Tank Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 https://federalnewsnetwork.com/defense-main/2019/02/owning-marijuana-stocks-may-skunk-your-security-clearance-or-chances-of-getting-one/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sua Sponte Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) How the would they know if you don’t mention it? Edited March 1, 2019 by Sua Sponte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Pretty sure they can see your financial holdingsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahWeed Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Sua Sponte said: How the would they know if you don’t mention it? Maybe I'm overly conservative, but this doesn't strike me as the best strategy for something like this. When the FBI showed up at my high school bud's house after I gave him as a reference for my security clearance back in the day, his mother about had a heart attack (in hindsight, he probably wasn't the best option considering his recent coke possession conviction - my bad). Fortunately, it all worked out for me. 🙄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWSO Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Marijuana “investments” could impact your clearance. I can’t wait for one fund manager with the TSP program to buy into some reefer company and take out the entire USAF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 What does smoking it with joe rogan do to your security clearance? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetfreezer Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Marijuana “investments” could impact your clearance. I can’t wait for one fund manager with the TSP program to buy into some reefer company and take out the entire USAF.SF86 guidance for foreign investments says diversified/public funds that happen to have foreign stocks need not be reported - it'd be logical to extend that to weed stocks. Caveat - requires logical govt behavior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbar Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 When I did a short stint as a security clearance background investigator post-retirement (before finding a real job), I don't recall having to ask anything about investments when I would "investigate" for TS clearances except for foreign financial interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 3/1/2019 at 1:25 AM, JeremiahWeed said: Maybe I'm overly conservative, but this doesn't strike me as the best strategy for something like this. When the FBI showed up at my high school bud's house after I gave him as a reference for my security clearance back in the day, his mother about had a heart attack (in hindsight, he probably wasn't the best option considering his recent coke possession conviction - my bad). Fortunately, it all worked out for me. 🙄 My college roommate was a small time weed dealer and when they came to talk to him, he grabbed all of his merchandise and headed for the state line. He called me about 10 times in an hour and told me how he wasn’t a rat and wouldn’t tell them anything (of which there was nothing to tell). That was an unintended hiccup to that process. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I just started "Murder Mountain" on Netflix about the marijuana industry in Humboldt county, CA. Fascinating look into the nuts and bolts of the "industry". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sua Sponte Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Danger41 said: My college roommate was a small time weed dealer and when they came to talk to him, he grabbed all of his merchandise and headed for the state line. He called me about 10 times in an hour and told me how he wasn’t a rat and wouldn’t tell them anything (of which there was nothing to tell). That was an unintended hiccup to that process. So, don’t list your buddy who’s a weed dealer as a reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 11:04 AM, pbar said: When I did a short stint as a security clearance background investigator post-retirement (before finding a real job), I don't recall having to ask anything about investments when I would "investigate" for TS clearances except for foreign financial interests. So the medical MJ card I have would probably have been discoverable no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Fake news [/thread]https://taskandpurpose.com/stocks-marijuana"A recent story that troops and Defense Department civilians cannot hold security clearances if they invest in companies that legally sell marijuana and cannabis products has turned out to be half baked"Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Received this email today:“The DoD Consolidated Adjudications Facility (CAF)’s current legal position is that ownership of marijuana stocks is considered involvement in drug-related activities and would be a "reportable incident" under the Continuous Evaluation process. OUSDI is currently drafting implementation guidance of the Security Executive Agent Directive (SEAD) 3, Reporting Requirements for Personnel with Access to Classified Information or Who Hold a Sensitive Position. Among other reportable activities required by SEAD3, the memo will address reporting requirements for covered individuals with financial investments or holdings in companies who sell or manufacture schedule I substances legally under state law. While the DoD CAF is currently working on guidance that will address marijuana-based investments, previous guidance issued by the CAF remains effective. Marijuana-based investments are considered a reportable incident and should be reported via the SF86C through the Unit Security Assistant to the IP Office and we will submit to the DoD CAF. We will keep you informed of any changes or updates from the DoD CAF or OUSDI regarding this subject matter. In cases where your member isn't directly choosing the stocks, he or she has the responsibility to stay informed and avoid violating the federal law.”Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 5 hours ago, di1630 said: Received this email today: “The DoD Consolidated Adjudications Facility (CAF)’s current legal position is that ownership of marijuana stocks is considered involvement in drug-related activities and would be a "reportable incident" under the Continuous Evaluation process. OUSDI is currently drafting implementation guidance of the Security Executive Agent Directive (SEAD) 3, Reporting Requirements for Personnel with Access to Classified Information or Who Hold a Sensitive Position. Among other reportable activities required by SEAD3, the memo will address reporting requirements for covered individuals with financial investments or holdings in companies who sell or manufacture schedule I substances legally under state law. While the DoD CAF is currently working on guidance that will address marijuana-based investments, previous guidance issued by the CAF remains effective. Marijuana-based investments are considered a reportable incident and should be reported via the SF86C through the Unit Security Assistant to the IP Office and we will submit to the DoD CAF. We will keep you informed of any changes or updates from the DoD CAF or OUSDI regarding this subject matter. In cases where your member isn't directly choosing the stocks, he or she has the responsibility to stay informed and avoid violating the federal law.” Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app That's the orignal that went out and is now being reported to not be true/accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWSO Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I would not be the first in your squadron to press to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Man Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) The TSP 'C' fund has Microsoft...how far down the rabbit hole will they go? https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-marijuana-tracking-software-2016-11 edit: and 'I' fund holds Novartis https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-18/tilray-goes-global-with-novartis-marijuana-sales-partnership Edited March 8, 2019 by Day Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 About as ridiculous as the Air Force investigating Elon musk for one hit of a blunt on joe rogans podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Not sure where they got their info, but turns out it's wrong. https://taskandpurpose.com/stocks-marijuana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 9:42 PM, Danger41 said: My college roommate was a small time weed dealer and when they came to talk to him, he grabbed all of his merchandise and headed for the state line. He called me about 10 times in an hour and told me how he wasn’t a rat and wouldn’t tell them anything (of which there was nothing to tell). That was an unintended hiccup to that process. Dude that is absolutely hilarious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosuper Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Damn, and I was thinking of growing hemp instead of corn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 2:02 PM, BashiChuni said: About as ridiculous as the Air Force investigating Elon musk for one hit of a blunt on joe rogans podcast They said they investigated him because they had too, he’s got NASA by the balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrizzell Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 More food for thought https://news.clearancejobs.com/2019/03/30/can-i-invest-in-a-marijuana-business-if-i-have-a-security-clearance-ask-cj/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazaam Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) On 3/2/2019 at 10:26 AM, Tonka said: What does smoking it with joe rogan do to your security clearance? Elon Musk’s security clearance under review by the Pentagon over pot use https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/07/elon-musk-security-clearance-under-review-pentagon Willing to bet he lose his SECRET clearance. You can keep your clearance if you self ID for being addicted. But not for what he did. Edited April 29, 2019 by Shazaam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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