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You're probably closer to the truth here, as a matter of fact.

Geez guys, they are getting the exact result they want. They want to divide us and make us hate each other.


As for the coronavirus stuff, I need no source that lockdowns don’t work. If they did we wouldn’t have cases spiking in areas where they were implemented. Same with mask use, if a high percentage of people are wearing masks, then why the spiking case numbers months after they were implemented? It’s a fvcking respiratory virus that is highly contagious. It’s a force of nature that we cannot control. Even Sweden is having a spike over the last month, it seems that no matter what the policy, the shit is still going to spread.


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1 hour ago, Seadogs said:

I'm talking about when 1 candidate was ahead and all counting ceased. Then when counting resumes the other candidate shoots up and overtakes the leading candidate. You won't find another example of that in history, only in corrupt African elections. 

You've look through all US presidential elections to convince yourself of this? I'm sure in 2016 there was a similar absentee ballot jump for Clinton, just that it wasn't enough for Trump to lose and wasn't spread on social media since Trump won that election. 

Btw in Wisconsin and Michigan there were similar spikes in cumulative votes for Trump when several counties that were heavily Trump were reported simultaneously, but that doesn't fit the narrative now does it?

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1 minute ago, MooseAg03 said:


Geez guys, they are getting the exact result they want. They want to divide us and make us hate each other.


As for the coronavirus stuff, I need no source that lockdowns don’t work. If they did we wouldn’t have cases spiking in areas where they were implemented. Same with mask use, if a high percentage of people are wearing masks, then why the spiking case numbers months after they were implemented? It’s a fvcking respiratory virus that is highly contagious. It’s a force of nature that we cannot control. Even Sweden is having a spike over the last month, it seems that no matter what the policy, the shit is still going to spread.


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Sure it’s going to spread, so we do nothing?

Cases are spiking in places like Utah because people gotta have “ma freedoms”. Anti-mask sentiment in much of the country is strong. It’s stupid. Masks work to reduce the spread not eliminate it. 

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You've look through all US presidential elections to convince yourself of this? I'm sure in 2016 there was a similar absentee ballot jump for Clinton, just that it wasn't enough for Trump to lose and wasn't spread on social media since Trump won that election. 
Btw in Wisconsin and Michigan there were similar spikes in cumulative votes for Trump when several counties that were heavily Trump were reported simultaneously, but that doesn't fit the narrative now does it?
Mail in doesn’t exactly equal absentee. Yes you mail in an absentee ballot but ultimately they are different.
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4 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Mail in doesn’t exactly equal absentee. Yes you mail in an absentee ballot but ultimately they are different.

Yes I know... the spike in Biden votes he is talking about after "counting stopped" is referencing a drop of 169,000 *absentee* ballots that were escorted to the Clerk at 4am.

 

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43 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said:

I need no source that lockdowns don’t work.

The research is useless and my experience trumps all sources is the height of arrogance. Facts don't care about your feelings.

45 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said:

Same with mask use, if a high percentage of people are wearing masks, then why the spiking case numbers months after they were implemented?

I'll repeat, not a silver bullet, they are spiking less than they would have without mask usage. 

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1 hour ago, Guardian said:
1 hour ago, DosXX said:
You've look through all US presidential elections to convince yourself of this? I'm sure in 2016 there was a similar absentee ballot jump for Clinton, just that it wasn't enough for Trump to lose and wasn't spread on social media since Trump won that election. 
Btw in Wisconsin and Michigan there were similar spikes in cumulative votes for Trump when several counties that were heavily Trump were reported simultaneously, but that doesn't fit the narrative now does it?

Mail in doesn’t exactly equal absentee. Yes you mail in an absentee ballot but ultimately they are different.

And how are they different? You’re voting outside of the polling area/polling time. They’re verifying your identity once they receive your ballot.

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28 minutes ago, DosXX said:

The research is useless and my experience trumps all sources is the height of arrogance. Facts don't care about your feelings.

I'll repeat, not a silver bullet, they are spiking less than they would have without mask usage. 

Ironic use of your own anecdotal knowledge second half given first half. 

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41 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Michigan and Wisconsin won't be recounted, because Trump would have to pay upfront for the cost, and he is too cheap and broke to do so.  He will probably just keep the recount money he is begging from his supporters for his campaign debts. Georgia recount costs go to the taxpayers so that will happen, and in PA you would need actual proof of voting fraud or irregularities, which his lawyers haven't been able to produce yet...so no recount yet.

I'm all for investigating fraud, but there hasn't been any proof beyond "this doesn't look right".  Regardless of proof ask yourself what agency would you truly trust to investigate these claims?  Any institution you will claim deep state or that we lib-rulz have infiltrated the deepest sanctums of law enforcement despite our natural distrust for law enforcement.  At this point you probably wouldn't trust any government agency and would only trust Project Veritas or Tim Fitton to investigate.

Plus a lot of you have forgotten 2016...it wasn't Hillary claiming voter fraud...it was....::drumroll::.....TRUMP!

Yep!  He was so bent out of shape he lost the popular vote, not only did he rant for years about the necessity electoral college (despite previously calling it "a disaster for democracy") and carry around printouts of the districts he won...he claimed the popular vote loss was due to millions of fraudulent voters and created a commission to investigate it and find all these instances of dead people voting, fraudulent votes, etc....remember Kris Kobach?  Kobach already fixed our election system...remember?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/presidential-advisory-commission-election-integrity/

If our system is so rigged and fraud is so rampant, why didn't Kobach find anything?  Why didn't we fix it then?  Why is it so hard to drum up evidence of voter fraud this time around when both democrats and republicans were counting votes, working the polls?

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15 minutes ago, drewpey said:

Michigan and Wisconsin won't be recounted, because Trump would have to pay upfront for the cost, and he is too cheap and broke to do so.  He will probably just keep the recount money he is begging from his supporters for his campaign debts. Georgia recount costs go to the taxpayers so that will happen, and in PA you would need actual proof of voting fraud or irregularities, which his lawyers haven't been able to produce yet...so no recount yet.

I'm all for investigating fraud, but there hasn't been any proof beyond "this doesn't look right".  Regardless of proof ask yourself what agency would you truly trust to investigate these claims?  Any institution you will claim deep state or that we lib-rulz have infiltrated the deepest sanctums of law enforcement despite our natural distrust for law enforcement.  At this point you probably wouldn't trust any government agency and would only trust Project Veritas or Tim Fitton to investigate.

Plus a lot of you have forgotten 2016...it wasn't Hillary claiming voter fraud...it was....::drumroll::.....TRUMP!

Yep!  He was so bent out of shape he lost the popular vote, not only did he rant for years about the necessity electoral college (despite previously calling it "a disaster for democracy") and carry around printouts of the districts he won...he claimed the popular vote loss was due to millions of fraudulent voters and created a commission to investigate it and find all these instances of dead people voting, fraudulent votes, etc....remember Kris Kobach?  Kobach already fixed our election system...remember?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/presidential-advisory-commission-election-integrity/

If our system is so rigged and fraud is so rampant, why didn't Kobach find anything?  Why didn't we fix it then?  Why is it so hard to drum up evidence of voter fraud this time around when both democrats and republicans were counting votes, working the polls?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2020/11/06/oakland-county-election-2020-race-results/6184186002/

 

Something fishy is going on. 

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11 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

Are you serious? A miniscule race for a county commissioner, where a person admitted to a data entry error, and that's fishy?

If that's fishy then please, tell me what you think is happening when DEERS is down three days a week.

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And the process worked apparently without regard to politics. A Republican city clerk supervised a vote count that wrongly gave victory to a Democrat, after which a Democratic county clerk's staff caught the error and requested a correction from the Republican city clerk, handing the win to a Republican.

Doesn't sound fishy to me.  They found an error, fixed the error.

There will always be a handful of these stories when you are counting 161 million ballots.  Random findings of human error doesn't equate to a grand conspiracy.

Somehow democrats are powerful enough to rig a presidential election, but incompetent enough to forget to steal the senate as well.

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24 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Kinda hard to believe that Biden is the most popular person of all time.
 

KVON: "I'm not a conspiracy theorist....but (insert conspiracy)"

I'm disappointed I gave him a view.  I hope he doesn't start showing up in my YouTube feed now.

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1 hour ago, SurelySerious said:

Ironic use of your own anecdotal knowledge second half given first half. 

How exactly is that anecdotal? Do you really think I would lack the self awareness to say that without having research to back that up after just criticizing it? 

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7 hours ago, DosXX said:

How exactly is that anecdotal? Do you really think I would lack the self awareness to say that without having research to back that up after just criticizing it? 

12 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

Yes. 

 

His answer is valid based on the fact that many people on the side of common sense feel that the right (the side pushing the same conspiracy theories Trump pushed after losing the popular vote in 2016) lacks the self awareness to realize they're being played by a president desperate to cling to power and social media news sources because the real journalists out there are just #fakenews.  

They think you lack self awareness, and the rest of the world (authoritarian regimes excluded [I say that because they're basically the only ones to have yet to offer congratulations.  Good company...]) thinks they lack self awareness.

The real reason the rest of the GOP isn't telling the president to stop crying already is because of the run-offs in GA in January.  I'd put money on the thought that if the GOP had won those two races outright, you'd have the rest of the GOP congratulating the Biden camp already.

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2 minutes ago, slackline said:

 

His answer is valid based on the fact that many people on the side of common sense feel that the right (the side pushing the same conspiracy theories Trump pushed after losing the popular vote in 2016) lacks the self awareness to realize they're being played by a president desperate to cling to power and social media news sources because the real journalists out there are just #fakenews.  

They think you lack self awareness, and the rest of the world (authoritarian regimes excluded [I say that because they're basically the only ones to have yet to offer congratulations.  Good company...]) thinks they lack self awareness.

The real reason the rest of the GOP isn't telling the president to stop crying already is because of the run-offs in GA in January.  I'd put money on the thought that if the GOP had won those two races outright, you'd have the rest of the GOP congratulating the Biden camp already.

His answer was provided anecdotally after he criticized someone of the same, quit being dramatic one of science and facts. Maybe he should have provided a controlled experiment where this one spreads differently amongst humans with masks than without instead of being so self assuredly arrogant about his knowledge. 

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3 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

His answer was provided anecdotally after he criticized someone of the same, quit being dramatic one of science and facts. Maybe he should have provided a controlled experiment where this one spreads differently amongst humans with masks than without instead of being so self assuredly arrogant about his knowledge. 

Not disagreeing with you.  We all get carried away sometimes in what, to our perception in the moment, feels like the other side is ignoring the countless examples provided previously.  

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