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7 hours ago, VMFA187 said:

I’m not proposing that, but maybe only those who actually pay taxes, or conduct a public service get a say in “our” future. Think Starship Troopers.

Starship Troopers had a lot of compelling ideas packaged in that cheezy-but-entertaining veneer.

I, for one, vote we adopt using "Sir" regardless of gender.

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1 hour ago, VMFA187 said:

This may be terrible, but it is what it is. The average American either A) Does not have the time to differentiate between the bullshit and make informed decisions or B) Is too lazy to take the time to analyze and think critically about the information they are presented with which almost never is honest and unbiased.

Or maybe the average person no longer has that capacity which is why voting was restricted to property owners in the past, people who had a legit stake.

I’m not proposing that, but maybe only those who actually pay taxes, or conduct a public service get a say in “our” future. Think Starship Troopers.

Your last point isn’t too far off from what our country was designed to be. We are a constitutional republic, not a democracy after all. But never mind all that, you’re a racist if you support IDs to vote or don’t want deadbeat prisoners voting. 

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13 hours ago, VMFA187 said:

This may be terrible, but it is what it is. The average American either A) Does not have the time to differentiate between the bullshit and make informed decisions or B) Is too lazy to take the time to analyze and think critically about the information they are presented with which almost never is honest and unbiased.

Or maybe the average person no longer has that capacity which is why voting was restricted to property owners in the past, people who had a legit stake.

I’m not proposing that, but maybe only those who actually pay taxes, or conduct a public service get a say in “our” future. Think Starship Troopers.

During the last election cycle, something like 60% of Californians were unhappy with how their state was being run but Newsome wins reelection by a 20 point margin. You can't fix stupid. 

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39 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

Biden is Catholic lol, that’s about how my white ass would look rolling up to Ebenezer Baptist in the middle of a service too 😅

In nomeni patri et fili et spiritus sancti, amen ✝️🇮🇪🇮🇹

Are there a lot of black Catholic churches in Delaware? 

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1 hour ago, nsplayr said:

Biden is Catholic lol, that’s about how my white ass would look rolling up to Ebenezer Baptist in the middle of a service too 😅

In nomeni patri et fili et spiritus sancti, amen ✝️🇮🇪🇮🇹

They teach dishonesty in Catholicism? Asking for a friend....

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21 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Is your friend named George/Anthony Santos/Devolder by any chance?

Kind of too that point though.... would it be worth while to make a law that required political parties with more than x amount in donations fund background checks into candidates and make some of that information public record. Would have prevented Santos for sure. 

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12 minutes ago, dream big said:

Biden is so Catholic that the church refuses to offer him communion due to his acquiescent views on Abortion. 

Some bishops have said that is their policy in their dioceses. Biden receives communion at least weekly in DC and/or Delaware AFAIK and probably did so from the Pope himself in 2021.

Some bishops truly are the uptight, fussy, clerical little princes of their territories and enact some truly anti-catholic policies IMHO. Not very good pastors if that’s a policy hill you’re willing to die on.

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19 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

Some bishops have said that is their policy in their dioceses. Biden receives communion at least weekly in DC and/or Delaware AFAIK and probably did so from the Pope himself in 2021.

Some bishops truly are the uptight, fussy, clerical little princes of their territories and enact some truly anti-catholic policies IMHO. Not very good pastors if that’s a policy hill you’re willing to die on.

I love when people try to redefine Catholicism in a way that suits their political beliefs. The Catholic Church is structured in a very clear manner, and the accepted views of the church are equally clear. You either believe them or you don't, but you don't get to pretend that you're part of the club if you're not willing to abide by the Constitution and bylaws.

It's one thing to claim to be Christian when you don't have mainstream Christian beliefs. But Catholicism is a very specific type of Christianity

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1 hour ago, Lord Ratner said:

I love when people try to redefine Catholicism in a way that suits their political beliefs. The Catholic Church is structured in a very clear manner, and the accepted views of the church are equally clear. You either believe them or you don't, but you don't get to pretend that you're part of the club if you're not willing to abide by the Constitution and bylaws.

It's one thing to claim to be Christian when you don't have mainstream Christian beliefs. But Catholicism is a very specific type of Christianity

Are you Catholic or speculating (or both?) The rules, beliefs and norms of the Church vary widely across the world and are very, very much debated and reinterpreted all the time! It’s absolutely not an unchanging set of very clear beliefs and it never, never has been since the time of Jesus and the apostles themselves.

When bishops disagree on a big issue it all becomes a bit unclear, wouldn’t you say? They’re all bishops, who is right? When bishops disagree with the Pope, it reflects the diversity of opinion in a global and universal church! That’s the most generous interpretation.

The less generous interpretation is that random activist bishops should feel free to STFU unless they are making a ruling for a resident of their particular diocese AND they’re willing to admit they’re openly defying the Pope because of how important the issue is.

Do those bishops deny communion to murders in prison? To those who don’t help the poor? To those who haven’t followed any other number of God’s commandments and Jesus’ teachings?

My opinion as a lay Catholic is that communion is a sacrament between God and the person receiving it, and whether it’s “valid” and sanctifying or not is between God and that person, not the minister who happens to be handing out the host.

By all means, preach that abortion is a sin, that is the teaching of the Church. But to deny communion over one particular sin and really not for any other is a much bigger issue actually.

The Pope is on the record as saying Biden should continue receiving communion and is a “good Catholic.” Last time I checked, he’s in charge of the Church. Case open and shut for me at least.

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7 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Some bishops have said that is their policy in their dioceses. Biden receives communion at least weekly in DC and/or Delaware AFAIK and probably did so from the Pope himself in 2021.

Some bishops truly are the uptight, fussy, clerical little princes of their territories and enact some truly anti-catholic policies IMHO. Not very good pastors if that’s a policy hill you’re willing to die on.

I never said I agreed with it, as a Catholic I believe the church should accept you no matter how shitty of a person you are in real life; I just find it comical that’s all!

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On 1/19/2023 at 10:00 AM, GrndPndr said:

Okay, so I realize this isn't the most important thing ever, but you may find amusement with this.  Perhaps, we can start to call him "Mr. Natural?"

 

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8 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

100% a sign of dementia. It's sad, but also a bit horrifying. I guess it didn't end horribly when Regan was in office, so I doubt it will this time either.

Biden has apparently had dementia since he started his career as a politician.  Among other gems coming out of the current President's mouth, Regan never claimed to be arrested visiting Nelson Mandela.  Regan didn't lie consistently about his life experiences.  Regan didn't have a son named Hunter smoking crack, making porn and using the name Regan to make business deals.  The Bidens are scum.  

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2 hours ago, Biff_T said:

Biden has apparently had dementia since he started his career as a politician.  Among other gems coming out of the current President's mouth, Regan never claimed to be arrested visiting Nelson Mandela.  Regan didn't lie consistently about his life experiences.  Regan didn't have a son named Hunter smoking crack, making porn and using the name Regan to make business deals.  The Bidens are scum.  

Both can be true (and are).

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On 1/19/2023 at 9:04 PM, nsplayr said:

Are you Catholic or speculating (or both?) The rules, beliefs and norms of the Church vary widely across the world and are very, very much debated and reinterpreted all the time! It’s absolutely not an unchanging set of very clear beliefs and it never, never has been since the time of Jesus and the apostles themselves.

When bishops disagree on a big issue it all becomes a bit unclear, wouldn’t you say? They’re all bishops, who is right? When bishops disagree with the Pope, it reflects the diversity of opinion in a global and universal church! That’s the most generous interpretation.

The less generous interpretation is that random activist bishops should feel free to STFU unless they are making a ruling for a resident of their particular diocese AND they’re willing to admit they’re openly defying the Pope because of how important the issue is.

Do those bishops deny communion to murders in prison? To those who don’t help the poor? To those who haven’t followed any other number of God’s commandments and Jesus’ teachings?

My opinion as a lay Catholic is that communion is a sacrament between God and the person receiving it, and whether it’s “valid” and sanctifying or not is between God and that person, not the minister who happens to be handing out the host.

By all means, preach that abortion is a sin, that is the teaching of the Church. But to deny communion over one particular sin and really not for any other is a much bigger issue actually.

The Pope is on the record as saying Biden should continue receiving communion and is a “good Catholic.” Last time I checked, he’s in charge of the Church. Case open and shut for me at least.

This post really shines the spotlight on why I am not a follower of religion, beginning with your first paragraph and continuing throughout your post.  Holy smokes, talk about anything goes, interpret whatever you want, believe whatever you want, even in a religious structure as ridiculously controlling as Catholicism.  Not a personal attack on you and I don't have anything against believers, and I have millions of other reasons for not being a believer, but man, when someone can post something like that about Catholicism...am I the only one here that can see that the idea of saying you are a follower of a faith but can believe whatever you want is kind of a farce?

Not trying to turn this into a religious thread derail, but instead of all of that up there, why don't humans just say "I don't know" when it comes to answering the question of what happens after death.

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