cryoglobin Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I am not sure I am understanding "have not reached 12 years 364 days TAFMS as of 30 September 2012". I don't think I will be eligible this year because my ADSC is 02 October 13. And next year I will have exceeded 12 years 364 days as of 30 September 2014. So either I am interpreting that wrong, or I somehow ended up on a timeline where I will never be eligible for the ACP, assuming they do not change the verbiage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilon Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'm cautiously optimistic that the $35k for 7 yrs rumor is true...seems like an OG at KRND might indeed leak that to his fence-sitters. Plus it happened just before it was signed Friday and he's collocated with his bros at AFPC...this could get very interesting. 7 years at 35k a year might be a game changer. That "devil money" as someone else on here called it might be compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty-six & Two Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) I am not sure I am understanding "have not reached 12 years 364 days TAFMS as of 30 September 2012". I don't think I will be eligible this year because my ADSC is 02 October 13. And next year I will have exceeded 12 years 364 days as of 30 September 2014. So either I am interpreting that wrong, or I somehow ended up on a timeline where I will never be eligible for the ACP, assuming they do not change the verbiage. You will fall under the FY14 ACP (or whatever they decide to call it). Based upon your dates, you will not be eligible for the uncommitted bonus (3,4, or 5 years at $15k). The only bonus you will be eligible for is the initial bonus (5 years at $25k). Disclaimer: This is assuming they don't change any of the criteria. Edit: When we had the 8 year UPT commitment, the uncommitted bonus seemed more feasible as guys could not take the initial and delay a year or two to take the uncommitted bonus. As we get to where those groups are not eligible for the uncommitted, it would seem like that criteria may have to change if they plan on keeping it around. With the 10 year, most people are not going to be eligible for the uncommitted bonus, so why keep it around? Edited June 11, 2013 by Fifty-six & Two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11F Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 While I realize this is comparing green apples to red apples, I found this article interesting in regards to the renaming of the AD bonus from ACP to ARP for two reasons. 1) They changed the max from $25k to $30k. 2) They made it specific to MWS. http://www.homestead.afrc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123327616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I read that as 10K a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindsight2020 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I read that as 10K a year. Correct. The TR bonus is 10K/yr. People are confusing that with the AD/AGR ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11F Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Good point. The apple sure looked nice and green though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Release date of 25 June is what a bro emailed today for those expecting news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techsan Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Release date of 25 June is what a bro emailed today for those expecting news. Sounds legit...especially coming from a bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Sounds legit...especially coming from a bro. Yes, the Bro network has never let us down when it comes to talk of the Bonus. Edited March 1, 2014 by Butters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty-six & Two Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Sounds legit...especially coming from a bro. ACP phone number says on or about 25 June. My guess is sometime in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONIS Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 The 2013 ARP (ACP) was released from JFHQ today. I just got an email from our OG with the memo and policy letter. Ping your leadership for info beotches. In other news, I'm just glad that I don't have to check this blog every other day and be subjected to Butter's bullshit rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 The 2013 ARP (ACP) was released from JFHQ today. I just got an email from our OG with the memo and policy letter. Ping your leadership for info beotches. In other news, I'm just glad that I don't have to check this blog every other day and be subjected to Butter's bullshit rhetoric. And?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slackline Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 And?? No kidding! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONIS Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 And?? Sorry, wanted to read the policy before I posted further just to ensure that I didn't pass any misinformation. Same as last year: 25K for 5 years active duty, 25K for 4 AGR. No 35K for 7 option but it looks like the 50% up front is still available for AD. For any folks who were casual or getting their master's degree immediately after college etc. check the verbage on the follow-on 2 year (15K) bonus for AGR. The 2 year follow-on cannot take you past 18yrs total time of service. I'm just glad that it has been released and the bros can start getting paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONIS Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Sorry, wanted to read the policy before I posted further just to ensure that I didn't pass any misinformation. Same as last year: 25K for 5 years active duty, 25K for 4 AGR. No 35K for 7 option but it looks like the 50% up front is still available for AD. For any folks who were casual or getting their master's degree immediately after college etc. check the verbage on the follow-on 2 year (15K) bonus for AGR. The 2 year follow-on cannot take you past 18yrs total time of service. I'm just glad that it has been released and the bros can start getting paid. One more thing to note: AD guys QC your policy letter clearly. The version that I am reading is tailored for ANG pilots. Just FYI. Cheers, BONIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I liked the sound of the $35K for 7 years for the 11H's a lot better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 In other news, I'm just glad that I don't have to check this blog every other day and be subjected to Butter's bullshit rhetoric. I would not call my rhetoric bullshit! My rhetoric is cheeky and fun. You leaving everyone hanging was crule and tragic. {this space reserved for future bullshit rhetoric when I have more time} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I would not call my rhetoric bullshit! My rhetoric is cheeky and fun. You leaving everyone hanging was crule and tragic. {this space reserved for future bullshit rhetoric when I have more time} Well played sir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I would not call my rhetoric bullshit! My rhetoric is cheeky and fun. You leaving everyone hanging was crule and tragic. Crule! You must be French! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Crule! You must be French! No, my iPhone is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11F Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Thanks for posting, Bonis. You've seriously got to be kidding me - all of that extra time to release this thing and it's exactly the same. Our government is so dysfunctional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilon Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Thanks for posting, Bonis. You've seriously got to be kidding me - all of that extra time to release this thing and it's exactly the same. Our government is so dysfunctional. No kidding. I think it was just to let some of the fiscal tempers settle down before they post it on af.mil. Just a tactic to make it sound like pilots aren't getting bonuses in a time of austerity. The name change is part of that as well. On another note, no increase or change to the plan is not going to improve retention. The same death spiral will still exist. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimalMother Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Good Lord, after all that this is the best the AF can do? I guess in the end I'm not actually that surprised. I do think, however, that the AF lost at least a few good dudes who were sitting on the fence waiting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilon Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Good Lord, after all that this is the best the AF can do? I guess in the end I'm not actually that surprised. I do think, however, that the AF lost at least a few good dudes who were sitting on the fence waiting. You said it exactly, in the end I'm not all that surprised. Depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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