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Choke yourself you sanctimonious prick.   For the record, you are not as smart as you think you are, you have simply become a mindless part of the collective, endlessly spewing the same old PA verbiag

all us mid level captains have seen the bullshit...we dropped when there was only one fighter per class, we had RPAs in our -38 drops, we were in the squadrons with the TAMI 21 guys and heard how they

Nobody cares what you talk about on your airline job. You should not be paid to work on your next job while at work on active duty. Do that on your own time. Yeah, yeah, we have transition programs

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I’m satisfied with the UPT product. Are they overall as good aviators as 1990....maybe not. Do they need to be? No.

It’s a different game. UPT standards over 30 years don’t mean much.

I taught t-38s a decade plus ago and we washed kids out for stuff that isn’t even deemed relevant now.

I was in my first B course 18 years ago today. Little to none of it applies to what I’m doing now. What took 12 jets to go back then, I can do with 4 today, safer and faster.

Lots of old people decry change. I welcome it.

Oh, and the T-1 is a huge reason we lowered attrition. Turns out KC-135 pilots don’t need 4-ship tac formation....no sh-t....!!!!!




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On 4/26/2021 at 9:51 PM, BADFNZ said:

Yet both of you took it.

Yup.  Because I had a concurrent running ADSC because AFPC incorrectly dated my GI bill transfer and refused to fix it. 

Regardless, having seen behind the curtain now, I can speak with authority when I say "don't take the bonus".

On 4/27/2021 at 10:48 AM, BADFNZ said:

Well everyone's asking why they're offering such a shitty bonus, and the answer is because people are still taking it.  Why would they raise it when they can keep it low and still have plenty of takers?  Vote with your feet.

...and I did.  I got out as soon as I could...right in the middle of a global pandemic, at 17 years of service, while non-current in an airplane, and I haven't regretted that decision even once.  So I say again: don't take the bonus.

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On 4/28/2021 at 6:39 PM, FourFans130 said:

 

...and I did.  I got out as soon as I could...right in the middle of a global pandemic, at 17 years of service, while non-current in an airplane, and I haven't regretted that decision even once.  So I say again: don't take the bonus.

I also left AD during the pandemic and have not regretted it one second.** I was also able to receive the bonus where if I'd stayed on Active Duty I would've had to wait another year for eligibility (fiscal years). 

**Note to the younger guys: I cherish my 11 years on AD and would not have done it any other way (e.g. joining the guard directly). 

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48k approved by the House. Senate only approved 35k.


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As much as John McCain did in his time, he was a loud voice against a lot of military compensation. “we didn’t need this kind of money to be patriotic back in my day” is what I took away from his position and lobbying on all those items.
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As much as John McCain did in his time, he was a loud voice against a lot of military compensation. “we didn’t need this kind of money to be patriotic back in my day” is what I took away from his position and lobbying on all those items.

And as long as Tom Cotton is on the SASC, I wouldn’t expect a increase either.


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21 hours ago, di1630 said:

Delta hiring, AA hiring, Cargo never stopped hiring...I shouldn’t be looking fwd so much to the FY21 ACP numbers but I am.

At this rate the USAF should try to screw up the bonus and see if by luck they get it correct.


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Option 1: Get out ASAP and go Guard/get a line number - be eternally grateful you made that decision

Option 2: Take the bonus, get out in 6-9 years and get a line number - be eternally pissed you made a poor choice in 2021 and tell all the young guys not to make the same mistake you did

 

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I just saw some slides with the so-called "Bonus" take rate.  The year isn't over but it's dismal so far.

Only 14% of eligible 11F's have taken it. 

0/10 F-15C pilots took it.  

And 3/32 F-35 pilots.

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I just saw some slides with the so-called "Bonus" take rate.  The year isn't over but it's dismal so far.
Only 14% of eligible 11F's have taken it. 
0/10 F-15C pilots took it.  
And 3/32 F-35 pilots.

As of 9 April that’s alllll true, RPAs are at 50% though!!




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As of 9 April that’s alllll true, RPAs are at 50% though!!
 

It was a grainy photo from a powerpoint briefing.  I didn't see a date, but the data was readable.  Appreciate you confirming, even though the person providing it was solid.  

I also heard not a single 11R took the "bonus"... go figure.  It will show in 6 months.  

 

Note:  The etymology of the word "Bonus" comes from ancient Greek.  

The verb is "Boner" and means "to bone".

The "us" ending (as in "Bonus") is the third person plural of the verb "Boner".  

Ergo, "Bonus" means "to bone us" or "we get boned", in the American vernacular.  

(now that I ponder it, I think it is Aramaic, not Greek).  

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1 hour ago, HuggyU2 said:

It was a grainy photo from a powerpoint briefing.  I didn't see a date, but the data was readable.  Appreciate you confirming, even though the person providing it was solid.  

I also heard not a single 11R took the "bonus"... go figure.  It will show in 6 months.  

 

Note:  The etymology of the word "Bonus" comes from ancient Greek.  

The verb is "Boner" and means "to bone".

The "us" ending (as in "Bonus") is the third person plural of the verb "Boner".  

Ergo, "Bonus" means "to bone us" or "we get boned", in the American vernacular.  

(now that I ponder it, I think it is Aramaic, not Greek).  

11Rs were not offered a bonus this year. So they will be zero take for the foreseeable future. 

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5 hours ago, FLEA said:

11Rs were not offered a bonus this year. 

I’m aware. I work in an 11R squadron. Just being sarcastic. 

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55 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said:

I’m aware. I work in an 11R squadron. Just being sarcastic. 

Ah copy. I wasn't sure, because I knew you were a U2 guy but thought maybe you were just out of the fold. I'll have my detection meter worked on. 

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Don't worry, we'll just grow ourselves out of it.  Luckily COVID didn't decrease our 2020 pilot production, absorption, and experience levels... oh wait.  Yep, we're hosed.

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On 4/9/2021 at 12:45 PM, Craftsman said:

Heard an interesting pure rumor from leadership. There may be a VSP this fall for FGO types. Reasoning too many FGO’s. 🤔 

Any updates to this nasty rumor?

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12 hours ago, Nodeskjobs said:

Any updates to this nasty rumor?

This really would be the perfect AF personnel action. Completely reactionary and void of any foresight. Covid is tailing down and airlines are hiring like mad. Clearly, the only correct response would be to cut pilots. Because.... reasons. 

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I don't have any inside knowledge, but I don't see it happening. The FY22 budget got released yesterday and the USAF is the only branch that's getting an increase to end strength next year. Couple that with the everlasting AF pilot shortage and it wouldn't make any sense to get rid of people. Of course, that's never stopped the Bobs before...

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I don't have any inside knowledge, but I don't see it happening. The FY22 budget got released yesterday and the USAF is the only branch that's getting an increase to end strength next year. Couple that with the everlasting AF pilot shortage and it wouldn't make any sense to get rid of people. Of course, that's never stopped the Bobs before...


VSP for 11X in general doesn't make sense.

Any year groups in particular airframes overmanned? Seems like 11Rs in the 2010ish year groups or older might get offered VSP based on not being offered a pilot bonus this year. Unless not being offered the bonus fixes the glitch on it's own.
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This really would be the perfect AF personnel action. Completely reactionary and void of any foresight. Covid is tailing down and airlines are hiring like mad. Clearly, the only correct response would be to cut pilots. Because.... reasons. 





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