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  1. 36 minutes ago, Burger said:

    Alright guys,

    i am currently a civilian pilot and have come to realization that I will be bored doing the same thing till i'm 65. I have been applying to Guard/Reserve squadrons in the mean time. 

    Anyway, I am curious if the AF or Navy has better chances of tracking fighters in the training pipeline? This seems to be a AF heavy forum group so if there are any Navy bros/broettes out there that have some insight that would be great. Calling recruiters to set up the AD process this week. I understand it comes down to luck and the needs of the branch but besides that does the Navy or AF have better chances of tracking fighters in training?


    Check out airwarriors.com. That's the navy version of this forum.

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  2. Your scores are decent, and I say that because of your Q score and 85 PCSM. If you can get your PCSM above 90 then you would be in a better position regarding your scores.


    Your age is probably the greatest factor here, especially with your fighters only mentality. I'm not wanting or trying to discourage you but it is seeming that unless you are the perfect fit in a fighter unit, they still don't like interviewing candidates 28 or older even with the new age waiver policy. With that said, rush the units you want to be at and you never know what will happen. They could really like you and not care about the age. There are also some on here who have been picked up by fighter units at this age or older. Also, don't discount AD. You will definitely get a pilot slot and can still get a fighter that way. Good luck!

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  3. You will see it vary from unit to unit. Some have been picked up with 99's across the board, others with 90 pilot and 30 everything else. Of course your chances are lower if your scores aren't the best but if you rush and the board likes you, they will make exceptions. It is very rare to get an interview and then get looked over just because one of your AFOQT scores are lower. The interview levels the playing field. 

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  4. 29 minutes ago, gear3green said:

    So you are trying to switch Laughlin for Vance? Bro good luck that’s like offering a kia  for  a BMW. Good luck! Also jokes aside I’ll ask around and see if anyone is interested. 

    Hey, Stingers are nice. I'd take one of those over a 335i, not an M3 though

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  5. 12 hours ago, mb1685 said:

    Very interesting to see their age cutoff being age 33 at the time of board even though the (updated) regulation applies to starting UPT by age 33. Wonder if that’s a misprint or if they’re just more willing than most fighter units to submit age waiver requests?

    Yesterday, it said age 29. So they definitely intentionally updated it to reflect the new age waiver standards. 

  6. 3 hours ago, WannaFly2019 said:

    Little bit of a gouge here for you.  This was briefed at Vance a little while ago:

    UPT 3.0 is going to be with the T-7. That's planned for a 2021 takeover.  With the T-7, they're going to be giving wings BEFORE entering that airframe.  IE, if you want to track fighters, then you're going to be in a T-6 for 8ish months, get winged, then hit the T-7 for like 6-8 (undetermined now) months then go to a shortened B-Course.  UPT 2.5, which is the "Banzai" classes they keep doing, is going to become a real thing come this June.  It's essentially going to be the shortened syllabus with more practice in the beginning and tying it all together towards the end of UPT, with the early "track select" while in T-6s so you do more nav for T-1s, form for T-38, etc.

    Oh wow, T-7's are really on track to be in UPT starting in 2021?

  7. What are you shooting for, Guard/Reserve or AD? 


    So far, you have an interesting background, so that is a good plus for you. Your work will give you points as well. But as always, we really need to know your AFOQT and PCSM scores, cause those can make or break you. 


    Also, getting your PPL is very important depending on which path you take, so consider more flying. 

  8. 46 minutes ago, LNGH said:

    Yup you're boned. They probably blocked your email. 


    Actually though they're sending emails to I'm guessing around 200 people and they may have a generic template but they are reading the application emails and giving a personalized response where necessary, so it's a slow process. I'd say if you don't hear anything by the end of the week, and em a message. 

    You know this as a fact?

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  9. On ‎11‎/‎29‎/‎2019 at 3:08 PM, PapaSwan said:

    Does anyone know if Vermont or Massachusetts are having hiring boards this year? I believe they both did last year, but I was curious if either were going to be back to back? 

    For the past 2 years, they both have. But we will have to see and wait for the new year. 

  10. You have good scores and looks like you have great connections in the LORS. I wouldn't worry about the quantitative tbh. Your overall stats are very good so I would just say get out and start rushing. You'll start seeing results soon. Good luck! 

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  11. 7 minutes ago, stuckindayton said:

    First off, disclaimer.  I'm not a pulmonologist.  But, I know a little about AF policy.  If you had documented asthma after age 12 or 13, I don't believe it's waiverable.  Before that age, you're likely going to have to pass either a PFT or MCT or both.  I don't know the MEPS process, but for FC I, they are going to want the breathing tests done at Wright-Patt.  I know that doesn't directly answer your question, but maybe it helps a little?

    My disclaimer, I'm not in the AF either, nor have I gone through any of this process. This is only what I've heard from pilots who have had asthma, or applicants currently going through the waiver process for asthma. If you have ongoing asthma after the age of 13, then yes it is DQ with no waiver. If you have things such as an inhaler or follow-up asthma visits after your 13th birthday because your parents make you because of paranoia, you will likely have to do PFT + MCT. Then it is up to AETC evaluation I believe. 


    My question was more geared towards do you have to go to MEPS to get DQ'd or can you call them up before hand and say you have a DQ condition and a waiver needs to start so you don't waste 2-3 months waiting for a MEPS appointment, just to go get DQ'd and have to get a waiver, if that makes sense...

  12. REVIVAL. I'm a guard applicant. I have a history of childhood asthma and wanted to know the best process for waiver submittal for MEPS and FC1. Can I ask to submit a waiver before MEPS so I don't have to wait for the appointment, get DQ'd and then do the whole process? Basically is there a way to go about this as efficient as possible as to avoid delays?

  13. 1 hour ago, ecc97 said:

    Hello everyone, I posted this without the test scores a few months ago, and figured it would be best to start fresh.

    I'm a current regional airline pilot trying to get a pilot slot with a guard fighter unit.

    • Age: 22
    • Finishing BS in Aeronautics from ERAU (should be finished end of Q2/beginning of Q3 2020)
    • GPA:  2.94 from one year of community college, 4.0 from ERAU
    • AFOQT: Pilot-99, Nav-99, AcadApt-70, Verbal-79, Quant-56 (I'll probably end up taking it again, opinions on if I should apreciated)
    • PCSM: 94
    • restricted ATP with 2150 hours, 650 airline hours, current CFI/CFII
    • LOR's from retired USAF Lt. Col./F16 driver, AA 737 captain/mentor, Chief Pilot
    • One year experience as CFI/CFII, year and a half with the airlines

    As far as 'extra curriculars' go:

    • ALPA P2P for my airline
    • 6 years in CAP, started as a cadet, current senior member captain, national flight academy instructor, worked FEMA missions for Hurricane Harvey, RPA escort pilot

    Just looking for your opinions and thoughts on my chances going forward, and any recommendations would be appreciated.  Thank you in advance.


    You have great scores, I would not re-take the AFOQT. You are young, so you have a lot of time to be rushing fighter units across the country and find which unit you mesh well with. Just be a good dude, don't be cocky, and have fun! Keep at it and you should find yourself in a fighter unit in a couple of years. Good luck!

  14. On ‎10‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 1:52 PM, goodflightcowboy said:

    Anybody know the timeline for 122nd?


    3 minutes ago, Hokie540 said:


    Are they having a board? I’m not seeing anything on their “Opportunities” page.


    122fspilothiring@gmail.com - board announcements and any questions go through there. I forget but I think they recently had their rush weekend, and apps are probably due soon.

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