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40 minutes ago, Pooter said:

Well from the looks of the video they never went on her property, but it still is well outside the bounds of professional journalism. 
 

Funny how these baseops freedom champions are all for civility and respectful discourse, unless it's someone they don't like.  In that case, chase that bitch and keep filming! And make some demeaning comments about her weight while we're at it!  

Probably more to do with the fact that over 2 decades, we've slowly agreed as a country that this type of behavior is acceptable. 

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1 hour ago, Pooter said:

Well from the looks of the video they never went on her property, but it still is well outside the bounds of professional journalism. 
 

Funny how these baseops freedom champions are all for civility and respectful discourse, unless it's someone they don't like.  In that case, chase that bitch and keep filming! And make some demeaning comments about her weight while we're at it!  

The journalist was more professional than anything I’ve seen from Fox/CNN/other MSM in decades. The sidewalk is public property and the journalist can legally be there and film and ask questions. There was no ambush. Stop lying. She could’ve engaged in the questioning, or merely stayed silent and went about her day, or she could’ve walked back to her house. She fled in terror because she knows the People are catching on.

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2 hours ago, Pooter said:

To track down someones home address and confront them by surprise while they're walking, and film them without permission? Yes, that is professionally inappropriate.  
 

It's wrong when protesters accost republicans in DC restaurants and this is wrong too.  Respect for public and private life boundaries should exist for people you agree and disagree with.


Here's a crazy idea. Go to the Pfizer offices and get a statement from the company. I'm sure they have an attentive and very well staffed PR department.

I don’t disagree—unfortunately we’re at a point where if a person doesn’t agree with someone else then said person is a fascist, racist, communist, anti-science, libtard, bigot, blah blah blah.  And when you label someone one of these, all forms of decency towards each other goes out the window.  This is what people resort to when they can’t just argue with their ideas.

Don’t worry…we’re soon going to learn that economics doesn’t care about name calling.

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9 minutes ago, FLEA said:

Probably more to do with the fact that over 2 decades, we've slowly agreed as a country that this type of behavior is acceptable. 

Wrong. We haven't all agreed to this. People still understand what standard of behavior is unacceptable. They just selectively apply that standard. 
 

A week ago republicans had a massive problem with protesters following Kyrsten Sinema into a bathroom. At least that was at work. Now it's magically okay to invade someone's private life, and not only that! When she runs away after being rightfully startled by a camera crew of random dudes confronting her on a neighborhood street, it's supposed to be some kind of damning admission of guilt. 
 

This is actually turning out to be a pretty good litmus test. If you expect equal treatment of people and hold everyone to a baseline standard of decency, there's a good chance you're a person who holds principles in higher regard than political affiliation. If you selectively apply those standards and relish when they're violated against people you don't like, there's a good chance you're a partisan hack. 

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1 hour ago, dogfish78 said:

The journalist was more professional than anything I’ve seen from Fox/CNN/other MSM in decades. The sidewalk is public property and the journalist can legally be there and film and ask questions. There was no ambush. Stop lying. She could’ve engaged in the questioning, or merely stayed silent and went about her day, or she could’ve walked back to her house. She fled in terror because she knows the People are catching on.

Ahh yes. Definitely no ambush. Because that's how normal people conduct interviews.. by sneaking up on someone walking with headphones on their own personal time.  Yeah.. come to think of it that's where most tv interviews I see take place.. on quiet neighborhood sidewalks...

 

As super interesting as it is to debate public/personal boundaries with you, turns out there's a difference between the limits of what is legal, and what is professionally acceptable.  I'm not all that surprised you think this is okay because, again, it's a person you don't like being subjected to indecent behavior. Reference my above comment about partisan hackery. 
 

And the fact you think she's running away because "tHe pEoPle" are catching on and not because a crew of strange dudes with cameras are accosting her in her private life, is the icing on the stupid cake. 

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5 hours ago, pawnman said:

I certainly wouldn't reward this behavior with an interview. 

Y'all seem pretty content with invading someone's personal property for folks claiming to support personal freedom. 

Happens to movie/sports/rock stars all the time and no one ever bats an eyelash.  In fact, the tabloids make people money off of this behavior.  

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3 minutes ago, TheNewGazmo said:

Happens to movie/sports/rock stars all the time and no one ever bats an eyelash.  In fact, the tabloids make people money off of this behavior.  

And usually the actors/ athletes/ musicians do what she did...keep walking and don't engage. 

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1 hour ago, TheNewGazmo said:

Happens to movie/sports/rock stars all the time and no one ever bats an eyelash.  In fact, the tabloids make people money off of this behavior.  

Yeah dude.. it's called the paparazzi and it's the absolute dumpster basement of the journalism world.  So maybe it should give you pause if you're trying to do serious political reporting and behaving like the paparazzi.

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5 hours ago, HeloDude said:

I don’t disagree—unfortunately we’re at a point where if a person doesn’t agree with someone else then said person is a fascist, racist, communist, anti-science, libtard, bigot, blah blah blah.  And when you label someone one of these, all forms of decency towards each other goes out the window.  This is what people resort to when they can’t just argue with their ideas.

Don’t worry…we’re soon going to learn that economics doesn’t care about name calling.

Funny you should mention that...My stock guy claims that he sees inflation and a bit of a pull back...I see deflation and a full blown recession.........employers near where the Afghans are camped out should be banging down the CO's door to get at these potential employees..they are gonna need 'em...As to being jumped by camera dudes..       If you anticipate such a thing..carry a small can of red spray paint and coat the lens..

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20 minutes ago, Alpharatz said:

Funny you should mention that...My stock guy claims that he sees inflation and a bit of a pull back...I see deflation and a full blown recession.........employers near where the Afghans are camped out should be banging down the CO's door to get at these potential employees..they are gonna need 'em...As to being jumped by camera dudes..       If you anticipate such a thing..carry a small can of red spray paint and coat the lens..

Deflation? How?

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If he was just a simple man who messed up and owned up to it, my opinion would be different.

As it is, he seems incapable of admission of fault or owning his comments not being correct. And he pushes his narrative instead of owning mistakes and adjusting. He seems to have no integrity and is solely focused on himself and his legacy. Along with Disney.

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Regardless of whether you believe the jab is worth it or not, it is important to note that it seems the people administering the shots are not doing it correctly. It's not a simple poke and go and it's important to ensure you are not injecting it into the bloodstream.






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On 10/24/2021 at 10:47 PM, Negatory said:

Have to point out a flaw in my analysis. The rates of infection between vaxxed/unvaxxed could easily be biased by "anti-vaxxers" being significantly less likely to get tested for COVID. That means that the actual rate of cases per 100k could be significantly higher than just a population analysis.

Would need to see results from a random sampling of the population to get a more accurate view.

I thought maybe the opposite could be true. The vaxxed get a free pass at large social events, in corporate policy and other capacities, whereas the  unvaxxed are required to provide proof of a negative test, which would lead to a large skew in favor of the effectiveness of the vaccine with respect to cases.

However, upon recording a “positive case” there has not been accurate and consistent recording of two VERY IMPORTANT factors: is the patient presenting with other symptoms (remember + PCR should not be used to diagnose CV19 alone), and what is the patients vaccination status.

Largely those two factors are missing or have been assumed in many public data sets so most past recorded pcr data is not very useful…

garbage data in garbage data out.

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Soooo, the Chinese flu literally almost killed me earlier this summer.  I didn't think I was especially at risk as, although I'm in my late 50s, I wasn't overweight, didn't have any known complicating factors, etc., etc.

Was not vaccinated because A) I remember the anthrax fiasco from before and B) wanted a fully approved FDA vaccine in place before getting the shot(s).

Although I retired last year, I actually started work again as a GS again because I was bored and a buddy asked me to apply.  Was only in the saddle for a month when I got sick after going TDY.

Two weeks of hospitalization included two periods of the question on whether I would continue to breathe or not.  

Turns out that the pneumonia I had 25 years ago doesn't go away, it just nurses its' drink in the corner of my lungs until the friendly Chinese hooker named Covid shows up and wants to party and things got out of control...

I never understood the part when terminally ill patients just give up - we are trained in the "will to survive" thing at SERE and as part of being alive.

Now I do.  I have never been that utterly exhausted/tired/just wanted it to stop and hope to never again.  I was fine if the light turned out permanently.  13L/min of O2.  Essentially pressure breathing in order for enough oxygen to get in me to keep me alive.  

I recount the melodrama above because after I got out of the hospital, ol' Joe decides he's king and says I got to get vaccinated.  Even though the vaccine doesn't prevent the virus, has noted/documented side-effects, and, this is the important part, I ALREADY HAD THE VIRUS AND RECOVERED.  My body is swimming in antibodies.  My lung specialist says not to get said vaccine for at least a year as I am likely to have a severe reaction and my lungs, already now f'd because of this, wouldn't take kindly to another CCP orgy.

But that's not good enough.  So I thoroughly enjoyed quitting.  F' the Man.

Fortunately, I'm in a position to do so.

Please note that nothing written has been put out by the President so legal challenges are difficult, although some are underway.

Federal departments, like DoD, have put out their own directives.  Those also are under challenges.

But the sneaky part is Biden having corporate America do his bidding without said Presidential direction.  Get a jab or lose your job.

Seems a bit Stalinist-like to me.

Not to mention, the President does not have that power under our system of government.  No law has been passed.  Yet many people are happy, even eager to comply.  

Want the vaccine?  Great, go get it.  

Don't want it?  Don't especially since the virus shrugs off the vaccine anyway.

 

It's all fun and games until the President and the bureaucracy decide what the limits of your freedom are.  Without you getting a say so.  Comply or else.

For your own good, of course.  It's great to be the one deciding, ain't it?

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7 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

I recount the melodrama above because after I got out of the hospital, ol' Joe decides he's king and says I got to get vaccinated.  Even though the vaccine doesn't prevent the virus, has noted/documented side-effects, and, this is the important part, I ALREADY HAD THE VIRUS AND RECOVERED.  My body is swimming in antibodies.  My lung specialist says not to get said vaccine for at least a year as I am likely to have a severe reaction and my lungs, already now f'd because of this, wouldn't take kindly to another CCP orgy.

But that's not good enough.  So I thoroughly enjoyed quitting.  F' the Man.

Fortunately, I'm in a position to do so.

Please note that nothing written has been put out by the President so legal challenges are difficult, although some are underway.

Federal departments, like DoD, have put out their own directives.  Those also are under challenges.

What drove you to quit, as opposed to staying on and letting them terminate you?

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The satisfaction of leaving on my terms.  

I already formally retired last year and am drawing a retirement check for a 12 year GS career.

Although I liked the folks I was working with, including management, which is a rarity, doing government work was just not for me anymore.

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19 hours ago, brickhistory said:

My body is swimming in antibodies.  My lung specialist says not to get said vaccine for at least a year as I am likely to have a severe reaction and my lungs, already now f'd because of this, wouldn't take kindly to another CCP orgy.

1) Glad you're okay. 

2)  Does your situation not qualify for a medical exemption? I would think a lung specialist specifically telling you it would be dangerous for you to get the shot would easily qualify. And again, I don't agree with mandates but I thought they do have provisions for extenuating medical circumstances. 

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The girl got covid yesterday and had been vaccinated with pfizer. I do think/hope the vax is helping to lessen her symptoms, and I would still encourage it. 

 

In terms of forcing regular people to get the vax as some sort of silver bullet to "stamp out" COVID. It's not happening, even though I  wish the opposite were true. At least not with this shot. Get the shot if your comfy with it but COVID is here to stay, we're all gunna have to live with it. 

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On 10/25/2021 at 10:22 PM, Lord Ratner said:

Deflation? How?

Not enough employees in the system to make the money to buy the stuff to keep the prices on the stuff to hold the margins and away we go...Time will tell.....Last week I worked with a new grad who told me that "a lot" of his fellow grads in this particular program are taking big salary hits that they never expected...My brother works in lumber distribution..but has a CDL ..they are so short of truck drivers..(see get paid...spend....margins above..) that they wanted to pull him out of his position to drive a semi....'cause he's the only one who can back a truck without crashing into the dock.  Does not seem like the set up for inflation...A couple of months ago I paid 85 bucks for an 8 foot 4x4 and a piece of 4x4 wafer board because of a lumber shortage....does that add to the profit line?..Or slam down demand?....I guess we shall see...

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