Jump to content

Promotion and PRF Information


Guest e3racing

Recommended Posts

5 hours ago, olevelo said:


Dang man, that’s messed up! I just logged in to see if anyone’s heard yet and was about to join the chorus looking for it! I’m at a civilian institution PhD program so I’m not liking my chances of actually getting notified before the list gets posted to mypers!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

it was funny until about the 20th PM asking for the list...then i felt shame 😕

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/8/2018 at 10:04 AM, ruckerstud said:

Along the lines of up or out going away, is anyone hearing anything about why this board is at the CJCS? Is it like the last Majors board where they are promoting a bunch of APZ guys. One the upside, at least I can laugh that I will be gettting my notification for the next board and my results from this board the same week.

Last several years it has been because they are not promoting joint dudes at the same rate as their in-service peers...i.e., officers on JS should have the same rate as HAF officers.  Usually it's a one or two person deficiency (i.e., if you only have 20 people in the category, 1 person makes a 5% difference).  However, it speaks to either the quality of folks we send to joint jobs, or the fact that they are left hanging when it comes to a push for promotion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Weezer said:

  However, it speaks to either the quality of folks we send to joint jobs, or the fact that they are left hanging when it comes to a push for promotion.

What?  No...never.  I mean, I've heard Col+'s talk about how that's outside the AF and outside the career field and looks bad.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, MDDieselPilot said:

Well I just got the call from my O6.. that reserve job is looking even better for the home team.

Same here. Looking at reserve and ANG openings. Everybody is telling me to push through the last 4.5 years but I don’t know if I can sit in some back office, in some job nobody cares about, that doesn’t have any meaningful work to do just to collect a paycheck.

 

I don’t want to have to PCS 1-2 more times to sit in jobs I have no motivation to do and, frankly, don’t care about just to retire at 20.

 

As far as my push line went (for anybody interested in comparing), I had 2 WG/CC strats (both top 35%), Sq/CC and SDE push. I also had the magic C on my other bullets. My first 8 OPRs didn’t have any strats in them but my last 6 have. The strangest thing to me is that on my O-4 PRF I was a DP and my records have improved since then.

 

oh well. Good luck to everyone else.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

35 minutes ago, 14N Guy said:

Same here. Looking at reserve and ANG openings. Everybody is telling me to push through the last 4.5 years but I don’t know if I can sit in some back office, in some job nobody cares about, that doesn’t have any meaningful work to do just to collect a paycheck.

 

I don’t want to have to PCS 1-2 more times to sit in jobs I have no motivation to do and, frankly, don’t care about just to retire at 20.

 

As far as my push line went (for anybody interested in comparing), I had 2 WG/CC strats (both top 35%), Sq/CC and SDE push. I also had the magic C on my other bullets. My first 8 OPRs didn’t have any strats in them but my last 6 have. The strangest thing to me is that on my O-4 PRF I was a DP and my records have improved since then.

 

oh well. Good luck to everyone else.

Not my place to offer advice, but...

That check of the month club is not something to just write off with 4.5 left.  Hurts now; pays off for a lifetime later (been there, done that).

Not ever a 14N, however, there are lots of either meaningful and/or personally rewarding niche jobs out there for 14Ns.  Worked with 'em lots - Green door stuff, three-letter agencies, etc. that The Man has to fill but doesn't care about.  Get in there or somewhere like that, do a good job, and your post-AF career will take care of itself.  The clearance(s) and contacts are worth $$.  Don't just toss 'em.

This isn't about The Man anymore; this is about you and your family and what is best for them.

If you have post-AF plans/dreams, by all means, disregard all.

If not, set yourself up now for doing well after hanging up the uniform.  Big Blue doesn't care now and won't then.  

Hang tough; it's not personal (however much it feels that way), just numbers on a excel somewhere.

Edited by brickhistory
  • Like 3
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

51 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

 

Not my place to offer advice, but...

That check of the month club is not something to just write off with 4.5 left.  Hurts now; pays off for a lifetime later (been there, done that).

Not ever a 14N, however, there are lots of either meaningful and/or personally rewarding niche jobs out there for 14Ns.  Worked with 'em lots - Green door stuff, three-letter agencies, etc. that The Man has to fill but doesn't care about.  Get in there or somewhere like that, do a good job, and your post-AF career will take care of itself.  The clearance(s) and contacts are worth $$.  Don't just toss 'em.

This isn't about The Man anymore; this is about you and your family and what is best for them.

If you have post-AF plans/dreams, by all means, disregard all.

If not, set yourself up now for doing well after hanging up the uniform.  Big Blue doesn't care now and won't then.  

Hang tough; it's not personal (however much it feels that way), just numbers on a excel somewhere.

All excellent points.

 

I think most of it is me being a queepy little b**** right now.

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm right there with you man.  Expecting my second rejection on Tuesday.  Hoping it isn't as painful as the first time around but sure it's still going to be a kick square to the junk all the same.  Hopefully they're offering continuation.  Since that first rejection and post stages of grief, it's been liberating to no longer chase after that next "must do this for promotion" job though. I'll always do what needs to be done to not let down my unit or Bros but I can focus on doing stuff that's more meaningful to me and prep for life post USAF.  It's also fun speaking ones mind with little fear of pissing off the boss, cause what's he gonna do, not promote me?  Best of luck in figuring it all out though, it's never easy.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, soupafly06 said:

I'm right there with you man.  Expecting my second rejection on Tuesday.  Hoping it isn't as painful as the first time around but sure it's still going to be a kick square to the junk all the same.  Hopefully they're offering continuation.  Since that first rejection and post stages of grief, it's been liberating to no longer chase after that next "must do this for promotion" job though. I'll always do what needs to be done to not let down my unit or Bros but I can focus on doing stuff that's more meaningful to me and prep for life post USAF.  It's also fun speaking ones mind with little fear of pissing off the boss, cause what's he gonna do, not promote me?  Best of luck in figuring it all out though, it's never easy.

Right there with ya.  I might have an “I’m going to the airlines! Freedom!” party this Wednesday. 

Praying they thoroughly jack it up and deny me continuation too.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, 14N Guy said:

Same here. Looking at reserve and ANG openings. Everybody is telling me to push through the last 4.5 years but I don’t know if I can sit in some back office, in some job nobody cares about, that doesn’t have any meaningful work to do just to collect a paycheck.

 

I don’t want to have to PCS 1-2 more times to sit in jobs I have no motivation to do and, frankly, don’t care about just to retire at 20.

 

As far as my push line went (for anybody interested in comparing), I had 2 WG/CC strats (both top 35%), Sq/CC and SDE push. I also had the magic C on my other bullets. My first 8 OPRs didn’t have any strats in them but my last 6 have. The strangest thing to me is that on my O-4 PRF I was a DP and my records have improved since then.

 

oh well. Good luck to everyone else.

Interesting.  I’m in a similar boat with bad OPR for the first 6 years.    Nothing but good ones since, but I didn’t get a DP to Major.... didn’t even make Major actually.  

  But now I think I’m set up rather well for Lt Col when ipz hits.  

If your wg/cc strats were Maj strats, then that rather odd.   

 

As someone already said, 75% DP rate to major is much different than the 50% rate to Lt Col 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yea, I think what I was trying to say about the DP is that I didn’t understand how I got a DP for my O-4 board (based on my records leading to that point), then my records have improved every year since then and still got passed over for O-5 IPZ and now APZ. I should have clarified that I wasn’t trying to compare the DP rates and I can see how it came across like that.

I didn’t expect a DP for any of my O-5 PRFs but what bugs me the most is that when I ask for any type of feedback on why I got passed over, all I get from my leadership is, “I don’t know, all boards are different”.

The strats were DO strats. In the 14N world, DOs are boarded positions and I’m not 100% sure that translates to big blue.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, 14N Guy said:

I didn’t expect a DP for any of my O-5 PRFs but what bugs me the most is that when I ask for any type of feedback on why I got passed over, all I get from my leadership is, “I don’t know, all boards are different”.

That’s weak management, AF standard...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Spinner said:

That’s weak management, AF standard...

unfortunately it's also true.  good leaders are often just as surprised as everyone else when a good person gets passed over.  unless you're on the board (or it's clear from the record) it's often just a O-6 guessing as to why you were passed over.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • M2 locked this topic
  • M2 unlocked this topic

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...