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FAIP plus get an 11B follow-on. Those dudes/dudettes have no incentive to crush themselves for 3 years by flying 3 times a day and volunteering for every stupid tasker that comes down from the boss. They don’t have to play the FAIP game at all, unless they’re trying to fly the B-21 I guess. It sucks but it might be better than 3 years of nut crushing only to lose out again.

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2 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

FAIP plus get an 11B follow-on. Those dudes/dudettes have no incentive to crush themselves for 3 years by flying 3 times a day and volunteering for every stupid tasker that comes down from the boss. They don’t have to play the FAIP game at all, unless they’re trying to fly the B-21 I guess. It sucks but it might be better than 3 years of nut crushing only to lose out again.

False hope is literally the AF’s favorite management tool.  Without it, the Bobs might actually have to lead.  

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Back at ENJJPT you had to be in the top half of your class to FAIP, but during the glory days 15 out of 20 students would get fighters. So at worst the FAIP would be 10 out of 20 and five or six guys below him would go fly fighters. How bad it must have sucked when the FAIP drop came out and he ended up getting a bomber.


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Back at ENJJPT you had to be in the top half of your class to FAIP, but during the glory days 15 out of 20 students would get fighters. So at worst the FAIP would be 10 out of 20 and five or six guys below him would go fly fighters. How bad it must have sucked when the FAIP drop came out and he ended up getting a bomber.


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They’ve never expressed discontent about this, for sure!
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On 6/6/2022 at 11:06 AM, HU&W said:

False hope is literally the AF’s favorite management tool.  Without it, the Bobs might actually have to lead.  

Take my freaking up-vote. However, the bobs porked it away, now there’s no false hope for 11B follow on guys. Just hookin’ their way to a cush 3 year assignment racking up enough hours to go to the airlines when their ADSC is up.

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False hope is literally the AF’s favorite management tool.  Without it, the Bobs might actually have to lead.  

It’s really the only management tool

“Bust your ass and maybe you can get *insert desired assignment here*”

“Do this to make sure you don’t close any doors”



I quit that game years ago


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KSPS 22-06

3xF-35 - Luke AFB

3xF-16 - TBD

3xEUROFIGHTER - Laage AB

T-38A - Langley

Tornado - Schleswig AB

T-38C - Sheppard AFB 

T-6 - Sheppard AFB

2xB-52 - barksdale

F-22 - Eglin

CF-18 - cold lake, Alberta

A-10 - Davis-Monthan

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T-6 FAIP drop to NAS Pensacola last night. Probably the best FAIP assignment in history. The real question is how will they compete on the tail end of their FAIP tour?

No idea about anything else.


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15 hours ago, Bode said:

CSO school house


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Was there a Joint Spouse or something else influencing that decision?  Obviously, CSO IPs don't have the same instructional skill set...hell, the student doesn't even get to land the plane, much less get prepped to go fly a solo.  I'd hazard a guess that the PNAS location is a placeholder for Whiting field where UPT is at.

 

Regardless, yes...either way a FAIP assignment to Pensacola has to be the best thing going!   

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Was there a Joint Spouse or something else influencing that decision?  Obviously, CSO IPs don't have the same instructional skill set...hell, the student doesn't even get to land the plane, much less get prepped to go fly a solo.  I'd hazard a guess that the PNAS location is a placeholder for Whiting field where UPT is at.
 
Regardless, yes...either way a FAIP assignment to Pensacola has to be the best thing going!   

Nah. It was just tossed in there.

No way it’s a placeholder for Whiting. The AF hasn’t sent a student there in over 7 years


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Was there a Joint Spouse or something else influencing that decision?  Obviously, CSO IPs don't have the same instructional skill set...hell, the student doesn't even get to land the plane, much less get prepped to go fly a solo.  I'd hazard a guess that the PNAS location is a placeholder for Whiting field where UPT is at.
 
Regardless, yes...either way a FAIP assignment to Pensacola has to be the best thing going!   

Nope, it’s something they have been working to have happen for a few years.
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KCBM 22-13 drop

U-28 - Hurlburt

T-6 - Columbus

C-21 - Scott

KC-46 - McConnell

C-17 - NC ANG

C-130H - JASDF

HC-130 - CA ANG

C-17 - WV ANG

MC-130J - PA ANG

C-17 - McChord AFRC

T-6 - NAS Pensacola (Pilot for Nav FAIP)

KC-135 - March

KC-46 - JBDML

KC-135 - McConnell

T-38 - Columbus

B-2 - Whiteman

T-38A - Langley 

T-6 - Columbus

F-16 - TBD

F-15E - Seymour Johnson

F-5 - International

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On 7/16/2022 at 12:55 PM, Bode said:

T-6 FAIP drop to NAS Pensacola last night. Probably the best FAIP assignment in history. The real question is how will they compete on the tail end of their FAIP tour?

No idea about anything else.


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Yikes. Hopefully eligible only for CSO-carrying platforms. Strong incentive to do good and not be a douchecanoe.

I flew for 10 years without having a clue what made a good CSO in a war machine. Gonna be tough for that person to have a clue. 

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15 hours ago, jice said:

Yikes. Hopefully eligible only for CSO-carrying platforms. Strong incentive to do good and not be a douchecanoe.

I flew for 10 years without having a clue what made a good CSO in a war machine. Gonna be tough for that person to have a clue. 

Has an 11R (recon/tanker follow-on)

the other faips were 11M(mobility) and 11F(fighter)

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On 7/17/2022 at 10:38 AM, the g-man said:


Nah. It was just tossed in there.

No way it’s a placeholder for Whiting. The AF hasn’t sent a student there in over 7 years


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Well shit...now I feel old.  I've been stuck in the CENTCOM version of hell for a few years and missed that decision.

It's also a bummer, I enjoyed my time as a UPT stud there.

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Well shit...now I feel old.  I've been stuck in the CENTCOM version of hell for a few years and missed that decision.
It's also a bummer, I enjoyed my time as a UPT stud there.
But they still send IPs there...
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On 7/16/2022 at 2:51 PM, Danger41 said:

That’s shocking. 

Not to many of us. 
For a long time, UPT grads were FAIP'd to Nav Training back when it was done with the T-37. Worked fine. 

Why does this seem to be a big deal?

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14 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Not to many of us. 
For a long time, UPT grads were FAIP'd to Nav Training back when it was done with the T-37. Worked fine. 

Why does this seem to be a big deal?

Shocking because all I’ve heard over the last several years is pilot shortage and sending a FAIP outside of pilot production is surprising. Not outside the dudes skills or anything, just a production standpoint.

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  • 2 weeks later...

KCBM 22-14/22-14XPW

C-17 - Charleston (1 active/2 reserve)
T-6 (11M) - CBM x2
T-6 (11F) - CBM
C-17 - Wright Patt
C-17 - Dover
KC-135 - Fairchild
UH-60 - Japan
KC-135 - McConnell 
E-8 - Robins x2- reserve
KC-135 - Meridian (ANG)
C-146 - Duke x2
KC-46 - McConnell
KC-135 - Mildenhall
C-17 - McChord x2
KC-135 - MacDill
MC-130J - Kirtland
KC-135 - IN ANG
C-17 - WV ANG
C-130H - IL ANG
F-16 - TBD
T-38 - ADAIR Langley

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7 hours ago, WoAce said:

KCBM 22-14/22-14XPW

C-17 - Charleston (1 active/2 reserve)
T-6 (11M) - CBM x2
T-6 (11F) - CBM
C-17 - Wright Patt
C-17 - Dover
KC-135 - Fairchild
UH-60 - Japan
KC-135 - McConnell 
E-8 - Robins x2- reserve
KC-135 - Meridian (ANG)
C-146 - Duke x2
KC-46 - McConnell
KC-135 - Mildenhall
C-17 - McChord x2
KC-135 - MacDill
MC-130J - Kirtland
KC-135 - IN ANG
C-17 - WV ANG
C-130H - IL ANG
F-16 - TBD
T-38 - ADAIR Langley

XPW is still a thing? Is Columbus not on the 2.5 syllabus for everyone?

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