contraildash Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 When were B-1s getting shot at by SAMs? This popped up on my feed:https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_m5cDMuotx/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 B-1 doing SEAD/DEAD "so the rest of the missions could go safely," a bomber dodging a SAM, and the pilot hearing the missile? Sounds like that story might be pushing the 10% rule. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arg Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I was looking for the shot glasses on the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Same as the 130 crews filing MANPADS shots every other week in AFG 15 years in. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/108502/richard-m-clark/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contraildash Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 Same as the 130 crews filing MANPADS shots every other week in AFG 15 years in.Always loved the ‘we got shot at short final to Kandahar’. Sure ya did.My personal favorite was 2017 Iraq. Was in a 4-ship flying just north of Tikrit, cruising at 10,000 when a ‘130 passing above us calls out heavy AAA that was tracking them. They then punched flares. It was a riot to us watching from below. I’m sure they got their AFCAMs….Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCO Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 3 hours ago, contraildash said: Always loved the ‘we got shot at short final to Kandahar’. Sure ya did. My personal favorite was 2017 Iraq. Was in a 4-ship flying just north of Tikrit, cruising at 10,000 when a ‘130 passing above us calls out heavy AAA that was tracking them. They then punched flares. It was a riot to us watching from below. I’m sure they got their AFCAMs…. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I love these hate on other platforms stories. I did 4 months in Afghanistan in Herks and we’d hate on C-17 and tankers for the same thing and didn’t call in anything or get AFCMS except the plane that came back with holes in it, but we assumed all of the other dumb platforms who don’t know what they are doing were. Like the C-17 on short final into Kandahar 5 miles in front of me yelling on the radio he was taking fire while I was staring at him on nogs seeing nothing. Everyone else that doesn’t fly what I fly is dumb! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff_T Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 7 hours ago, MCO said: Everyone else that doesn’t fly what I fly is dumb! This. Who cares what others went through. My training sorties in helos were pretty fucking scary sometimes as well. You wanna have the shit scared out of you, teach a new CP how to do 180 autorotations in a Huey. Much scarier than seeing people shoot into the air. Edit: Don't tell infantry guys about how scared you were getting "shot at" or what a badass you are for it. Hogs and helos might get a pass on this one but most others probably not. Edited September 14 by Biff_T Afterthought 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbar Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 22 hours ago, contraildash said: When were B-1s getting shot at by SAMs? This popped up on my feed: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_m5cDMuotx/ OIF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindsight2020 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) As a career REMF and former CAF guy during a time when MWS got told to sit on its hands and navel-gaze in PACAF, I'm completely indifferent to the back and forth of proving one's ego/legitimacy in life via these anecdotes. But, there is a cohort of veterans who unironically advocate for the means-testing of outright retirement benefits based on a combat service metric. Nasty and divisive undercurrent if I ever heard one; I can't break bread with those people. And I do challenge those utterances publicly, as letting that narrative stand unchallenged can be materially important to all of us. Thankfully, even Congress isn't as myopic so as to buy into such nonsense as a matter of policy. Brittle egos abound. Edited September 14 by hindsight2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 6 hours ago, hindsight2020 said: But, there is a cohort of veterans who unironically advocate for the means-testing of outright retirement benefits based on a combat service metric. What? They think someone shouldn’t get retirement benefits if they hadn’t done X or experienced Y? That’s real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindsight2020 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, brabus said: What? They think someone shouldn’t get retirement benefits if they hadn’t done X or experienced Y? That’s real? Reduced benefits to be exact. My particular exchange's demographic happened to be a group of retired combat arms Army officers. One went so far as to imply there is a degree of stolen valor from veterans who receive benefits (retirement or otherwise) whose service lack the combat prefix as they see it. They also proudly display "combat vet" bumper stickers on their pov, with the combat underlined. Real divisive stuff. At any rate, when I hear this back and forth on here about combat cred among airframes, as a timing/circumstantial REMF I of course handwave it away as the usual friendly banter. But it does take me back to exchanges with people who do hold quite radical and incisive views of what qualifies as honorable service. One for whom the DoD's decision to recognize/compensate veteran service on an equal footing, is considered very much an affront to their own. Edited September 15 by hindsight2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Wow, those are some real turbo douches. Army officers though, doesn’t surprise me. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contraildash Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 Well this went a weird direction, wasn’t aware of that kind of toxic idea/attitude/movement with some vets. We all have knuckleheads in our various MWSs, my story was to highlight those people because they deserve the razz. Back to B-1s doing SEAD in OIF…..tell us more.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream big Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 23 minutes ago, brabus said: Wow, those are some real turbo douches. Army officers though, doesn’t surprise me. For real, you want to see some arrogant pricks, meet an Army “Combat Arms” officer. When I worked a Joint Staff assignment with them, when they got lippy I asked why my passengers were PMSing!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledemployee Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Hate on other airfare stories I chalk up to friendly ball busting, mostly. Like a C5 calling out AAA in OIF, but was really shooting stars. Or the 25 mile C-17 all lights on straight in to ORBD at night, then FODs the runway with flares on roundout. Or the lawn darter SOF that called our ops to ask what our pilot category mins for takeoff were 😅 See, lots of silliness out there. I will 2nd the Army officer antics. Many were alright, but too many were downright conniving MFers. On 9/14/2024 at 2:26 AM, MCO said: Everyone else that doesn’t fly what I fly is dumb! Right on, Orlando! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 19 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said: Right on, Orlando! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooter Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I don’t think the B-1s were ever doing SEAD/DEAD in the traditional sense, but if you’ve got 24x 31’s, and you’re going in the MEZ anyway, and a few of them aren’t spoken for, whats a few extra bombs between us friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 2 hours ago, Pooter said: I don’t think the B-1s were ever doing SEAD/DEAD in the traditional sense, but if you’ve got 24x 31’s, and you’re going in the MEZ anyway, and a few of them aren’t spoken for, whats a few extra bombs between us friends You don't read enough Dale Brown 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ratner Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 I got fired at in the MC-12 when I was in Afghanistan. Night time, I look out and sure enough big bright ball of fire tracking towards us. I can even see the smoke trail a little in the dark. I jammed my finger on the yoke button and fire off a bunch of flares as my brain catches up and realizes that this missile is coming from above us, which seems like a pretty advanced weapon system for the Afghans. Turns out it was a space-launched munition, and while I'm not entirely sure which planet is responsible, I suspect Mars, but my gut tells me Uranus is responsible... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire4effect Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 My money is on this guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledemployee Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Fucking Klingons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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