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Yeah, the Javelin is actually the predecessor, and civilian version, of the Advanced Jet Trainer and is targeted at wealthy businessmen/pilots who want to be able to get places quickly and have fun doing it! I know if I could afford it I would look into one.

Anybody heard of this aircraft and it's potential for replacing the T-38? AvTechGroup Advanced Jet Trainer I'm sure the company is just living a pipe dream, but I couldn't resist. [ 29. October 2004, 09:47: Message edited by: flynhigh ]

From what I've heard, as a pilot, you take-off and land, while the aircraft does everything else in between. I'm sure it's not really that easy, but that's what I've heard. Also, I don't think there is any drops out of UPT for it.

Wnanna, I am sorry about your loss. I lost a good friend in a general aviation accident in 2001. Accident Report At the time, I was working on my PPL. Not more than 3 days after the accident my dad, a pilot himself, rented a 172 and asked me to fly with him. I'm sure I was feeling the same way you are now, but I still went flying that day. It was an incredibly difficult situation, especially since the crash site was just to the west side of the end of the runway. My point being, we all lose people who are close to us but we can't let it hinder our daily lives. For some of us, our daily life will be flying airplanes, for pretty much all of us, it is driving cars. Losing a friend in an auto accident doesn't usually prevent people from driving, try not to let it prevent you from flying! Use it as a learning situation, to remember how fragile life is, and to always keep focused while flying. Again, I am truly sorry for your loss.

25 Feb 05... here here! [ 21. October 2004, 21:51: Message edited by: flynhigh ]

Hopefully this isn't too inappropriate for our rated-G crowd. French Fighter Pilot ------------------------------- Pierre, a brave French fighter pilot, takes his girlfriend, Marie, out on a pleasant little picnic by the River Seine. It's a beautiful day and love is in the air. Marie leans over to Pierre and says: "Pierre, kiss me!" Our hero grabs a bottle of Merlot and splashes it on Marie's lips. "What are you doing, Pierre?", says the startled Marie. "I am Pierre, the fighter pilot! When I have red meat, I like to have red wine!" She smiles and they start kissing. When things began to heat up a little, Marie says, "Pierre, kiss me lower." Our hero tears her blouse open, grabs a bottle of Chardonnay and starts pouring it all over her breasts. "Pierre! What are you doing?", asks the bewildered Marie. "I am Pierre, the fighter pilot! When I have white meat, I like to have white wine!" They resume their passionate interlude and things really steam up. Marie leans close to his ear and whispers, "Pierre, kiss me lower!" Our hero rips off her underwear, grabs a bottle of Cognac and pours it in her lap. He then strikes a match and lights it on fire. Marie shrieks and dives into the river. Standing waist deep, Marie throws her arms upwards and screams furiously, "PIERRE, WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING?" Our hero stands up, defiantly, and says, "I am Pierre, the fighter pilot! When I go down, I go down in flames!"

I thought this was funny so I thought I'd revive this topic. ENJOY! Fighter Pilot An Air Force fighter pilot walks into a bar and takes a seat next to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance then casually looks at his watch for a moment. The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" No," he replies, "I just got this state-of-the-art watch, and I was just testing it." The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so special about it? He explains, "It uses alpha waves to talk to me telepathically." The lady says, "What's it telling you now?" "Well", explains the pilot, "it says you're not wearing any panties...." The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken, because I am wearing panties!" The pilot taps his watch and says, "Damn thing's an hour fast."

There is no "minimum". GPA, PFT, PCSM, CC's rating, etc... all go into your overall pilot selection score. Your GPA is like 15% (don't quote me on that) of your overall score.

Yes. They originally setup in Baraboo, WI, and then moved to Duluth, MN.

Ragansundowner, I understood where you were coming from! I just wanted to throw those names out for those who may be unfamiliar. As far as the Cirrus outselling Cessna, oh boy! The SR-22 is a bada$$ airplane. A friend of my dads has one, the Cadillac of general aviation! Glass cockpit and all... I think Cessna's biggest focus right now is in the corporate aircraft arena (i.e. Citation's). It may mean lost jobs in Independence, KS, though!

Like I said, most terminals can't handle them. "Steps in the gangway" makes it sound like it's not going to be a big deal to accommodate the A380. Don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome that a double deck airliner is being built. But the logistics that go along with supporting it are going to make it hard for airlines/airports to transition to it. New jetways or boarding bridges, whatever you want to call them, are not going to be cheap. c17wannabe, I respect your views, but I just think it is going to take alot more than just manufacturing of this beast to get it into the air.

Clearedhot, I think it may also be safe to say that the reduction in job base may also be due to technology. More and more manufacturing is automated on large aircraft. Robots doing work = less work for us humans. Although you do bring up a good point.

Don't forget Clyde Cessna! Or Walter Beech!

Actually, there is research being done on the Blended Wing Body design that would accomodate up to 800 passengers (conceivably). BWB 1 BWB 2 The A380 is supposed to carry up to 555 passengers. The problem with both of these is terminal access at current airports. Both of these designs are so large that most terminals can't handle them. Kind of off track, but interesting I think.

I partially agree Clearedhot. However, our industrial base here in the US really hasn't diminished as a result of the loss of manufacturers, in reality, there is just one single major manufacturer, Boeing. You may remember in 1997 or so when Boeing and McDonnell Douglas merged? This was a result of foreign competition(i.e. Airbus). Some jobs may have been lost, but more jobs were probably saved in the long run by creating a single national "powerhouse" to compete with Airbus. Smaller manufacturers, such as McDonnell Douglas, would not have been able to compete against Airbus alone and would have went under. The FTC even launched an investigation into whether or not they should allow the merger. After agreeing that it would be best for national interests, they allowed the merger despite European rejection. Anyways, I understand your position and respect it!

Not to be the wise guy here, but isn't Boeing the only real American company that is in competition with Airbus? I really don't foresee Airbus directly affecting any of the other American aircraft manufacturers considering most of them are general aviation or military manufacturers. That said, I agree with the fact that our government could play a huge role in the "leveling of the playing field" with Airbus/Boeing competition. Just my thoughts anyways.

Hey now, us Wisconsinites are cheese eaters too! And we love our

AYE! Oh wait, that was directed at me?

A man flying in a hot air balloon realizes he's lost. As he's reducing height, he spots a man down below. He lowers the balloon further and shouts "Excuse me, can you tell me where I am?" The man below says: "Yes, you're in a hot air balloon, hovering 30 feet above this field." "You must be a Non-Commissioned Officer" says the balloonist. "I am," replies the man. "How did you know?" "Well," says the balloonist, "everything you have told me is technically correct, but it's of no use to me." The man below says "You must be an Officer." "I am," replies the balloonist, "but how did you know?" "Well," says the man, "you don't know where you are, or where you're going, but you expect me to be able to help. You're in the same position you were before we met, but now it's my fault." As seen on a plane's "snag" sheet (a "snag" is a problem with the the aircraft that is reported to the aviation mechanic) Student Pilot's report: "Dead bugs on windshield" Av Mechanic's response: "Live bugs on order" Student Pilot's report: "Left engine is 'missing' ". Av Mechanic's response:"Left engine located after brief search". Student Pilot's report: "Radio volume unbelievably loud." Av Mechanic's response: "Set radio volume to more believable level." Student Pilot's report: "Something loose in the cockpit." Av Mechanic's response: "Something tightened in the cockpit." Student Pilot's report: "Left inside main tire almost needs replacement." Av Mechanic's response: "Left inside main tire almost replaced." Student Pilot's report: "Friction lock causes throttle level to stick." Av Mechanic's response: "That's what a friction lock is there for."

I can neither confirm or deny the validity of any of these! At ATIS-equipped airports, pilots are required to listen to the recording prior to contacting Approach Control or the tower and must repeat the "Information so-and-so" identifier when they make their initial radio call. Sometimes, the results can be hilarious... The scenario: it was night over Las Vegas and "Information Hotel" was current on the ATIS. Mooney 33W wasn't too sharp, but he didn't let that stop him from talking to Approach Control. Approach: "33W, confirm you have 'Hotel.' 33W: "Uhhhmm, we're flying into McCarren International. Uhhhmm, we don't have a hotel room yet." After that, Approach was laughing too hard to respond. The next several calls went something like this call to United 583 (which didn't make it any easier to stop laughing)... Approach: "United 583, descend to Flight Level 220." United 583: "United 583, down to Flight Level 220. We don't have a hotel room, either." It seems that it was a very busy day and a "good ol' boy" American (Texas-sounding) AF C-130 reserve pilot was in the instrument pattern for landing at Rhein-Main. The conversation went something like this... Tower: "AF1733, You're on an eight mile final for 27R. You have a UH-1 three miles ahead of you on final; reduce speed to 130 knots." AF1733: "Rog-O, Frankfurt. We're bringin' this big bird back to one-hundred and thirty knots fur ya." Tower (a few minutes later): "AF33, helicopter traffic at 90 knots now one-and-a-half miles ahead of you; reduce speed further to 110 knots." AF1733: "AF thirty-three reinin' this here bird back further to 110 knots" Tower: "AF33, you are three miles to touchdown, helicopter traffic now one mile ahead of you; reduce speed to 90 knots" AF1733 ( sounding a little miffed): "Sir, do you know what the stall speed of this here C-130 is?!" Tower (without the slightest hesitation): "No, but if you ask your co-pilot, he can probably tell you."

This is kind of off subject, but still relevant I think? :confused: July 4, 2001, a friend and I were circling over downtown Wichita, KS, when Wichita Approach came on and said "Cessna XXXX two B-1 heavies 9 o'clock five miles" we knew beforehand of the annual flyby over where the fireworks were lit off and quickly responded, "Wichita Approach traffic in sight," expecting to be vectored out of the area. Wichita Approach contacted the lead B-1 to inform them of our position, and not a minute later we had two B-1's fly no more than 500'-1000' feet below us! Got it on film! It was awesome!

Does anyone else see this thread drifting off into nowhere? :confused:

Hey don't get me wrong, I'm all for an AVIATION ONLY forum, but this is a GENERAL DISCUSSION forum. I'm not trying to get political or anything like that, I just thought that people would like to see what type of idiots there are out there. I'm sure most of us already know some of them... That being said, university research does play a role in the development of aircraft and weapon systems, which does affect all of us military types.

First of all, that retard has no idea of what he's talking about. I just found it interesting that an article like that would be written in a university newspaper regarding funding they've just received. I just graduated from ISU in Aerospace Engineering and it really irks me when a kid like this completely bashes some legitimate funding that the university receives. I'm sure there are plenty of other companies that have donated money to the university in other fields that have more of an impact on his supposed "WMD" connection. Say chem or bio warfare research? I know they do all sorts of that stuff here. The real kicker is that money will go to help research that may directly affect the aircraft that we fly, or the weapons we use.

Check out this article some moron wrote... http://www.iowastatedaily.com/vnews/displa...1/414f945ecc428