SocialD Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Danger41 said: So here goes a massive thread derail…are you all planning on disability upon separation/retirement? I’m more or less healthy and any issues I’ve got now are from getting older and fatter trying to keep up with my kids and work schedule. I would think that’s 0% disabled? Not planning on anything, but based on recently retired squadron mates it seems there will be something. After a career of flying fighters, I'm guessing some sort of rating after all the neck and back issues I've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I wish I had done it earlier, but after now paying 2x VA funding fees and realizing much of this standard stuff won't affect FAA Class I...do it ASAP! I could have had this shit done years ago, and have missed out because of my unfounded fear of it screwing over my flying career. Ideally you have a bro flight doc who will go over your "hypothetical" records and give you advice. Neck, back, joints, fucked up finger from when you took a cue ball to the hand playing crud, tinnitus, liver isn't pulling its weight like when you were 25...all service connected. Anything mental health related (PTSD) and sleep related will cause you some level of asspain with the FAA (but not necessarily show stoppers). This all according to my flight doc who's also an AME. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEA Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, brabus said: I wish I had done it earlier, but after now paying 2x VA funding fees and realizing much of this standard stuff won't affect FAA Class I...do it ASAP! I could have had this shit done years ago, and have missed out because of my unfounded fear of it screwing over my flying career. Ideally you have a bro flight doc who will go over your "hypothetical" records and give you advice. Neck, back, joints, fucked up finger from when you took a cue ball to the hand playing crud, tinnitus, liver isn't pulling its weight like when you were 25...all service connected. Anything mental health related (PTSD) and sleep related will cause you some level of asspain with the FAA (but not necessarily show stoppers). This all according to my flight doc who's also an AME. Had someone recommend that if you are a male you are missing a proverbial gold mine if you don't have a full hormone spectrum done before you get out since most males are easily diagnosable with low testosterone by their mid 30's. Anyone have experience with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 58 minutes ago, FLEA said: most males are easily diagnosable with low testosterone by their mid 30's. Anyone have experience with this? No! *cries and eats tub of ice cream* 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 For retirees, 50% is the magic number. 49% and below, your VA disability pay is deducted from your retirement pay. Very small tax benefit. 50% and above, retirement and VA disability are both payed out. VA essentially pays my mortgage right now. Don’t forget. If you get less than 50% and you are divorced, it’s less that the ex-wife can get of your retirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEA Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Danger41 said: No! *cries and eats tub of ice cream* I know but let's face it man.... Most of us don't have Tom Brady genes.... The spice......the spice melange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) On 2/9/2022 at 5:49 AM, SocialD said: Glad I wasn't the only one confused but that post. Even, part-timers who retire from the ANG/AFRES start getting their VA disability payments right away. You guys made a good point about getting VA disability when you separate early. That wasn’t something I took into consideration when I decided to stay in. $17k a year is definitely nice. I was just saying that $40k (tax free) on top of a $50k AD retirement with health care at 45 is probably enough for me to retire and I had no idea that was even a possibility when I decided to stick it out to 20. Just trying to pass what I’ve learned along the way. No wrong choices out there. Best of luck to everyone… whatever path you decide. Edited February 11, 2022 by Lifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Don’t put that PC evil on us. There are absolutely wrong choices out there! I kid. Nice words. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 So any word on when they actually plan to release this years bonus details? Keeping out hope for a $35K bonus with 1 year commitment...daddy needs a new Jet Ski before he retires! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragspider Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Hunter Rose said: So any word on when they actually plan to release this years bonus details? Keeping out hope for a $35K bonus with 1 year commitment...daddy needs a new Jet Ski before he retires! I’d expect it once the gov has a full budget for the year and not these 6-9 week CR’s kicking the can down the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slc Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Any AFRC pilots navs NOT get their bonus payout this year? Should’ve been this pay period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 MAF retention virtual going on right now. HTTPS://ata@atalink.orgGeneral Miller. Not sure where from. Edit. You should be able to watch it after the fact when it’s over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Bonus. “It’s essential”. AD program. Capped at 35k per year by law (he claimed). O5 and below. Tiers. And required after pilot commitment complete. 2022 doesn’t have an appropriations bill yet or CR. So no bonus program yet. They saw 2020 and 2021 bonus takers were similar to pre covid. Roughly bonus paid out per year = 194 million. Sounds like they are trying to change the bonus program completely. A big overhaul for 2023. They are planning on starting from scratch and potentially asking for relief from current laws. He claims it could look significantly different than the bonus in the recent decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Question asked about airline hiring and how to retain people. Answer. Retention working group looks to solve pilot problem by getting them into the guard and reserve (guard and reserve doesn’t have a retention problem btw). Sounds like they are pushing for guard and reserve to take in more people and more experienced people. So far he’s not talking about why that’s in the individual pilots benefit. Just the AF’s benefit. He is talking about figuring out how to make bonus more money and how to make pilots lives better. No real details on how but just that they are looking at it. He brought up the we have less deployments to the CENTCOM AOR so that should help. Then he admitted that he has no real solutions right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Asked about what are they doing to take additional duties off pilots backs (question about being and RA and instructor pilot). He didn’t say if it was on their radar prior to the question but did say it is now. Went into additional duties being downgraded. But then went into why it’s important to the AF works for the AF. And how if as an RA you know how the AFdoes money that it will be extremely important for you. So he side stepped the question kinda. And said that RA’s learn how the AF’s money works (debatable general. Agree to disagree). “The more you learn about money, the better off you will be in your Air Force Career.”He did say they are making a push for admin people in the squadrons. Then the moderator spoke up in favor of additional duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Talent market place question. WTF is that? Never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Guardian said: Talent market place question. WTF is that? Never heard of it. You've never done the MyVector thing where you see all the avaliable jobs for your rank and AFSC? It's what replaced the old ADP. Edited March 9, 2022 by pawnman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 You've never done the MyVector thing where you see all the avaliable jobs foe your rank and AFSC? It's what replaced the old ADP.Ah. Gotcha. Nope I haven’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEA Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Guardian said: Asked about what are they doing to take additional duties off pilots backs (question about being and RA and instructor pilot). He didn’t say if it was on their radar prior to the question but did say it is now. Went into additional duties being downgraded. But then went into why it’s important to the AF works for the AF. And how if as an RA you know how the AFdoes money that it will be extremely important for you. So he side stepped the question kinda. And said that RA’s learn how the AF’s money works (debatable general. Agree to disagree). “The more you learn about money, the better off you will be in your Air Force Career.” He did say they are making a push for admin people in the squadrons. Then the moderator spoke up in favor of additional duties. I mean..... I see the point here. I hate additional duties more than any other. But the AF knows it grabs its future commanders and GO's from the pilot ranks. Before you command a squadron you've hopefully hopped a few shops in a squadron and understand their basic mechanisms that make them work. Before you lead a group, you hopefully understand the spending and resource allocation. Goes on.... but what he's basically getting at is you are learning the foundations that the government operates on. The problem is...... only 10% of pilots are going to command. For the other 90% of pilots this a waste of time and its frankly exhausting. At the same time, we as a pilot union, get peeved when the AF crops its future leaders too early in their career and funnels them into better jobs. So I don't really have a good solution on this one either. 5 minutes ago, Guardian said: Talent market place question. WTF is that? Never heard of it. Replace the Airman Development Plan for finding and allocating assignments. You now bid on a assignments and commanders of those assignments can bid on you. Then some algorithm assigns you based on bids and needs of the Air Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 He just spent a lot of time talking about how do we lower washout rate from pilot training. And then threw a little caveat about how they want to make sure that the pilots are good. Seemed more important to him to lower the washout rate based on total amount of time spent on that in his answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Asked how he was going to get money and less additional duties. He responded that we aren’t aviators that are officers. We are officers that are aviators. Then went on to talk about officer ship. And how being an officer is more important than being an aviator but then discussed how we have to be as good of pilots as possible. So I like the guy and feel for him but that was a tough one for him to answer. He spoke about things that don’t equal each other. He wants pilots to be the best officers they can be by having additional duties and leadership responsibilities while being the best absolute aviator and warfighter possible. For most, those things can’t happen at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Worth the watch. A little over an hour long. Bottom line no 22 bonus yet till an appropriations bill is approved potential large bonus structure change in 23 (and they want people who sign the 22 or earlier to be able to sign on the 23 bonus). No change likely in additional duties, hired additional squadron help, or max amount in money for 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEA Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, Guardian said: Asked how he was going to get money and less additional duties. He responded that we aren’t aviators that are officers. We are officers that are aviators. Then went on to talk about officer ship. And how being an officer is more important than being an aviator but then discussed how we have to be as good of pilots as possible. So I like the guy and feel for him but that was a tough one for him to answer. He spoke about things that don’t equal each other. He wants pilots to be the best officers they can be by having additional duties and leadership responsibilities while being the best absolute aviator and warfighter possible. For most, those things can’t happen at the same time. Yeah, the problem is really difficult to solve unless there are some fundamental changes to the way the AF recruits, mentors and manages pilot manpower. I honestly thing we need a holistic look at force structure in general, starting with the officer/enlisted paradigm. Its something we grabbed from 17th century warfare and very little has been done to advance it. Not saying I have the ideas or the solutions but that's the place I would start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I’m still hung up on his attitude is every officer should desire to run the Air Force and be the best pilot while taking less money and doing additional work. That’s a tough one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, Guardian said: Asked about what are they doing to take additional duties off pilots backs (question about being and RA and instructor pilot). He didn’t say if it was on their radar prior to the question but did say it is now. Went into additional duties being downgraded. But then went into why it’s important to the AF works for the AF. And how if as an RA you know how the AFdoes money that it will be extremely important for you. So he side stepped the question kinda. And said that RA’s learn how the AF’s money works (debatable general. Agree to disagree). “The more you learn about money, the better off you will be in your Air Force Career.” He did say they are making a push for admin people in the squadrons. Then the moderator spoke up in favor of additional duties. I had to do RA stuff for a while. I learned very little about budgeting and a whole lot about what a pain DTS and GPC programs are to manage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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