Biff_T Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I did a lag roll pretty close to my form partner in T-6s. My instructor let me do it. It was my rec ride for form in T-6s. Other than my checkride the next day, it was one of my last memories of flying upside down, as I tracked helos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Biff_T said: I did a lag roll pretty close to my form partner in T-6s. My instructor let me do it. It was my rec ride for form in T-6s. Other than my checkride the next day, it was one of my last memories of flying upside down, as I tracked helos. You can fly upside down in helos! (once) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA187 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 38 minutes ago, HossHarris said: You can fly upside down in helos! (once) I think there is a video of a CH-53 doing a loop somewhere... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff_T Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, VMFA187 said: I think there is a video of a CH-53 doing a loop somewhere... https://youtu.be/VC2E8RJE3Jo Edit: Huge nutsack alert!!! Edited May 31, 2023 by Biff_T Afterthought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Biff_T said: https://youtu.be/VC2E8RJE3Jo Edit: Huge nutsack alert!!! In the early days of the -53 a loop was part of the FCF profile. At least according some of the sim instructors in Milton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff_T Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bigred said: In the early days of the -53 a loop was part of the FCF profile. At least according some of the sim instructors in Milton. As a former FCF pilot, thats "nuts", big huge ones lol. Edit: Fully articulated rotors won't fall off like a "semi rigid" (sts) underslung rotor. Lol. This gave me one more chance to use "semi rigid" in a professional conversation. Hats off to the old dudes! They did a lot of crazy shit before I was born. Loops in 53s, smoking in cockpits and fix to fixes without the GPS lol. Edited May 31, 2023 by Biff_T Afterthought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooter Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Pulling out of a loop at 900 AGL in a gigantic helicopter JFC yeah that's gonna be a no from me dawg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 20 hours ago, Bigred said: I’d say that validates his point. Apples and oranges. They don’t lack precision flying ability, they lack SA without all the data fed to them on a display (or make poor decisions as it pertains to safety of flight/general airmanship). VMFA and I are on the same page now - they need to be challenged so they learn how to maintain SA when toys go down and make good decisions without a FL/IP telling them what to do. This problem is a direct correlation to cutting air-under-ass time throughout the pipeline and letting them skate by with unchallenging/benign flying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 As many of you know, I'm into the airshow scene. Chuck Aaron retired but was amazing. Before he flew he was very focused and even tense. He said his performance margins were thin. Aaron Fitzgerald has taken over and flies a great show. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff_T Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said: As many of you know, I'm into the airshow scene. Chuck Aaron retired but was amazing. Before he flew he was very focused and even tense. He said his performance margins were thin. Aaron Fitzgerald has taken over and flies a great show. Those are crazy mfers man! It doesn't feel natural to pull over the horizon without wings lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Biff_T said: They did a lot of crazy shit before I was born. Loops in 53s, smoking in cockpits and fix to fixes without the GPS lol. All while getting their own ATIS … 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 4 hours ago, brabus said: Apples and oranges. They don’t lack precision flying ability, they lack SA without all the data fed to them on a display (or make poor decisions as it pertains to safety of flight/general airmanship). VMFA and I are on the same page now - they need to be challenged so they learn how to maintain SA when toys go down and make good decisions without a FL/IP telling them what to do. This problem is a direct correlation to cutting air-under-ass time throughout the pipeline and letting them skate by with unchallenging/benign flying. Ah, I see your point now. I’m agreement with all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeA10 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 8 hours ago, HossHarris said: All while getting their own ATIS … Formation touch and goes in the Talon, 100 foot low level in the Hawg......AND getting my own ATIS....I'm lucky to have survived. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff_T Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 It was a little harder getting ATIS in the Huey single pilot. We were so slow, it'd change several times from the time I was 7 miles out to touch down. So much ATIS. I have nightmares about it. 3 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jice Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) What’s the latest rumint from AETC about the future of T-38 Phase 3 and IFF? Heard some rumblings about a combined Fighter Bomber Fundamentals course replacing both, with an experiment running somewhere. Any first-hand experience or great insight on the board? Edited June 11, 2023 by jice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookieRookie Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 9 hours ago, jice said: What’s the latest rumint from AETC about the future of T-38 Phase 3 and IFF? Heard some rumblings about a combined Fighter Bomber Fundamentals course replacing both, with an experiment running somewhere. Any first-hand experience or great insight on the board? Yes. FBF SGTO #1 is running at CBM this summer. Until bombers go T-1s/AMF-S only and stop flying T-38s completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindsight2020 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 11Bs moving to t-1s as an end state COA wrt FBF is bad intel. But it's also moot since nobody asking that question today is going to fly the t7 in upt anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 What goes into this FBF syllabus? I assume it incorporates some IFF stuff on the admin side but also some perch BFM type stuff? Surface attack/range stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookieRookie Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 5 hours ago, hindsight2020 said: 11Bs moving to t-1s as an end state COA wrt FBF is bad intel. But it's also moot since nobody asking that question today is going to fly the t7 in upt anyways. it has nothing do with FBF. It has to do with capacity and it’s a real COA being discussed at air staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMorgan Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 it has nothing do with FBF. It has to do with capacity and it’s a real COA being discussed at air staffThe same Air Staff that decided that a red bird sim is a valid replacement for an aircraft? Let’s go full(er) retard and make a Phase 3 where the studs just watch tik tok. *Please don’t suggest this to anyone in the puzzle palace, they’ll probably run with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooter Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just once, I'd love to hear news about UPT getting more rigorous. Literally in any way 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertia17 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Pooter said: Just once, I'd love to hear news about UPT getting more rigorous. Literally in any way 1 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 The problem goes all the way back to recruitment. We aren’t getting America’s best…we are getting the best the USAF can/wants to recruit. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkbird Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 6/12/2023 at 7:50 PM, Pooter said: Just once, I'd love to hear news about UPT getting more rigorous. Literally in any way Well the news (good or bad depending on how you feel about the syllabus) is that UPT is going to something similar to the old syllabus. Should be about three checkrides with one after trans, one after nav, and one after form. Mission to top off then track select and graduation a few weeks later follow by T-1s or T-38s. So there is that. Dunno if that means it's getting more rigorous or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMorgan Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Well the news (good or bad depending on how you feel about the syllabus) is that UPT is going to something similar to the old syllabus. Should be about three checkrides with one after trans, one after nav, and one after form. Mission to top off then track select and graduation a few weeks later follow by T-1s or T-38s. So there is that. Dunno if that means it's getting more rigorous or not. Still sim only for T-1s?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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