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Anyone taking bets on how long Biden will last before Harris takes over if they win?

He’ll serve 12 months; then have the “courage” to step down while his family deals with his newly diagnosed cognitive decline issues. Or they keep his body at the helm, and try and run the country behind the scenes like Cheney did...Either scenario, the most liberal US Senator will be POTUS sooner, rather than never.
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16 hours ago, Guardian said:


Synopsis?


I just watched the unedited 60 minutes after watching the actual 60 minutes. Holy crap. What a hit piece 60 minutes did. Man. Amazing liberal editing job. They even had to know the full video was out and they still went out and published their edited junk.

And wow. Biden and K just seething with bold face lies. Never seen anything like it. It was bold in your face flat out lying. With evidence to the contrary already out in public. No fact checking needed. It was as if they were asked what is the most untrue ridiculous way you can answer this. And if K didn’t know the answer, she just awkwardly laughed. Which is her equivalent to Biden’s “come on man”. I’ve never been more sure of who I was voting for then after seeing those two liars tonight.

 

15 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

I wonder if this is one of those things where I'd watch it and come to a completely different interpretation.

It basically lays out all the events that unfolded just prior to and after the 2016 election.  Honestly, I've never been able to put the Steele Dossier, "Russia Gate", General Flynn, Carter Page, Devin Nunes issues into a coherent story.

It's a series of interviews from Trump admin and transition team, DOJ, DIA, CIA, and FBI whistleblowers.

The video presents the entire chain of events and backstories in a way that gives you the nearly complete picture of what happened. Reading the description, I thought it might be a selectively edited and highly spun right-wing propaganda video. Of course, there is a bias, but it seems to be supported by fact after fact after fact. Everything makes sense.

You may watch it and come to a different conclusion, but it'll definitely give you info you didn't have before and make you think little harder about what's going on. If you do find fault in it, I'd be interested to hear it in case I'm being naive.

 

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6 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

Anyone taking bets on how long Biden will last before Harris takes over if they win?

There is something going on this week. The media is dialing back rhetoric a little, Biden and Harris aren't campaigning like they should be.

This laptop is un-fucking-believable. Aside from all the Hunter Biden porn on the Gtv.org website, it is said there are tens of thousands of incriminating texts and emails implicating Joe. They are very slowly being released. The Dems are over a barrel. It is starting to seem like they know they have to lose this round. If they don't lose, the revelations will destroy the Presidency and the Party.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/forget_the_hunter_biden_sex_tapes_the_real_news_is_much_bigger_than_that.html

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12 minutes ago, ThreeHoler said:

That story sure seems legit...


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I know, it's not top shelf. But where do you go when nothing is legit? I think we can ignore the details and the unsubstantiated inferences. But there is basic info.

The laptop exists, and the people who have seen it said it contains the Hunter Biden porn/illegal activities as well as compromising financial/corruption information about Joe.

If Chinese-dissident billionaire Guo and Bannon have the contents and release proof of the Hunter claims, it stands to reason that incriminating financial information also exists. If it exists, it is most certainly being used as leverage behind the scenes. Once its out there, it's no longer useful.

 

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I know, it's not top shelf. But where do you go when nothing is legit? I think we can ignore the details and the unsubstantiated inferences. But there is basic info.
The laptop exists, and the people who have seen it said it contains the Hunter Biden porn/illegal activities as well as compromising financial/corruption information about Joe.
If Chinese-dissident billionaire Guo and Bannon have the contents and release proof of the Hunter claims, it stands to reason that incriminating financial information also exists. If it exists, it is most certainly being used as leverage behind the scenes. Once its out there, it's no longer useful.
 

So I'm just curious, what happens when the election comes and goes and no one ever substantiates any of this stuff? Not saying that will happen, but I think we can all agree this, or any administration in recent history isn't necessarily trustworthy. We're a week out, and everyone with all this proof, except for the super reputable sources quoted by torqued, are mum.

And who knows, maybe they're going to drop all these bombshells. At this point, nothing is surprising...

What are all of you die-hard Trumpeters going to say? Wait, I know, you'll say #fakenews...


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20 hours ago, Guardian said:

I just watched the unedited 60 minutes after watching the actual 60 minutes. Holy crap. What a hit piece 60 minutes did. Man. Amazing liberal editing job. They even had to know the full video was out and they still went out and published their edited junk.

And wow. Biden and K just seething with bold face lies. Never seen anything like it. It was bold in your face flat out lying. With evidence to the contrary already out in public. No fact checking needed. It was as if they were asked what is the most untrue ridiculous way you can answer this. And if K didn’t know the answer, she just awkwardly laughed. Which is her equivalent to Biden’s “come on man”. I’ve never been more sure of who I was voting for then after seeing those two liars tonight.

Let me get this straight.  You're turned off by people lying to your face and simultaneously you're sure that your vote is going to a person who, if they played a character in a Hollywood movie meant to be a pathological liar, you'd complain that their rendition was too cartoonish and over-the-top?  Welp, I guess you've got that all sewn up.

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21 hours ago, Guardian said:


Synopsis?


I just watched the unedited 60 minutes after watching the actual 60 minutes. Holy crap. What a hit piece 60 minutes did. Man. Amazing liberal editing job. They even had to know the full video was out and they still went out and published their edited junk.

And wow. Biden and K just seething with bold face lies. Never seen anything like it. It was bold in your face flat out lying. With evidence to the contrary already out in public. No fact checking needed. It was as if they were asked what is the most untrue ridiculous way you can answer this. And if K didn’t know the answer, she just awkwardly laughed. Which is her equivalent to Biden’s “come on man”. I’ve never been more sure of who I was voting for then after seeing those two liars tonight.

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2 hours ago, slackline said:


So I'm just curious, what happens when the election comes and goes and no one ever substantiates any of this stuff? Not saying that will happen, but I think we can all agree this, or any administration in recent history isn't necessarily trustworthy. We're a week out, and everyone with all this proof, except for the super reputable sources quoted by torqued, are mum.

And who knows, maybe they're going to drop all these bombshells. At this point, nothing is surprising...

What are all of you die-hard Trumpeters going to say? Wait, I know, you'll say #fakenews...


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Fuck that, if they don't put it out, it doesn't exist.

 

So far the only interesting part of the story is the dude who is publicly claiming that Joe Biden was aware and a part of Hunter's money-making schemes. That should be pursued. The sexting and other shit is just noise. There's no shortage of screwed up politicians' kids.

 

However I personally think it stretches the imagination to claim that Joe didn't know his kid was using his name and position for personal gain. If there was ever an argument that Joe wasn't fully a swamp creature, and I don't think there was, it should be laid to rest.

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2 hours ago, slackline said:

So I'm just curious, what happens when the election comes and goes and no one ever substantiates any of this stuff? Not saying that will happen, but I think we can all agree this, or any administration in recent history isn't necessarily trustworthy. We're a week out, and everyone with all this proof, except for the super reputable sources quoted by torqued, are mum.

And who knows, maybe they're going to drop all these bombshells. At this point, nothing is surprising...

What are all of you die-hard Trumpeters going to say? Wait, I know, you'll say #fakenews...

Ever played poker? If you're a politician and you're sitting on a trove of information detrimental to your opponents, it can be of tremendous value. Once it has been made public, it no longer has value.

My point is: the laptop is real, and it does contain information. Everyone wants to know everything that's on it. I think Trump and his team know how much they need to allude to this information to get public interest, how much proof they need to provide to eek out a win, and how much they can use against their opponents for the next 4 years.

Perhaps, it's a bluff, perhaps it's not. Don't expect to get any more proof than is necessary to lock up the election.

 

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46 minutes ago, torqued said:

Ever played poker? If you're a politician and you're sitting on a trove of information detrimental to your opponents, it can be of tremendous value. Once it has been made public, it no longer has value.

My point is: the laptop is real, and it does contain information. Everyone wants to know everything that's on it. I think Trump and his team know how much they need to allude to this information to get public interest, how much proof they need to provide to eek out a win, and how much they can use against their opponents for the next 4 years.

Perhaps, it's a bluff, perhaps it's not. Don't expect to get any more proof than is necessary to lock up the election.

 

Do you honestly think there is ANYONE left in this country who hasn't had their mind made up and then some?  Trump could shoot someone in the street and his base wouldn't care.  Biden could be found feeding pigeons in Central Park not knowing who he is and his base wouldn't care at this point.  

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Yes. You’re asking if there is one person out of 330 million people that hasn’t made their mind up? The answer is yes.

I would agree with that assessment, but here’s the better question: do you honestly think those that are still undecided will be swayed by what looks like a blatant attempt to sling mud and is seen as being questionable?

I say it looks like an attempt to sling mud because with all of this “rock solid evidence” there sure is a whole lot of nothing being said by the people that matter. As of yesterday, even Trump is being quiet about it. I think they know it won’t sway anyone. Covid is what Trump and Biden are discussing... Oddly enough, Trump says his plan (anyone seen it?) will create a booming economy, and Covid is basically beat. If that’s not strictly talking to your base, I don’t know what is...


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14 minutes ago, slackline said:


I would agree with that assessment, but here’s the better question: do you honestly think those that are still undecided will be swayed by what looks like a blatant attempt to sling mud and is seen as being questionable?

I say it looks like an attempt to sling mud because with all of this “rock solid evidence” there sure is a whole lot of nothing being said by the people that matter. As of yesterday, even Trump is being quiet about it. I think they know it won’t sway anyone. Covid is what Trump and Biden are discussing... Oddly enough, Trump says his plan (anyone seen it?) will create a booming economy, and Covid is basically beat. If that’s not strictly talking to your base, I don’t know what is...


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No one is talking about it because the media is complicit in the plan to destroy this country from the left.  Where have you been the last 5-6 years? If this was Don Jr or Eric with the same degree of evidence it would be on 24/7 coverage, tell me I am wrong?

I do agree that this won’t sway many undecided voters.  The question is how many will enthusiastically get off their behind and vote for their candidate.  Look at the enthusiasm at their rallies, and I think you’ll get your answer.
 

Side note: the economy was booming under Trump prior to China infecting then world with Covid...and all things considered the economy is making a strong rebound (unless you live in states like Michigan or New York.) Trump has already proven he can make the right decisions for a strong economy amongst other things.  

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/27/biden-becoming-president-not-make-everything-suddenly-normal-column/6042756002/

Screw both Trump and Biden. It’s up to us as individuals to stop treating the other side as if they were some kind of fully-functioning mentally challenged person simply because we disagree with their ideologies...


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No one is talking about it because the media is complicit in the plan to destroy this country from the left.  Where have you been the last 5-6 years? If this was Don Jr or Eric with the same degree of evidence it would be on 24/7 coverage, tell me I am wrong?
I do agree that this won’t sway many undecided voters.  The question is how many will enthusiastically get off their behind and vote for their candidate.  Look at the enthusiasm at their rallies, and I think you’ll get your answer.
 
Side note: the economy was booming under Trump prior to China infecting then world with Covid...and all things considered the economy is making a strong rebound (unless you live in states like Michigan or New York.) Trump has already proven he can make the right decisions for a strong economy amongst other things.  

Rallies aren’t a good example my friend. The fanatics are the ones that go to Trump rallies, so that’s not anymore enthusiasm than normal.

I’ll eat crow if this comes out and is all verified. Like I said before, it wouldn’t surprise me, but everyone acting like Trump et al is biding his time to release these bombshells is ignoring the fact that Trump has never been able to sit patiently and wait. Don’t act like he listens to his people either because that isn’t true.

Everyone claiming some vast media conspiracy sounds just a little tin foil hat, but whatever. Could all be very true. The counterpoints to those arguments have been made, I can’t make you believe them.

As for the economy, Look at the numbers, economy was basically a wash between the questions of who did it better, and it is incredibly disingenuous of Trump to claim the greatest economy in our history. Clinton, Reagan and Johnson’s were better. Republicans/conservatives (myself included in a distant past) like to claim trickle down economics when things don’t go their way, but ignore it when they look good. By that logic, Obama turned the economy around after the recession and Trump continued to benefit from the Obama admin’s actions. I’m not saying that is, in fact, what happened, just pointing out more hypocrisy.

Also, to say we’re on a trend towards economic recovery is ridiculous. Who’s doing better? Middle class? Nope, the poor? Nope. The rich? Yep, they’ve made a killing during the pandemic, and are continuing to do so. All while there are hundreds of thousands of households freaking out for when eviction moratoriums end. Let’s not ignore the 2nd and 3rd order effects of all the poor communities that didn’t have the money to continue college from home during quarantine, and how many generations that will take to recover. To say otherwise, would seem to intentionally ignore the facts.

So, if your measuring stick is the rich, ok, yep, they’re better than ever...

Sorry if that is disjointed. I’m in a rush...


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