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1 minute ago, FlyingWolf said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/01/wuhan-coronavirus-lab-leak-covid-virus-origins-china

"Because if the hypothesis is right, it will soon start to dawn on people that our mistake was not insufficient reverence for scientists, or inadequate respect for expertise, or not enough censorship on Facebook. It was a failure to think critically about all of the above, to understand that there is no such thing as absolute expertise."

Think about all the people in this country who would, without question, suck start the shit out of a pitot tube if I told them it was the safest way to test it...I’m a pilot, so therefore an expert and everything I say regarding planes is true, and cannot be critically examined or questioned!

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55 minutes ago, brabus said:

Think about all the people in this country who would, without question, suck start the shit out of a pitot tube if I told them it was the safest way to test it...I’m a pilot, so therefore an expert and everything I say regarding planes is true, and cannot be critically examined or questioned!

 

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Are they doing ok?  Mild symptoms? Age?  

Dad is pretty much over it. His symptoms weren’t too bad he says. Slight fever and body aches. My mom is feeling pretty rough though. She has pretty much most if not all of the normal symptoms. Hers have been pretty strong for the whole time and she’s over the 10 day mark now and still feeling rough. Her symptoms came a few days after my dad. She hasn’t had to go to the hospital though. Mainly just laying low and resting it off. They are 70 and 69.


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2.5 months vaccinated and still gets the virus....albeit w/ "milder" symptoms and hopefully no hospitilzation.  Makes me wonder how this will all pan out in 6-9 months especially w/ various strains popping up...another round of shots?

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5 hours ago, slc said:

2.5 months vaccinated and still gets the virus....albeit w/ "milder" symptoms and hopefully no hospitilzation.  Makes me wonder how this will all pan out in 6-9 months especially w/ various strains popping up...another round of shots?

Probably like the flu, periodic booster shots.

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Now thar so much more is coming out, it’s clear this entire thing was the bullshit many of us suspected from the start.  A Chinese bio weapon escaped from a lab funded by the very people insisting it wasn’t.  Masks were just a distraction to avoid this fact, and the doctors forcing masks compliance knew they were useless.  Medically valid and effective treatments ignored and derided to push experimental vaccines.  Those vaccines now mandated for college students in little danger from C19, but the vaccines are making their hearts explode.  Medical doctors censored and banned from media for pointing to evidence.  Have all the “conspiracies” come true or only most?

3 years ago, I wouldn’t have believed anything this insane and dystopian could rapidly grip America.  I was totally wrong.  We are living in scary and unpredictable times.  

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3 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Now thar so much more is coming out, it’s clear this entire thing was the bullshit many of us suspected from the start.  A Chinese bio weapon escaped from a lab funded by the very people insisting it wasn’t.  Masks were just a distraction to avoid this fact, and the doctors forcing masks compliance knew they were useless.  Medically valid and effective treatments ignored and derided to push experimental vaccines.  Those vaccines now mandated for college students in little danger from C19, but the vaccines are making their hearts explode.  Medical doctors censored and banned from media for pointing to evidence.  Have all the “conspiracies” come true or only most?

3 years ago, I wouldn’t have believed anything this insane and dystopian could rapidly grip America.  I was totally wrong.  We are living in scary and unpredictable times.  

When did Alex Jones make a username on Baseops?

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26 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:

When did Alex Jones make a username on Baseops?

“Hearts exploding” might be a bit of hyperbole, but I’d challenge anyone to refute what tac airlifter said.

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3 minutes ago, Blue said:

“Hearts exploding” might be a bit of hyperbole, but I’d challenge anyone to refute what tac airlifter said.

The point of mass vaccinations is reducing potential vectors for the virus.  The students may not be at risk, but their professors, administrators, maintenance folks, and janitors are.

"Making hearts explode"...pretty sure more students are at risk from alcohol poisoning or high cholesterol than they are from the vaccine.  For a bunch of folks preaching about the 99% survival rate for Covid-19, you don't seem capable of grasping the 99.9999% chance of zero side effects from the vaccine.

The masks have been shown to reduce spread not because they filter the virus from you breathing in, but because it catches the moisture when you exhale, limiting the amount of virus put into the air and reducing the distance it travels when exhaled.

Question to those who won't get the vaccine because it's 'emergency use'...do you plan to get it once it is "fully authorized", which is anticipated later this year?  Is that truly your only hang-up...approval from a government agency?  Or will you have a new objection once it is fully authorized?

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21 minutes ago, pawnman said:

The point of mass vaccinations is reducing potential vectors for the virus.  The students may not be at risk, but their professors, administrators, maintenance folks, and janitors are.

"Making hearts explode"...pretty sure more students are at risk from alcohol poisoning or high cholesterol than they are from the vaccine.  For a bunch of folks preaching about the 99% survival rate for Covid-19, you don't seem capable of grasping the 99.9999% chance of zero side effects from the vaccine.

The masks have been shown to reduce spread not because they filter the virus from you breathing in, but because it catches the moisture when you exhale, limiting the amount of virus put into the air and reducing the distance it travels when exhaled.

Question to those who won't get the vaccine because it's 'emergency use'...do you plan to get it once it is "fully authorized", which is anticipated later this year?  Is that truly your only hang-up...approval from a government agency?  Or will you have a new objection once it is fully authorized?

No, most vaccines take about a decade to get approval. In addition, only about 6% of vaccines ever get approval. We just approved four in literally months. Hard pass for me dude, but I also eat well and work out often. 

It's easy for those who have not taken care of themselves for decades and who are at risk to ask others to sacrifice for the benefit of those who are at risk. Tough. 

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Question for those that have gotten vaccinated...how do you know it's still effective? Do you need a booster soon? If so, when?

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5 minutes ago, VMFA187 said:

No, most vaccines take about a decade to get approval. In addition, only about 6% of vaccines ever get approval. We just approved four in literally months. Hard pass for me dude, but I also eat well and work out often. 

It's easy for those who have not taken care of themselves for decades and who are at risk to ask others to sacrifice for the benefit of those who are at risk. Tough. 

Interesting take from someone in a profession that literally exists to take risks so the public doesn't have to.

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2 minutes ago, pawnman said:

Interesting take from someone in a profession that literally exists to take risks so the public doesn't have to.

If you're worried about covid, get the vaccine then you should be fine - Right? Why do I have to get it if I'm not concerned?

What if someone has already had covid? Should they be required to get the vaccine? 

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7 minutes ago, slc said:

Question for those that have gotten vaccinated...how do you know it's still effective? Do you need a booster soon? If so, when?

I can only go by what has been published (regarding continued effectiveness), and by anecdotal evidence from my physician.  I guess that leave me in a wait and see.

Aren't boosters being talked about, but nothing conclusive have been decided?  I think that's tied in with the accursed "delta" variant - will it arrive, and from where, and to whom?

 

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I highly, highly recommend everyone listen to episode 1671 of Joe Rogan's podcast with guests Bret Weinstein and Dr Pierre Kory. It's the closest thing that I've seen to an incontrovertible conspiracy theory play out in real life. Summary: Critical information on the benefits and efficacy of the drug Ivermectin for treating Covid has been suppressed by media outlets, tech companies, the pharmaceutical industry, and the government for almost a year now. It's possible that Covid could have been close to completely eradicated within six months using this ultra-inexpensive, ultra-effective treatment.

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1 hour ago, VMFA187 said:

If you're worried about covid, get the vaccine then you should be fine - Right? Why do I have to get it if I'm not concerned?

What if someone has already had covid? Should they be required to get the vaccine? 

I did get the vaccine. But if you ever want the pandemic to end, you need to shrink the reservoir where the virus can reside. 

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26 minutes ago, pawnman said:

I did get the vaccine. But if you ever want the pandemic to end, you need to shrink the reservoir where the virus can reside. 

What pandemic? Life is completely normal in southern California. 

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44 minutes ago, VMFA187 said:

What pandemic? Life is completely normal in southern California. 

As it should be. We should absolutely reap the benefits of our success in dramatically reducing the numbers of sick and dying of coronavirus. Doesn’t mean pawnman is wrong though. Vaccination is not a purely transactional “how does it affect me” issue. Yes, a vaccine will be effective at preventing negative effects for an individual. But the real effectiveness lies in vaccines’ benefits to society as a whole. Vaccinate enough people and the disease can be almost entirely suppressed. I don’t think anyone should be forced into vaccination in a free society, but I encourage everyone I know to get it just for the simple fact that I don’t want to experience any more lockdowns or public health measures that negatively affect my quality of life. 

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