    1. We don't know until we get picked up and go to WP and actually get the physical.
    2. The waiver process for a FC1 says we need to get FEV1, FVC, and FEV/FEC results, medical history pertaining to asthma, rate of utilization of metered-dose inhalers, internal medicine or pulmonary consult, then an MEB. It also states that bronchoprovocation (MCT) is not recommended. It is only recommended for ACS evaluation which is only for a FCll or FClll physical. But because this says recommendation and I've heard us asthmatics need to take an MCT to disprove we have asthma, I do believe we will have to take the MCT at our FC1.
    3. Gather all of your medical history that pertains to asthma. Sort it chronologically and highlight anything having to do with asthma so the MEB folks can scan your paperwork with ease. Other than that, we are subject to God. Good luck with everything, you already passed an MCT so that's huge, lets just hope its enough for the authorities in the AETC!

  6. On ‎7‎/‎29‎/‎2019 at 12:03 PM, Ultimate Fighter Pilot said:


    Have some questions about the waiver process for a FC1 physical/MEPS physical if you had asthma as a child. I took the Methacholine Challenge Test with a civilian doctor and passed it with flying colors. Do you have to re-take the MCT during your FC1 physical? Also, how is the climate for asthma waivers? I know I've already asked this question but want to get more SA. I've heard they are still denying candidates with a history even if they pass a MCT, or something as simple as getting issued an inhaler even if you never use it.

    Any updates?


    On ‎7‎/‎29‎/‎2019 at 3:17 PM, stuckindayton said:

    I would expect you would still take the PFT/MCT at Wright-Patt.  If you are waiverable (i.e. childhood asthma only, normal PFT/MCT), then I would anticipate a waiver would be approved.

    Do you know if being prescribed inhalers or any asthma preventative meds after age 13 would permanently DQ me? (Paranoid mother wanting me to walk around carrying an inhaler but I never used it)

  7. 12 hours ago, iRobot said:

    Nothing yet. According to my sponsoring unit, it’s a bit backed up. I spoke to my 340FTG admin and she said I’d have to double check with the pipeline manager. I can try and follow up tomorrow.

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    I noticed you got sponsored on the reserve side of the house and mentioned the 340th Fighter training squadron. Did you get picked up for the fighter side reserve if you don't mind me asking? Would you have any gouge on this?

  8. 3 minutes ago, cagg011 said:

    Considering I was someone who went through the interview circuit and was successfully picked up by a fighter unit, I’m pretty confident I have a better grasp on the the whole process than you do. When I say that getting a Master’s helps, guess what, it worked for me. Also, I know exactly what UPT is like, and I can say without a doubt it’s far more rigorous than most Master’s degrees.

    There’s nothing wrong with someone wanting to better themselves or what they can bring to the table. If that calls for getting a Master’s then yeah, let him go get it to offset his low undergrad GPA. He’ll make it work if he wants to interview badly enough. 

    1. Did I say I was more credible than you? No, I said I still have some pointers I can give out even though I'm still in the circuit. 
    2. YMMV. Worked for you, might not work for someone else. The guy is an engineer in the work field. How much of a difference will the masters make for him? Might be diminishing returns. 
    3. Never said a masters program is more rigorous than UPT. People can have priorities. 
    4. I am in no way telling him not to do it. I told him he should go back if he thinks that the low GPA is robbing him from interviews. 
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  9. 13 hours ago, cagg011 said:

    And you know all of this how? Seems like in another thread you’re still very green in the interview process, but I digress...

    I 100% disagree on the part to not get a Master’s. I, too, had a low undergraduate GPA, but I offset that with a high GPA for my Master’s. You will need the degree later on to promote, so why not go ahead and get it done? If that makes someone “lose focus” during the interview process, then UPT probably wasn’t cut out for them anyway.

    Geez, what is with all the combative applicants these days? First of all, nice ad hominem. You contributed nothing to this thread except counter my point, seemingly because "I'm still green". I've scored alternate positions, so while I haven't been picked up yet, I know a thing or two. But I digress.... YMMV but I'll say again, the fighter units I've come across do not care about your GPA if you have good scores, and are a good dude while rushing. That makes all the difference. Personally, I wouldn't waste time getting a masters if you know all you want to do is fly. If you are struggling getting interviews, then maybe it is time to re-evaluate and get that masters. His scores are stellar. I don't see him needing a masters to get interviews. As I said before though, YMMV. And it most certainly can make someone lose focus during the interview process. Master programs are pretty intense as are rushing/interviewing. In no way does it make someone "not cut out for UPT" just because they want to focus on one part of their life. You are way off base on that assumption. 

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  10. A few things pop into my head, keep in mind I haven't been hired yet either but scored some alternates. 


    • How old are you?
    • Rushing in the Guard is one of the most important things you can do. It can help offset low scores/bad package or it can distinguish you from the hoard which will also have 90's , high GPA, sports, etc. Therefore a lot of it comes down to when you visited, did they like you? Did you mesh well with a majority of the pilots? Not just 1 or 2. 
    • Timing. Sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some. Did the squadron commanders son/daughter apply this time around? For most of us, this is a marathon. For the lucky few, it is a sprint.


    So it seems like the trend is, your scores are good enough for you to get interviews. The next thing for you to do is learn from those interviews. Have you been asking for feedback? Have you been iterating your interview setup? At this point, your package is fine. It's your interaction with the squadron/board that determines whether you get hired or not. Keep rushing, keep interviewing. If you stick with it then you will definitely get it. Though, as I keep saying, unless you are a fvcking weirdo, you will get it. 

  11. 9 minutes ago, LNGH said:

    Thanks for the feedback. I've just been worried that mistakes I've made in the past that I've grown from are going to end a lifelong dream of mine. Any advice on things I could do (especially short term, applying to Duluth this month, but long term as well if it doesn't pan out) to help show improvement?

    TBH,  most fighter squadrons wont give a sh!t about the GPA. Especially if you have a solid job with a solid company. It would be different if you were flipping burgers. Just write a well crafted cover letter explaining your situation, how and why you learned from it, etc. As I said, it doesn't really matter because of your scores and sports. Will you get invited to every interview for fighters? No, but you'll get a lot of invites. If you are hell bent on showing improvement on GPA, then just go back and get a masters. IMO, that's a waste of time and money and might make you lose focus. Keep rushing, interviewing, and polishing up the interview and you will get picked up in under 2 years, unless you're a fvcking weirdo. 

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