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On 12/30/2021 at 12:59 PM, Waingro said:

What's it like to read scientific literature, and only understand a small chunk of it? Is it like hearing someone speak Spanish and being able to pick out a few words here and there? Your clown emoji is fitting. 

On 12/30/2021 at 1:09 PM, Prozac said:

No. Most people listening to a foreign language are capable of realizing they don’t understand most of it. What’s going on here is more akin to a non flying civilian perusing your dash 1 for an hour & then promptly declaring himself an expert in your weapons system. 

Can you explain why the CDC is changing this? Why is the test being revoked? This is not a gotcha— like I legitimately do not understand why the change is occurring. The website does not make it apparent or clear... 

 

 

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-judge-blocks-pentagon-punishing-navy-seals-who-refused-covid-19-vaccine-2022-01-04/

 

It's a temporary start anyway.  If it's upheld all the way up to SCOTUS, I will be glad.  

As well as wonder how DoD will handle the lawsuits from those already separated.

But getting rid of around 10,000 personnel was worth it to make a (worthless) point, right?

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I bet there are those on this board that think yes, it was worth it and good riddance. The same people that applauds the degradation of the military in the name of inclusiveness, diversity,and equity. And it started at the top. Thanks fingers Goldfien!

Science and diversity only matter as a verbal defense for stupid decisions not actually supported by true science or diversification.

Enter Pawn or Prozac reply to why it is important to weaken our military and country in the name of Covid defense even after the great and powerful Fauci flip flops on society closure and requirements for those who get covid. Which is ok now because he has no defense for why those who do “everything right” per his instructions are still getting covid. His only defense is to pretend it’s new information and that people haven’t been saying don’t shut down society or make mandates for almost 2 years now.

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On 12/28/2021 at 11:49 AM, Negatory said:

We just got to 2X on confirmed cases. Probably 1.0M a day if you include unreported literally now. I’m not kidding you!

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coronavirus-tally-us-counts-more-than-500000-new-covid-cases-in-a-day-lifting-the-daily-average-to-a-near-1-year-high-2021-12-28

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/04/us-global-record-more-than-1m-daily-covid-cases

@ViperMan et al? Looks like your feelings based argument that we would never go a multiple above 250k isn’t panning out. Just like COVID going away on its own, ending when it heats up, disappearing, etc…

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https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/04/us-global-record-more-than-1m-daily-covid-cases
[mention=71394]ViperMan[/mention] et al? Looks like your feelings based argument that we would never go a multiple above 250k isn’t panning out. Just like COVID going away on its own, ending when it heats up, disappearing, etc…
Deaths look like they are hovering at about half to maybe alightly less than half of what they were during last winter's Delta surge. Do we have data that shows the majority of current deaths are the unvaccinated?
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21 minutes ago, TheNewGazmo said:
1 hour ago, Negatory said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/04/us-global-record-more-than-1m-daily-covid-cases
[mention=71394]ViperMan[/mention] et al? Looks like your feelings based argument that we would never go a multiple above 250k isn’t panning out. Just like COVID going away on its own, ending when it heats up, disappearing, etc…

Deaths look like they are hovering at about half to maybe alightly less than half of what they were during last winter's Delta surge. Do we have data that shows the majority of current deaths are the unvaccinated?

We do, in fact, have that data.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

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2 hours ago, Negatory said:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/04/us-global-record-more-than-1m-daily-covid-cases

@ViperMan et al? Looks like your feelings based argument that we would never go a multiple above 250k isn’t panning out. Just like COVID going away on its own, ending when it heats up, disappearing, etc…

Is there a good source to find total tests administered across time? 
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that there has recently been a large sudden increase in tests done per day…

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9 hours ago, glockenspiel said:

Is there a good source to find total tests administered across time? 
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that there has recently been a large sudden increase in tests done per day…

image.thumb.png.5c485c79c32c3c0d9bdfcd62774cfba5.png

 

Doesn't appear that is the case. Although the positivity rate has increased by an order of magnitude.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

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14 hours ago, Guardian said:

Enter Pawn or Prozac reply to why it is important to weaken our military and country in the name of Covid defense

A few things here: Allowing military members to defy direct orders based on their religious beliefs will undoubtedly weaken, not strengthen our military.  Another thing that will weaken, not strengthen our position in the world would be not being able to deploy forces at a moment’s notice due to host nation requirements. Yet another thing that weakens, not strengthens our military is having entire ships or combat units taken out of action due to mass illness. 
 

Suggest you check the mirror as it is you, not I who is supporting policies that will weaken our military. 

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We are quickly headed towards a military that allows zero thinking.  We are only allowed to be lemmings and blindly follow our “leaders”, no matter how flawed they are.

 

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5 hours ago, Prozac said:

Yet another thing that weakens, not strengthens our military is having entire ships or combat units taken out of action due to mass illness. 

How do you justify mandatory vaccination as the solution to this problem when ships that are 100% vaccinated are being taken out by mass illness?  
 

 

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3 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

How do you justify mandatory vaccination as the solution to this problem when ships that are 100% vaccinated are being taken out by mass illness?  
 

 

It’s probably because they weren’t actually fully vaccinated. The majority of the ship only had 3 shots…you need at least 6-9 for full protection and to guarantee zero transmission. 

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9 hours ago, bennynova said:

We are quickly headed towards a military that allows zero thinking.  We are only allowed to be lemmings and blindly follow our “leaders”, no matter how flawed they are.

 

And that’s one of the ways throughout history militaries have been used to conduct atrocious actions against a group of humans. If someone advocates for black and white no questions/shut up and do as they’re told, they are part of the problem. Never have seen somebody with that mentality in the military do well at anything. 

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11 hours ago, bennynova said:

We are quickly headed towards a military that allows zero thinking.  We are only allowed to be lemmings and blindly follow our “leaders”, no matter how flawed they are.

"Headed?!?"

And no, that's not a 'STS' question, nor is it a grammatical one.

I am surprised at your claim we are "becoming" a military that allows zero thinking. 

Many will argue we reached that point years ago!

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8 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

How do you justify mandatory vaccination as the solution to this problem when ships that are 100% vaccinated are being taken out by mass illness?  
 

 

One tool in the tool box. Do you honestly expect military leaders to sit back and do NOTHING to attempt to combat a virus that severely threatens readiness? Tell me, what steps would you take if you were a member of the Joint Chiefs, a combatant commander, or even a WG/CC? 

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4 hours ago, brabus said:

And that’s one of the ways throughout history militaries have been used to conduct atrocious actions against a group of humans. If someone advocates for black and white no questions/shut up and do as they’re told, they are part of the problem. Never have seen somebody with that mentality in the military do well at anything. 

Oh gmafb! Refusing a direct order to get vaccinated (especially after you’ve already rolled up your sleeve for a phalanx of them) is HARDLY the same thing as looking the other way as your army marches an entire race of people into death camps. The constant comparisons to Nazi Germany/Stalinist Russia/etc. are laughable at best and highly offensive at worst and they make it hard to take any of your arguments seriously. What do you think leadership would’ve told some marine who refused to storm the beaches of Iwo Jima on religious grounds? Seriously, if someone was pulling this shit on any other issue, you’d call them out for the whiny, entitled bitches they are. 

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